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    Default Query about Security system and Immobiliser.

    Salam PWers!
    As we all have noticed recently that there has been a considerable increase in the theft of Corolla. In the past past 3 weeks, I have come across at least 7-8 cases of Corolla being stolen mostly from inside the house. My taya lost his brand new Altis outside his house in F-11 ISB.
    These incidents have compelled me to look for a rather durable and robust security system for my cars.
    Back in 1998, my father had this Suzuki Margalla which had 3 buttons placed conveniently at different locations in the car.
    After inserting the key in the ignition, these three buttons were needed to be pressed in a particular combination for the car to start.
    Now i am looking to install such a system in my car but with a lot more robustness. Therefore, i will appreciate it if experts here can pool in some suggestions in this thread to make such a system. At the end of the discussion, i expect that we might come up with durable system which will be immune to hot wiring the ignition.
    And how exactly does an immobiliser work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    the wheel clamp is easy to remove - just deflate the tire and work it out. it has been done a lot of times. The Karachi traffic police had these at one time and people just deflated the tire - worked it out, replaced tire with spare, put the clamp in the boot and go home with it - later the clamps were found as cut up pieces in scrap metal markets.

    The older spider type ones are the easiest to remove.

    You dont need to buy these from the USA, order them from aliexpress or get a local lohaar/welder to make them for you - the same guys who make radio towers can make these.
    Now I was beginning to think it a secure thing when you busted the bubble

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    the wheel clamp is easy to remove - just deflate the tire and work it out. it has been done a lot of times. The Karachi traffic police had these at one time and people just deflated the tire - worked it out, replaced tire with spare, put the clamp in the boot and go home with it - later the clamps were found as cut up pieces in scrap metal markets.

    The older spider type ones are the easiest to remove.

    You dont need to buy these from the USA, order them from aliexpress or get a local lohaar/welder to make them for you - the same guys who make radio towers can make these.
    the one i have covers the whole lug nut area, n its pretty tightened n doesnt moves so how would they change the tire? though nothing is impossible but i guess it would require alot of time n they'll just prefer to steal one where they wont have to go through all this hassle

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    Me to want to know how they open tire after deflation.

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    you deflate tire and wrestle this out - the rubber is floppy and can be worked out - once the clamp is off - open bootlid - remove jack and spare, replace deflated tire with spare - put stuff back along with clamp - stop by local kabariya and sell this clamp for weight - get money put in pocket and go about your life - cell phone, sutta, paan, poondi/taar.... you know the usual stuff.
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    I thought it has some metal link passing through the rim to the other side and hence impossible to remove even by deflating the tire...like common lock passing through the hole........it don't?

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    it does not pass through the wheel as its impossible to do that in some cars - brake shield, disc, drum etc etc is in the way and it would take an awful long time to set it up.

    it clamps the wheel from either side. - it also considers the tire as the wheel as the tire is solid when inflated.
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    Hmmmm yes setting it up that way is headache. I have seen more pics of it and it clamps from either side only which is of no use. However if it had rod passing through spokes then it would be great for people like me whose car is parked in street for whole week and comes out only on weekend :-) .
    Its worth taking pain of setting it up.
    If i am not wrong Immobilizer can only be installed in ecu model cars so other workable solution is 2 way security system and some physical locks like China lock at steering column, steering wheel lock and clutch bar etc.

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    I have imported 3 Malaysian Locktech locks from Thai. They are for manual corolla 2009-2013. Price is 17K final for each. Got 3 steps security.
    Its nothing normal or seen here before and is the most famous brand of malaysia and thailand, where every 24 minutes a car is stolen.

    For details visit its website;
    www.locktech-carlock.com.my
    Power wears out those who don't have it.

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    Very costly ... immobilizer is way better solution than these locks or on the other hand steel mate 2 way system.... these types of locks though add up to the security but not fool proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nasirjavaid View Post
    Very costly ... immobilizer is way better solution than these locks or on the other hand steel mate 2 way system.... these types of locks though add up to the security but not fool proof.
    Bro how much does 2 way steel mate cost and how much is the range of signals. This locktech is a fool proof system, at least in Pakistan, as no one knows how to tamper it. Malaysian and thai car lifters are much more equipped then pakistanis and these locks are designed to withstand them
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    2 way system is arround 12K i think but not sure and its range is 1km. you get notification on remote if alarm goes on so you can for sure know if someone tempered with the car. I am not saying these locks are not good. they are great for parking the car in street overnight and long period.
    Can you share some video of how these locks work. Maybe this urges members to get one for themselves....maybe me to make up my mind to get one

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    Bro there is no way too secure your car my friend lost his car at lahore metro shopping center.thief just cover his car with cover he did no notice and searching his car in parking after this he call the police to make report and thAn he got a taxi and travel back to home after to days he recieved A call from peshawar he said a man on phone ask him a found a some papper and contact number in car if u want ur car give me 4 lakhs and get ur back finally he make a deal with in to lacks and get his car back from peshawar. Aur bhai ap log locks ki bat kar rahy ho mere chachu sy chor ghari hathon sy ly gaye woh doston k sath lahore ja rahy thy rasty main ik corolla aur civic ny aghy peechay ghari laga kar roka aur phir gun point per ghari cheen li aur badluck thi k insurance 2 din pehlay khatam hoi aur hamain apni ghari 8 saal k bad meranshah sy mili hy 2013 main

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    Few days back i have city i m in lahore with my czn he said yar yahan chor gharri ghar sy ly jatay hian aur pata b nahi chala khair dar tu laga bro per ALLAH TALLAH Sy dua mangi main ny socha aghar ghar sy jatay hian tu ghar bahir sy isi lock tornay kitna time lagain gy so i leave it without locking it in morning i heard in our row some lost his new gli from home and my unlock city is parked on road and car still on palace. Bro luck ki bat hy jab jani hy tu jani hy i m converted to gli and dont go for anylocks. Car still with just simple lock factory fitted but toyota company make some sense about immobilizer option in car for piece of ming
    Per bro jab jani hy th immobilizer kiya kar ly ga.

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    Very sad to hear your story bro but we simply can't give our cars to thieves putting in plate. IMO immobilizer is best suited as it is even snatch proof and only be started by reprogramming the ecu. Another option which I think is good is 2 way system. Along with these systems, a clutch bar, steering column lock and some wheel clamp lock can ensure lot of safety as thieve has less time so these things are to make theft hard and painstaking.
    If thief covered the car with top cover then why didn't your friend beeped the security remote to locate car ???

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    I recite aayt ul kursi daily at night on my car and sleep peacefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nasirjavaid View Post
    I recite aayt ul kursi daily at night on my car and sleep peacefully.
    Same here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axe.effect View Post
    Same here.
    Yip, its best thing for peace of mind but we should also consider other means to secure our cars... as God is Raaziq but he needs us to earn it. Similarly God is protector but he also needs us to do our best and leave rest to him... 2-3 different security deterrence means should do good to keep thief away. Last resort is of course aayat ul kursi

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    Quote Originally Posted by nasirjavaid View Post
    Yip, its best thing for peace of mind but we should also consider other means to secure our cars... as God is Raaziq but he needs us to earn it. Similarly God is protector but he also needs us to do our best and leave rest to him... 2-3 different security deterrence means should do good to keep thief away. Last resort is of course aayat ul kursi
    Exactly.

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    Can any one suggest best remote locking system for gli.

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    Don't know if it's efii or carby . if efi then immobilizer is best else in my thought steel mate 2 way is ahead till now.

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