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    Hi All

    I got a XLI 2012 with 20K on it. The toyota dealer in Peshawar says that it would needs spark plug replacement at 20K.

    Is it true? Do i really need new spark plugs at 20k? Does it not depend on conditions of them?

    Dealer says spark plug life is for 20K only.

    Please advise,

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    Good spark plugs can run upto 100000+ kms.


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    Yes so is this just a way to make money? Because it sucks. Will cost me 12K for a 20K service

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    Never been to any dealer in my life. i cannot guide you much but for sure these are making money of out nothing.

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    I have 20K on my 2012 xli. Do you think i should ditch the dealer and do everything myself? Will that void my warranty?

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    there is no such thing,called "WARRANTY" in Pakistan.Its a SCAM :/

    further you can ask anyone else.... who has experiences of dealerships

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    Quote Originally Posted by Believeryes View Post
    I have 20K on my 2012 xli. Do you think i should ditch the dealer and do everything myself? Will that void my warranty?
    What warranty?

    If pakistani manufacturers start giving "warranty claims" to the customers then probably they will left with no profits; considering "Build Quality" of our Indus Toyota, Honda Atlas and Pak Suzuki.

    Here in Pakistan things normally move backwards. I bought a GLI in 2009, its owner manual recommended changing spark plugs at 40k kms. I have bought another in 2012 and its owner manual is recommending at 20k kms. What do you call this? Negative Development!!!

    This all is a scam. It is done only to maximise money hoarding by the dealers and the manufacturer. If your car has been sensibly driven and maintained, nothing will happen to the spark plugs until 40k kms. Changing them at 20k is false economy and wastage.
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    So you mean the engine warranty Toyota claims to give is just a Scam?

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    normal plugs last 20k. iridium/platinum ones last longer, if your car has normal plugs, they should be changed at 20k.
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    Definitely, yes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by spectra View Post
    normal plugs last 20k. iridium/platinum ones last longer, if your car has normal plugs, they should be changed at 20k.
    New Corolla plugs last upto 40k kms without any problem. If you want to be more cautious or if you have an extreme driving style or if you are using sub-standard fuel or if you have extra money then you can opt to change at 20k. No problemo!

    As far as warranty goes, have you ever visited dealers backyards? Have you ever noticed accident damaged, un-registered cars there. Ever wondered where they end up?

    The reason why I was saying that this warranty thing is a scam is because this all depends upon your relationship with the particular dealer. No matter how religiously you follow their instructions or suggestions or recommendations, if you are ever in a situation where you need to get a warranty claim, it will always depend upon your personal relationship with the dealer. Or vice versa, if you are in good terms with him, he will never bother about maintenance schedule or spark plugs or genuine parts; he will give you your claim even if he has to replace your part with a new part from another "zero meter" car from his stock.
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    That is interesting to hear. You are right, nothing in Pakistan is done the right way I have been following the Toyota recommended service procedures till now but now i have doubts about all this

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    Factory Fitted plugs are normal one i think with copper electrode, if you get iridium or platinum ones the last 50k+ they cost about 4.5-5k. These also last about 30-40K

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    15-20k for normal spark plugs. others like iridium can last a bit longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Believeryes View Post
    That is interesting to hear. You are right, nothing in Pakistan is done the right way I have been following the Toyota recommended service procedures till now but now i have doubts about all this
    It is written in the toyota corolla owners manual that the wheel nuts to be tightened to a specific torque. Just ask this specific dealer what a torqe wrench is? or what is the tightening torque value for corolla wheel nuts or do they have torque wrench in their work shop and is it calibrated? If it is necessary to use torque wrench for tightening wheel nuts then why don't do that normally? How does this impact their vehicles warranty? They don't do it because it is a cost on their end and no profit involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gujar96 View Post
    Factory Fitted plugs are normal one i think with copper electrode, if you get iridium or platinum ones the last 50k+ they cost about 4.5-5k. These also last about 30-40K
    Bhai jan, there are other factors as well, it isn't only the "electrode" which is responsible for spark plug life.
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    copper plugs last max 8-10k kms
    denso iridiums last about 40k kms
    ngk iridiums last about 60k kms
    these plugs are tested according to japnese standards,
    companies claim they can run up to 100k kms but thats if uve got the same weather conditions n fuel conditions in japan which isnt the case
    what plugs are u using right now?
    it is usually recomended that when anyone buys a new car he should get all the maintenance work done

    Quote Originally Posted by Believeryes View Post
    Hi All

    I got a XLI 2012 with 20K on it. The toyota dealer in Peshawar says that it would needs spark plug replacement at 20K.

    Is it true? Do i really need new spark plugs at 20k? Does it not depend on conditions of them?

    Dealer says spark plug life is for 20K only.

    Please advise,

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    your right,depends on the driving style,weather conditions n the type of plug ur using,iridums last 40k+ easily.
    check my thread,it has links to the diys, n other details for people who dont have knowledge about plugs
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/eng...gs-all-cars-83
    Quote Originally Posted by ehalin View Post
    Bhai jan, there are other factors as well, it isn't only the "electrode" which is responsible for spark plug life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ehalin View Post
    Bhai jan, there are other factors as well, it isn't only the "electrode" which is responsible for spark plug life.
    I am not an expert on this but just to elaborate the other factors could be:

    1. Fuel (leaded/un-leaded)
    2. Driving style (highway near to maximum engine speed, normal and within city i.e., stop and go)
    3. Engine technology (CB point, electronic ignition, carburetor, EFI, EFI with/without HO2S)

    Corolla in Pakistan driven normally (some city and some highway) using unleaded fuel and having an engine with EFI, the spark plugs should last upto 40k kms and that too the normal copper electrode ones.
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    And if you are too worried about spark plugs then I recommed you to inspect them at 20k and check their condition. If they seem ok then you can re-install them after cleaning and next time change after 40k. This way you will have made an informed decision.

    Just be careful that while re-using spark plugs since the gasket is already compressed, there is always a chance of over-tightening and damaging the threads in aluminium cylinder head. So it is recommended by Toyota to use a torque wrench which I am sure your esteemed dealer will not have.
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