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    Piyari awaam ke liye thori aur tasweerein, in our favorite Corolla color

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    ""driven it, better than before, but not gud as elantra 2.0 2014""

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    Sad part here is that it is the same DUAL VVT-i 1.6 Engine with NO modifications

    same 121 hp @ 6000 rpm and 154 NM @ 5200 rpm


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    Quote Originally Posted by AK471 View Post
    @Umair................Salams bro!

    ^ You see, you're pretty much trying to do to me, what you wouldn't want me to do to you: Corolla Seduction! Lol!

    Can't say for you, but I personally may not land in the Corolla camp again, till this immobilizer issue is cleared. Not because a darn immobilizer can save what is to be lost.....but simply because it says something about customer care by the maker. And Indus is a NIL with this respect.

    Hence, it seems it's a DELIBERATE rejection of immobilizer goodie to Pak customers and about recycled Corolla's going back to the manufacturing unit...bla bla bla!

    Anyhow, above interior pics look like every darn manufacturer can't think original, but has to go BMW'ing!

    Regards.

    Waalaiqum Salam buddy

    I cannot agree more ! without Immobilizer , Corolla is too risky ! Lets see , if Indis is not providing Immobilizer in the NEXT GEN then COROLLA IS out of question !
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    Quote Originally Posted by saadkhangul View Post
    LOL......... . My 300k driven 2nd gen Honda city and 120k driven 8th gen Honda Civic must be laughing at you. Its a toyota forum so i will not provoke any further argument.
    Honda is not even worth a laughter, I found its ride quality appalling.
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    Corolla Variants ----> Axio, Altis

    By personally experiencing a 2014 Corolla Saturday last , & a Honda Civic in April 2013 I give +5 to Honda Civic though for me Honda is a lawn mower & motorbike manufacturer.
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    APV & Jimmy are Imported from Suzuki Vietnam . brand new wagon-R landed price is equivalent of Local Cultus VXR you must've seen a JDM used Wagon-R for repairs or some maintenance work

    Quote Originally Posted by 2126 View Post
    Dear Capset, Then why Suzuki is importing Wagon R from INDONESIA, in CPU form they can buy CKD and assemble any car in Pakistan, let me tell you PAK SUZUKI is 73 % own by Suzuki Japan, its a wholly Owned Subsidiary of Suzuki Japan.
    And they are earning a lot in Pakistan, then why not to invest in a country where you are earning like a hell.


    Please not that CULTUS BOLAN RAVI LIANA, Pak SUZUKI has recovered its investment long time back. I am telling you this because I know you have some good links in Suzuki.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supereagle View Post
    Honda is not even worth a laughter, I found its ride quality appalling.
    Correct. The seats are just as uncomfortable as Cultus 2002 and the ride itself feels like a donkey..

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    Quote Originally Posted by supereagle View Post
    Mohtaram bradpit Sahib,
    Maloom nahin aap C Class aur Corolla ko aik saath daikh kar mujh say kyun naaraaz ho gayay. I like both the cars and have both in my garage. I have a Corolla 2.0 D and a Mercedes 190 D in Pakistan and a Mercedes C63 AMG in USA. Doonoon hee brands mairay pass hain.

    Coming to Toyota and Honda Pakistan. I've test driven both here in Pakistan for I need a new car very badly. I did not like the drive of Honda and comparatively, I liked Toyota's ride. I've also done a personal survey of the quality of both brands. What I've gathered is that Toyota outlasts Honda by quite a lot because of its better build quality. I also test drove a friend's 2008 Civic which had done only 41000 km and its ride was awful. On the other hand, when I tested a GLi with only 18000 km on the clock, I loved it. Toyota's suspension felt much better.

    I just need a new car for my family for just two years.
    Sir u cannot judge a car by its suspension.

    Now for arguments sake I can say that C63 AMG is just brute force and M3 is real drivers car for track days but that will lead us nowhere.

    Just its your personal preference you cannot say that Brand A is reliable than Brand B.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supereagle View Post
    Honda is not even worth a laughter, I found its ride quality appalling.
    Brother if your country's road and infrastructure is not good you cannot criticize ride quality.

    You can bring your C63 AMG here and witness its ride quality at local roads it will hit on every speed breaker and ride quality with its stock 235/40 ZR18 semi slicks would be even worse than a Cultus it does not make it a worse car than Cultus.

    Each car has its role, like you cannot send an Accountant to do a salesperson job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chinyoti View Post
    2ZR FE came in 2005 When the 9th Gen Corolla SE SALOON was facelifted to Altis, Came with a ABS and a engine change.
    Brother its my mistake Altis always came with 1ZZ-FE since 2005 to 2011 when it was replaced with 1ZR-FE.

    Wikipedia is correct.

