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    Default Query about Security system and Immobiliser.

    Salam PWers!
    As we all have noticed recently that there has been a considerable increase in the theft of Corolla. In the past past 3 weeks, I have come across at least 7-8 cases of Corolla being stolen mostly from inside the house. My taya lost his brand new Altis outside his house in F-11 ISB.
    These incidents have compelled me to look for a rather durable and robust security system for my cars.
    Back in 1998, my father had this Suzuki Margalla which had 3 buttons placed conveniently at different locations in the car.
    After inserting the key in the ignition, these three buttons were needed to be pressed in a particular combination for the car to start.
    Now i am looking to install such a system in my car but with a lot more robustness. Therefore, i will appreciate it if experts here can pool in some suggestions in this thread to make such a system. At the end of the discussion, i expect that we might come up with durable system which will be immune to hot wiring the ignition.
    And how exactly does an immobiliser work?

    Regards.

    Bumper Sticker: "I feed off other people's rage, so drive carefully :-)."

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    A good quality taiwani security systems are available lot better than chinese, contact Mughal Autos montgamry road & a guy named Ayub (03008020284) he can guide you for this.
    There's no car like Mercedes-Benz.

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    No idea about the security systems, but since i am looking to buy a NEW COROLLA , therefore a decision at the end of the discussion is interesting for me 2

    PW members help is requested

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    Immobilizer is very safe, but i guess it cannot be installed afterwards. Just to summarize it require ECU programmed according to the original coded key in the ignition, otherwise car cannot start.

    Baleno, Liana, Swift, Civic comes with pre-installed Immobilizer in Pakistan. Never heard anyone getting it installed in Pakistani Corolla.

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    there is a security system available for corolla, which require driver's thumb impression to start the car. Its good in its own way but do not involve cars ECU.

    Quote Originally Posted by asimm76 View Post
    No idea about the security systems, but since i am looking to buy a NEW COROLLA , therefore a decision at the end of the discussion is interesting for me 2

    PW members help is requested

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzahid View Post
    there is a security system available for corolla, which require driver's thumb impression to start the car. Its good in its own way but do not involve cars ECU.
    havent heard of such system... if its there , details requested, so that PW members can discuss it

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    @poster

    Immobilizer is quite safe. Its key has a transponder, when a key is inserted in the ignition, an antenna of immobilizer system asks the key for the code, when the correct key is inserted it will send the code which the ECU compares with the programmed code. If this code is correct, the ECU will allow the fuel pump and other system to work, if it is not it will not allow and car will not start.

    You can see that without the proper key with transponder and key it is not possible to start the car. May be only some hightech method can be used to start.

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    the aftermarket security systems, no matter they have thumb print authentication or rfid tags, at the end of the day they cut the ignition with a simple relay, bypass this relay and you are good to go.
    its all about power to weight ratio...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghuncha View Post
    the aftermarket security systems, no matter they have thumb print authentication or rfid tags, at the end of the day they cut the ignition with a simple relay, bypass this relay and you are good to go.
    REALLY??? is that soo easy??? so, then, what should COROLLA users doo

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    corolla owners should never take their sight off their ride when they park em or should park em at secure places ...thats the only safety precaution that matters, coz these aftermarket security systems,trackers,handle locking bar thingys etc are just like smooth speed bumps which you can go through without the need of hitting the brakes , for ur friendly <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:AllowPNG/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:TrackMoves/> <w:TrackFormatting/> <wunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <waveIfXMLInvalid>false</waveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <woNotPromoteQF/> <w:LidThemeOther>EN-US</w:LidThemeOther> <w:LidThemeAsian>X-NONE</w:LidThemeAsian> <w:LidThemeComplexScript>X-NONE</w:LidThemeComplexScript> <w:Compatibility> 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    corolla owners should never take their sight off their ride when they park em or should park em at secure places ...thats the only safety precaution that matters, coz these aftermarket security systems,trackers,handle locking bar thingys etc are just like smooth speed bumps which you can go through without the need of hitting the brakes , for ur friendly <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:AllowPNG/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:TrackMoves/> <w:TrackFormatting/> <wunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <waveIfXMLInvalid>false</waveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <woNotPromoteQF/> <w:LidThemeOther>EN-US</w:LidThemeOther> <w:LidThemeAsian>X-NONE</w:LidThemeAsian> <w:LidThemeComplexScript>X-NONE</w:LidThemeComplexScript> <w:Compatibility> 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    Come on PW members, corolla owners too deserve some sleep... we need to find the best TRACKING/SECURITY LOCK/ANY SECURE DEVISE

    I know, nothing is 100% secured, but still, we need to lock our things and take safety precautions

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    I am worried about cars getting stolen from garage by cutting the kunda.
    It has happened with me once but with help of police bike was located in 24hrs. .

    But what to do now since all these incidents happen around 3 to 4 am.


    Every lock is just a time buying system.


    Well no one steals swift and liana.
    But what about civic 2008+ is there any case of it getting stolen .
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    Install SteelMate hand-free car security system, its lot saver and more convenient.

    the car engine can only be started if the transmitter is detected inside the car, and when the driver,s side door is opened with engine running the system will activate the anti-hijack function AUTOMATICALLY when transmitter is not detected. and engine will stop running in 3-4 min.
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    when i was installing after market security system in my car, the installer told me that you just need to pullout one fuse installed in the system and car will operate as it never had system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irfansiddique View Post
    when i was installing after market security system in my car, the installer told me that you just need to pullout one fuse installed in the system and car will operate as it never had system.
    Ohhh... is that so easy? then why did u install it?

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    Yes it is almost that easy to disengage/disable alarm systems installed after market. That's the reason I did not install it in my altis , got it insured and rest leave it on Allah. The alarm installed is just a minutes deterrence nothing more than that , and your wiring is cut plus warranty gets void.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salash View Post
    Yes it is almost that easy to disengage/disable alarm systems installed after market. That's the reason I did not install it in my altis , got it insured and rest leave it on Allah. The alarm installed is just a minutes deterrence nothing more than that , and your wiring is cut plus warranty gets void.
    First of all i agree to leave it on ALLAH and recite AYAT-UL-QURSI.

    Agreed to go for TAKAFUL (islamic insurance), but still if u lose your altis in the first year then u lose about 2.5 to 3.0 lakh (10% DEPRECIATION + REGISTRATION ETC )

    There must be some good GADGET (tracker or security system) we should install.

    Note : We are bound to get the PROFIT OR LOSS that is written in our faith, but still we need to put put our minds on avoiding loss

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    Quote Originally Posted by CastaAuto View Post
    Install SteelMate hand-free car security system, its lot saver and more convenient.

    the car engine can only be started if the transmitter is detected inside the car, and when the driver,s side door is opened with engine running the system will activate the anti-hijack function AUTOMATICALLY when transmitter is not detected. and engine will stop running in 3-4 min.
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    How much does this system cost??? and does it has the wireless ignition system in it??
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    i was also looking for this kind of thread.
    i experienced car getting stolen as it happened with me
    thats why got civic 04 instead of corolla but still worried as hell parking it anywhere,can i get immobiliser in civic 04?
    what should i do for its security,insurance is good idea but they will apply 70% depreciation being a 7 year old car

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    Im owner of 06 XLI,im use simple lock at the steering cross underneath, i think its much secure and better way, cuz whn some wana steal car has not that much time, i also hav installed ordianry security system but i rely on that typical TALA (Lock).
    Lets see our experts wat suggest for Corolla owners.

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