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    Default 2004 corolla engine overhauling

    i have toyota corolla 2004 model......my car is not starting in the morning, , , and the mechanic saying that its engine needs overhauling , now i am thinking to get it overhauling from toyota faisalabad motors, , , i want to know how much will it cost and is it worthy to get it overhauled from toyota motors,, anyone with good suggestion , with thanks regards
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    Zaka bhai,
    here is a tough task for you

    first go run and read behind your car
    is it xli/GLI or Altis or 2.0D
    then post back on Pakwheels.
    Life is short and very unpredictable just like a Quarter mile .....

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    Pls., consult with different mechanics and right us the following details.

    Mileage on your car?
    Engine type Altis/Xli,Gli/2.0D?
    any history that might have brought trouble with your starting like,wrong fuel or engine got overheated etc etc?
    we should be proud of safe driving.

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    read my signature line and come back to forum with details. also please post is car totally dead parked or is she troubling / laboring to start in the morning only and rest of the day she start & run fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imran2d View Post
    Pls., consult with different mechanics and right us the following details.

    Mileage on your car?
    Engine type Altis/Xli,Gli/2.0D?
    any history that might have brought trouble with your starting like,wrong fuel or engine got overheated etc etc?

    thank u for your reply, its corolla 2.0D, and no overheat issue , and no wrong fuel issue...its just having problem in morning , i cant start it, it takes few sulf starters but does not start, , i keep on trying but no response, some mechanic said it needs tapet settings but i got that but still same issue, now i am thinking of getting it overhaul i need an estimation of charges from toyota, thank you brother

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    Quote Originally Posted by capsat View Post
    read my signature line and come back to forum with details. also please post is car totally dead parked or is she troubling / laboring to start in the morning only and rest of the day she start & run fine.
    brother it has been having issues to start in morning, and when once its started it jusr gets half sulf to start ,,,throughout the day it has no issues, and sometime it needs push start its milage is 240000km and its 2004 model and its corolla 2d,,,,any advice much appriciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by hash4u View Post
    Zaka bhai,
    here is a tough task for you

    first go run and read behind your car
    is it xli/GLI or Altis or 2.0D
    then post back on Pakwheels.
    its corolla 2D sir, it has been having trouble in starting in morning, the rest of the day it starts and works fine, only its like jammed i have to push start it, its kilometer is 240000km,,,all other things are working fine,

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    U just faced issue in starting when cold and ur mechanic advised you to overhaul it ???

    Diesel cars need a bit more effort to start in in winter mornings but that can be avoided.

    -check your battery is in good condition.
    -check that starter is powerful enough to spin the motor fast.
    -gasket is not leaked.

    If all mentioned above are okay then check heat plugs physically - remove the plugs, power it with battery - tip should glow red. Also check that relay is working properly.

    It is also better to use diesel fuel treatment.

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    before condemning the engine - check that the glow (heater) plugs are good and working, if they dont work your engine wont start, you should also check for air leakage into the fuel lines, if they suck air your engine wont start as the pump needs a solid stream of fuel to inject through the nozzles.

    My doubt is on the glow plugs unless your engine is dead as a nail and it cannot create any sort of compression. Which I doubt at 240,000 kms which is nothing for a diesel.
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    Only hard starting in the morning makes u feel that engine needs rebuild? 2.0D runs 300k+ kms without rebuilds if treated properly.

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    ap ka mechanic gadha hai see there are forum members who are telling you facts. glow plugs act as sparkplug in the diesel engine. means k ap ki car ka ignition system weak hai battery aur glow plugs check karyeay engine FIT hai

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    @Zaka,
    Just do what Xulfiqar bhai suggested you to do.... Don't waste your hard earned money on the will of mechanics. As per the symptoms, engine seams OK
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    only car is not starting in the morning and mechanic is asking for engine overhaul......insane.....change ur mechanic immediately....check glow plug........
    one more thing ..... what do u do for the maintenance of ur car ????? during day time its half self start means fuel line is okie....only cold starting means glow plugs are not working up to the mark.....