    2ZR-FE is in Premio and would come in next generation US Corolla.

    2ZR-FAE is the best one which comes in 2007 onwards Axio luxel edition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by capsat View Post
    APV & Jimmy are Imported from Suzuki Vietnam . brand new wagon-R landed price is equivalent of Local Cultus VXR you must've seen a JDM used Wagon-R for repairs or some maintenance work
    Brother I have seen some 50 or so Wagon-R at port qasim as per my knowledge it will be introduced in 3rd week of March with an MSRP of 900K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bradpit View Post
    Brother its my mistake Altis always came with 1ZZ-FE since 2005 to 2011 when it was replaced with 1ZR-FE.

    Wikipedia is correct.

    2ZR-FE is in Premio and would come in next generation US Corolla.

    2ZR-FAE is the best one which comes in 2007 onwards Axio luxel edition.
    Agreed, I was confused to when I googled but I thot that the discussion was about that engine so maybe the spec sheet I saw wasn't correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by capsat View Post
    Corolla Variants ----> Axio, Altis

    By personally experiencing a 2014 Corolla Saturday last , & a Honda Civic in April 2013 I give +5 to Honda Civic though for me Honda is a lawn mower & motorbike manufacturer.
    Brother you should also consider the price difference which is nearly 50% now.
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    hope so dear because i need to change car by june so it is launched it will better

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    It's no doubts a beauty and a death kiss to Honda 9 Gen!

    BUT!

    Beware! It's going to be the most lifted car in Pakistan, especially the freshest ones!

    My source in Indus informed me that even for this time, Indus not considering the Immobilizer function!

    Hence, what you get from a +2 Mils vehicle is a Carry dabba easiness wrt to hot-wiring for thieves!

    @Umair.................I think this important issue calls for a PW campaign against indus!

    Why not begin today and email them a link? Would you guyz like to spread out this message to Indus? This requires a united effort right here with plenty, plenty of signatures, followed by an invitation to Indus to visit our site.

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    We will not buy if indus will not give imbolizer this time
    plz all pw members we should unite this time and we wil not buy untill they force to introduce imbolizer
    So many people have lost their cars just due to imbolizer nt given

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    In japan they already have Hybird Corolla with 2AR-FXE engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bradpit View Post
    Brother if your country's road and infrastructure is not good you cannot criticize ride quality.

    You can bring your C63 AMG here and witness its ride quality at local roads it will hit on every speed breaker and ride quality with its stock 235/40 ZR18 semi slicks would be even worse than a Cultus it does not make it a worse car than Cultus.

    Each car has its role, like you cannot send an Accountant to do a salesperson job.
    Mohtaram bradpit Sahib,
    Well I've been careful enough to eliminate the 'selection bias' of the test drives I'm talking about. I live in Islamabad and roads here are as good as in Dubai or Texas. The 'bias' of poor road quality was eliminated by me when I selected smooth silky roads of Islamabad.

    Talking about my C63 AMG. I've it in Michigan, USA where roads are worse than in Islamabad because of heavy snowing in Winters. Summers are mildly hot and Winters are extremely cold. This temperature variation tremendously damages roads and cracks them. The damage to roads is further aggravated by putting salt on the roads after snowing. Salt damages the road surface and has the ability to put large potholes in the roads. You will know that salt lowers the freezing temperature of water and is used by road managing authorities to thaw the snow so that it can be scraped clear by the ploughs. Authorities over there are always repairing roads. So my C63 AMG runs on roads in Michigan which are harsher than in Islamabad. That's why I prefer driving my Jeep Grand Cherokee on those rough roads and don't feel anything. I take out my C63 only when I find good driving conditions mainly in Summers when road repair is taken care of.

    Believe you me, my C63 AMG will perform better in Islamabad than in Michigan because of better roads. The weather over there is very traumatic to the roads. Only 4X4s will perform better there.

    When testing the ride quality of Corolla and Civic, I was careful enough to test them in Islamabad where roads are as good as in Europe, Dubai or Texas.

    Cultus is a miserable car. Both build and ride quality is pathetic. When I was in my college years in the 80s, my mom bought me a zero-mile Suzuki FX to commute between home and college, 1985 model, and it has clocked more than 300,000 km. Its build quality is amazing and still going strong. It is better than Cultus. My sister has a Cultus which I drive occasionally and I've found the car pathetic. My FX drives better than it. Such is the appalling quality of today's Suzuki brand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradpit View Post
    Brother I have seen some 50 or so Wagon-R at port qasim as per my knowledge it will be introduced in 3rd week of March with an MSRP of 900K.

    Good going, Let us wait & see when booking is announced for delivery, 50 units means the CKd kits are already on way & tooling is ready to proceed with assembly line
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