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    Default Transmission Oil Change Interval for Toyota Altis Auto

    Hi,

    I recently purchased a 2010 Corolla Altis 1.8 Automatic
    Car is 84k driven and I don't know the status of its transmission oil change.

    How often should I changed transmission oil and what oil is recommended.

    Thank you.

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    @bradpit sir ji what was your source of information when you suggested T-IV for Altis Cruisetronic?

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    The 1ZZFE auto trany takes Toyota ATF WS

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    self edit, a better explanation already provided on last page of thread consult that, i had not seen it before
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahamid View Post
    @bradpit sir ji what was your source of information when you suggested T-IV for Altis Cruisetronic?
    Brother Toyota T-WS is definitely not made for engines and transmission made in the 90's which the local 2010 Altis use.

    Toyota never made it backward compatible, introduced in 2007-08 when they were making CVTs a much thinner oil for tighter tolerances.

    If u cant find T-IV better to use Mobil 1 ATF 3309.

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    I have Altis Cruisetronic 1.8 2011 and done 81,000kms. I checked the ATF and on dipstick it says "WS" and also says that "ATF does not need to be changed under normal driving conditions. I mostly drive in city, with occasional inter city travel. Auto is smooth and car gives me 10.5km/h on AC, close to 12 without AC

    Question to OP: Did you change your ATF? share your experience.

    Question to experts: Mechanics say change at 80,000kms, while Toyota says it is not necessary. The ATF is slightly discolored with normal ATF smell. I called a Toyota dealership and they say ATF WS is Rs.1864/liter with labor charges extra.

    I am confused: should I change ATF or not?

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    change ATF every 40 to 50k kilometers.
    use ATF WS only
    the 4 liter can costs around 5200
    buy from an authorised shop if the dealer is too expensive
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    Internet search shows that most US people prefer flushing transmission with ATF until clean ATF comes out, and may use 8+ liters in this method.

    The oil dealer says instead drop the ATF pan and there is a filter in it, clean it and refill ATF WS and will be done in 4 liters.

    I will ask my mechanic if he has any experience of doing ATF oil change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farazh View Post
    Internet search shows that most US people prefer flushing transmission with ATF until clean ATF comes out, and may use 8+ liters in this method.

    The oil dealer says instead drop the ATF pan and there is a filter in it, clean it and refill ATF WS and will be done in 4 liters.

    I will ask my mechanic if he has any experience of doing ATF oil change.
    when you remove the drain plug and pan, about half or less than half of the whole charge of ATF comes out, the rest is trapped in the torque converter and accumulators/clutches etc..

    The total capacity of automatics is not 3 or 4 litres - its usually 7 to 9 litres. upto 13 litres in some cases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    when you remove the drain plug and pan, about half or less than half of the whole charge of ATF comes out, the rest is trapped in the torque converter and accumulators/clutches etc..

    The total capacity of automatics is not 3 or 4 litres - its usually 7 to 9 litres. upto 13 litres in some cases.
    Then what do you suggest? Should I go to a toyota dealer? They are charging 30% extra for the oil and labour is extra, and I don't know what method they will use as they do not tell.

    My mechanic says he can drop pan and change but he is not sure how to take out all ATF. So am a bit hesitant to use my car for his learning experience..........

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    I checked the manual, it says 1zz-fe 1.8L ATF drain and refill is 2.5L??

    Manual also says to change ATF at 80,000kms if car is driven mostly at 80% of top sapeed, or if car is driven mostly at low speed, start-stop driving in congested traffic e.g taxis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farazh View Post
    Then what do you suggest? Should I go to a toyota dealer? They are charging 30% extra for the oil and labour is extra, and I don't know what method they will use as they do not tell.

    My mechanic says he can drop pan and change but he is not sure how to take out all ATF. So am a bit hesitant to use my car for his learning experience..........

    the full charge of ATF can be changed out from using the fluid pump in the transmission, the cooler lines going to the radiator move ATF constantly, they are plumbed in a way that the torque converter exhaust goes to the cooler in the radiator and back into the sump, You undo the return line from the cooler and use the engine to pump out the ATF 2 litres at a time to be safe. I use a clear pipe to connect it to see when fresh rooh afza ATF starts to show up.

    The change capacity that you mention from the manual is less than half the quantity in the transmission. The reason for manufacturers to do that is to keep owners away from servicing it (modern ATFs are not like the old dexron/mercon - they are specially blended to have a specific friction characteristic - thats why I cringe when people say that they change modern HFM ATF with something like ZIC III).
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    i also have same altis 2010, mine is only driven 8000km but is now 5 years old, is there a need to change there ATF? it was mostly driven on motorway and rest stop start below 40km/h runs.

    if i do go for ATF change i think simple drain and refill would be enough keeping in mind the milage, on the manual age of oil is not mentioned just kms at which to change
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    the full charge of ATF can be changed out from using the fluid pump in the transmission, the cooler lines going to the radiator move ATF constantly, they are plumbed in a way that the torque converter exhaust goes to the cooler in the radiator and back into the sump, You undo the return line from the cooler and use the engine to pump out the ATF 2 litres at a time to be safe. I use a clear pipe to connect it to see when fresh rooh afza ATF starts to show up.
    Hmmmm, I will talk to service rep at toyota dealer and see if they follow the above procedure, and how much ATF they say should get used. Maybe I can talk them into me giving them the ATF and them charging for labor only, I save money this way.

    Other than toyota stealerships, so you know any workshop in Karachi who will do ATF change as per recommended method?

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    I changed the WS fluid last week on my 1.8 Cruisetronic last week at 59k odo. I have in depth info on the topic as I have done my research before the work. You can contact me on 03005254870

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    Quote Originally Posted by farazh View Post
    Hmmmm, I will talk to service rep at toyota dealer and see if they follow the above procedure, and how much ATF they say should get used. Maybe I can talk them into me giving them the ATF and them charging for labor only, I save money this way.

    Other than toyota stealerships, so you know any workshop in Karachi who will do ATF change as per recommended method?

    Its a very easy job.
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