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    Motion Momentum Guru Xulfiqar is Moulana diesel - Zaka goahead one step at a time as Xulfiqar has said you will enjoy the diesel car more if you have patience with forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsadGhumman View Post
    @Zaka,
    Just do what Xulfiqar bhai suggested you to do.... Don't waste your hard earned money on the will of mechanics. As per the symptoms, engine seams OK
    thank you all for your valuable advice, i really appriciate all of you, alright i will get the ignition plugs check tomorrow, and change the oil and battery and all stuff i hope this will save the money ,as i just today called toyota and they said tapet adjustment might be needed , i hope its a minor issue, thank u all for the help,,,May GOD bless you all,

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    thank you sir, i will get this checked tomorrow or in couple of days and let you know ,,thank you once again

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    yes the fuel line is all ok, only when i try to start it takes some rounds but it does not work that much better alright i will check out the glow system your telling me, is it the heaters which are required to preheat the engine right??? i will surely get them checked tomorrow,,,thank u once again

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    yes sure i will get the heaters checked tomorrow and see if any improvement there

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    valve tappet adjustment is expensive business on this engine as shims are required to be replaced on the lifters to achieve correct thickness, In toyota books there is a tool required to press the lifter and pull out the shim with a set of thin pliers (DO NOT USE A MAGNET EVER), using a magnet will magnetise the metal and it will attract metallic particles and wear out the lifter bores.

    anyway - now I'll tell you how I did it. I measure all valve clearances and write them down, then I write what needs to be achieved, Now I remove the camshaft, some shims are swapped around for correct clearances and some need to be bought from Toyota.

    While at it and if the engine was using some engine oil I change the valve seals, I pull out the lifters with a suction cup and use my valve depresser tool and mount it on the head and remove the valve springs of cyl1 and cyl4 - with engine on TDC both pistons for 1 and 4 are on top and the valves rest on the face of the pistons so they cannot fall into the cylinder. I put in new valve seals with the help of a falooda straw (to prevent the valve collet grooves tearing the seals) and a dab of sealant on their base edge.

    They will slide over the straw, passing the collet grooves and snap into the valve guide, install springs, covers and collets. Both 1 and 4 done, rotate the the crank 180 degrees to do cyl 2 and 3 the same way.

    Valve seal job and valve clearance job done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    valve tappet adjustment is expensive business on this engine as shims are required to be replaced on the lifters to achieve correct thickness, In toyota books there is a tool required to press the lifter and pull out the shim with a set of thin pliers (DO NOT USE A MAGNET EVER), using a magnet will magnetise the metal and it will attract metallic particles and wear out the lifter bores.

    anyway - now I'll tell you how I did it. I measure all valve clearances and write them down, then I write what needs to be achieved, Now I remove the camshaft, some shims are swapped around for correct clearances and some need to be bought from Toyota.

    While at it and if the engine was using some engine oil I change the valve seals, I pull out the lifters with a suction cup and use my valve depresser tool and mount it on the head and remove the valve springs of cyl1 and cyl4 - with engine on TDC both pistons for 1 and 4 are on top and the valves rest on the face of the pistons so they cannot fall into the cylinder. I put in new valve seals with the help of a falooda straw (to prevent the valve collet grooves tearing the seals) and a dab of sealant on their base edge.

    They will slide over the straw, passing the collet grooves and snap into the valve guide, install springs, covers and collets. Both 1 and 4 done, rotate the the crank 180 degrees to do cyl 2 and 3 the same way.

    Valve seal job and valve clearance job done.
    Nice and hard work, But Mr.Xulfiqar pls., tell us that how to check the engine whether it needs tappet adjustment or not, or is there any maintenace schedule related to mileage?
    we should be proud of safe driving.

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