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    Default Altis engine swap or rebuild

    dear members. xulfiqar and all experts
    my altis2005started black smoke and oil sucking about 1.5liter after every1000km. I've no choice other than to swap or rebuild. regarding swap may I go for dual vvti. Can half dual vvti engine fit on rest of the transmission and other parts. Or I've to go for complete engine for dual vvti. What would be its cost about. If I go for rebuild would it be like oem genuine. Plz guide how about to do it. if dual vvti doesn't support then which one?

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      Which dual vvti engine do you plan on swapping? Dual vvti is available in the ZR series engines (1zr, 2zr) which are very recent engines so they wont be easily available in the market and would be very expensive plus you'll have to change the wiring, ecu, install a pedal sensor since its dbw and other hassles since it runs off can bus. A better option would be to swap a 1nz-fe which is widely available. All you'll have to do is, replace the engine and the ecu and the same wiring will be used. Getting an imported engine would be a better option than rebuilding the current engine.

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      a swap would be better for u, u can rebuild the current engine but u need to find an honest mechanic who knows his work, even though every roadside mechanic will say that he can set rings on pistons, overhaul etc but they try to rip u off by just giving u a car that runs, and u can end up in more problems than before just under 5000km. also u didn't mention the mileage of the current engine.
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      swap the engine block only if required. First detect the reason for reduction of oil.
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      thanks all of you. I do not know the availability of 1zr or 2zr but thinking of it. it's fuel consumption is still marvelous as I've travelled on motorway and other long distance tour it gives17km per liter. While cng also runs for170km per filling. I thinkyou all added right I've to go for similar to save all wiring and other stuff. It becomes very noisy when hot. I think I should go for engine block.

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      Dear looking some further guidance. Plz post your opinion

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      Go for Engine Block or For 1 NZ-FE these are the most suitable options.Rebuild Engine only if Mechanic is an Expert one not a USTAAD
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      I will never advise you for engine swap,get the existing engine rebuilt,black smoke and oil eating problems are not a big deal,it can be fixed by replacing worn ring pistons,valve & guides etc....
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      As @capsat said but had to be done with care and proper tools not by roadside guys


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      Both options, if done improperly, can result in disasters.

      Engine re-build is recommended for you, as swapping an engine isn't an easier job, and has thousands of things that you need to take care of even when you think engine is in place and running fine.

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      Black Smoke is not a big deal. Oil reducing is thing you need to worry. Open spark plugs and how do they look? oily?
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      If you are thinking of swaping then you should know that as you are not going to get a brand new engine...so you may end up rebuilding it too...no one would give you its warantty for more than few days unless you have some damn serious relation with the seller....and most of the swaps that i have seen dont end up well .....only few lucky ones get good engines....and in that there is also no "kamal" of anyone....it is just luck and a very little involment of knowledge....
      If it is the first time go for a rebuild from some good reputable mechanic......you may just end up replacing rings, valves and valve seals...and mmay not need to rebuild the whole engine.....
      Plus rebuilding would be cheap....as engines have become insanely expensive these days....reasonable swap would cost around 100k along with engine exchange...
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      I think kay rebuild option ko ek baar try zaroor karein. Problem itni bari nahi k aap Swap ko first priority dein. Just go to any expert and get things sorted out for Rs.30K.

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      You should not go for engine swap. It's costly, involves risks and requires advanced skills to be accomplished successfully. Every tom, dick and harry can not do this job. Plus, there are fewer chances that you will get a quality used engine. Now, the problem you have mentioned is not a major problem. It happens with cars when engines ages over the period of time. What you need to do is look for these issues:
      1- Check whether car is leaking oil from somewhere. Sometimes, cars leak oil when they are moving and not stationary. Get under the car and see oil debris to find out any leak.
      2- Since you have mentioned smoke issue, that could be due to weak piston rings, valve seals, leaked gasket, bad air filter etc. Such things can be fixed easily by a practised mechanics. Engine overhauling will cost you much less than risky engine swap. While your original engine will be opened, you can take care of other worn out parts as well. Finally, you will get a better performing engine of your own car.
      3- Check the power of engine. Do you feel any lag in performace, missing, poor pick, engine overheating etc. When engine has gone weak, you will observe the signs of weakness while driving. Check the spark plugs, radiator coolant for the presence of engine oil in it, check exhaust for leaking engine oil to be assured about the actual issue before making any decision.

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      thanks all of you and talal. it got leakage from side timing plate which is not remarkable but you added right it may increase while running. Regarding its power still have marvelous I have driven it on 150km per hour. No oil in radiator and silencer. No smoke while driving as I used to drive on low rpm below3000 it produce smoke above4000rpm. No heatup issues even in city running on Ac now a days. OK I'll try to find competent and honest mechanic in Lahore.

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