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    assalam o allaikum
    I need your help. I am facing problem with my car. I have toyota corolla 1.6 auto transmition 2013 model. I was going on umrah (one side is almost 1600km and I was driving about 160kmh) on the way my car fuel was going to empty, when petrol pump came that time only petrol for 25-30km remaining. fuel was refilling, and my car start jerking, RPM start moving up and down. I turn off the engine, when start again RPM was ok. after some days I noticed when I start the engine RPM are at very low level, even I think car not start. after some seconds or if I accelerate then RPM come normal. I want to ask what is the problem? before whenever I start my car, never accelerate the engine. I give proper time to engine when RPM come normal level then I accelerate and start drivine or on the ac. my car is now 50000km driven.
    I think maybe fuel injector problem? can it solve if I add fuel injector cleaner in petrol?
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    Check the grips of all sensors as due to jerk grip must be loose which settle the rpm

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    Can Be A Drive By Wire Throttle Issue Also

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    rusty fuel tank that is one reason car engine need to be shut off at fuel station you shall change fuel filter 1st before any other stuff

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    did you fill it up to the brim? fuel might have got into the evaporative system - it can cause havoc as the evap purge solenoids activate. When the engine runs vacuum from the intake manifold is directed to the fuel tank to create a small vacuum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    did you fill it up to the brim? fuel might have got into the evaporative system - it can cause havoc as the evap purge solenoids activate. When the engine runs vacuum from the intake manifold is directed to the fuel tank to create a small vacuum.

    Dont ever fuel your car with engine running,
    I used injector cleaner liquid in petrol, when i putt car starts normly, after 2-3k again same starting problem. second time again use injector cleaner liquind, again problem solved, but now after 3000 again I'm feeling same problem. please tell me what should I do. now my car's milage is 62000.

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    Did you replace fuel filter?
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    Imtiaz sb... go for injector cleaning, check throttle body and spark plugs ...

    Did you done your injector cleaning before??? When you have changed your spark plugs???
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    Quote Originally Posted by faisalayub View Post
    Imtiaz sb... go for injector cleaning, check throttle body and spark plugs ...

    Did you done your injector cleaning before??? When you have changed your spark plugs???
    I not change fuel filter and spark plugs. Also I not clean the injector system.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Imtiazmughal View Post
    I not change fuel filter and spark plugs. Also I not clean the injector system.

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    Do give a proper checkup to Spark plugs, throttle body, and clean injectors, also check fuel filter... I think as you mentioned you havent uptil now cleaned your complete injectors???

    As you are heading towards for Umrah, so it is better to do all things, so you cannot face any big issues in the way....
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    Quote Originally Posted by faisalayub View Post
    Do give a proper checkup to Spark plugs, throttle body, and clean injectors, also check fuel filter... I think as you mentioned you havent uptil now cleaned your complete injectors???

    As you are heading towards for Umrah, so it is better to do all things, so you cannot face any big issues in the way....
    Thanks faisal bhai. I made checkup from toyota upto 35k. Dont know what they clean. I will try to make proper checkup as you mentioned.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Imtiazmughal View Post
    I not change fuel filter and spark plugs. Also I not clean the injector system.


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    Try and change spark plugs with original denso iridium plugs (800-850)each and hope it solves problem as it did with mine car

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    Quote Originally Posted by faisalayub View Post
    Do give a proper checkup to Spark plugs, throttle body, and clean injectors, also check fuel filter... I think as you mentioned you havent uptil now cleaned your complete injectors???

    As you are heading towards for Umrah, so it is better to do all things, so you cannot face any big issues in the way....
    height of laziness, upto now not do anything. only one time clean injector system from petromin, but not satisfied. after sometime use mixed petrol 91 and 95. once I used mixed petrol and injector cleaner in petrol and travel jubail>khubar>jubail at 120-140, after that problem became less to 50%. now petromin people was telling me to do injector system service as their regular maintenance. so advice me, should I do from them or from any other mechanic?
    I asked one mechanic to check plugs, he said if car make jerks then need to change plugs, otherwise no. but my car not make jerks.
    want to change fuel filter, but I don't have any trusted mechanic at here. will try in coming week. InshaAllah.

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    Which petrol you are using 91 or 95???
    When did you changed plugs??


    For injector cleaning Petromin will charge from you 500 riyals or more, and that too is not ultrasonic cleaning, they will put some liquid in your car fuel tank, and after half hour keeping the car at idle they will say ok your injectors are cleaned now. This is what I have seen once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    did you fill it up to the brim? fuel might have got into the evaporative system - it can cause havoc as the evap purge solenoids activate. When the engine runs vacuum from the intake manifold is directed to the fuel tank to create a small vacuum.

    Dont ever fuel your car with engine running,

    Even i was shocked to see when i was 12 i went to dubai, my father was there and we went to petrol pump to refuel our Chevy Tahoe and car was started and the guy at pump was filling and i asked dad to stop the engine but he refused he said i am doing like this from years and i said him in Pakistan, pump guys say us to turn off head lights shut down the engine and then refuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faisalayub View Post
    Which petrol you are using 91 or 95???
    When did you changed plugs??


    For injector cleaning Petromin will charge from you 500 riyals or more, and that too is not ultrasonic cleaning, they will put some liquid in your car fuel tank, and after half hour keeping the car at idle they will say ok your injectors are cleaned now. This is what I have seen once.

    Its better to go to Toyota company, discuss your problem with them.
    I am using 91. now sometimes I am using mix 50-50 91 and 95 twice a month.
    never change plugs. as I asked one mechanic, he tell me if there is missing or jerking, then need to change, otherwise no need to change and there is no jerking in my car. only when I start after sometime, then on starting make jerk, if I start without race, if I give race same time then also no jerk.
    once I do injector cleaning from petromin but no satisfy. yes they do like you are telling, just putt injector cleaner direct in injectors, after gave me a bottle to put in fuel tank with full of petrol.
    toyota will b too costly, not want to go there.

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    Change your plugs, as iridium plugs must be changed after 100k kms. Normal plugs must be changed after every 20 to 25k kms.. its better to change the plugs and see the difference..

    and I think that your car is designed for 91 fuel...

    Need to know that when you use 91 only it jerks or not??? If it jerks switch to 95 and than see, if it also jerks on 95 than use mixture of both. Because some are designed for 91 fuel but they starts jerking after some time and they becomes fine when 95 fuel is used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faisalayub View Post
    Change your plugs, as iridium plugs must be changed after 100k kms. Normal plugs must be changed after every 20 to 25k kms.. its better to change the plugs and see the difference..

    and I think that your car is designed for 91 fuel...

    Need to know that when you use 91 only it jerks or not??? If it jerks switch to 95 and than see, if it also jerks on 95 than use mixture of both. Because some are designed for 91 fuel but they starts jerking after some time and they becomes fine when 95 fuel is used.
    thanks for your reply.
    I will try to change plugs.
    my cuson in riyadh bought same car almost same time when I buy. he is using 95. I drive after last refill 250km, so I add only 95 in that. now I will check the difference. I am feeling from some days jerk problem got less. will also use once again injector cleaner with mix of 91 and 95 while going to khubar. before I did like this and now I am using sometimes mix petrol so problem got less.
    also time is coming to change break pads, is it start small vibration while braking. before I change after 80k (but vibration start before) now vibration start after 40k, but not too much.

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