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    Update: August 3, 2014 XLI/GLI Details: Post# 2746

    Below XLI/GLI Details As per Pakwheel member @shk_54

    Registration cost 1.8, Islamabad

    Registration cost 1.6, Islamabad

    Registration cost of 1.3 Gli in Islamabad

    Fuel averages of Gli 1.3 AT, Altis 1.6 AT and Grande 1.8 CVT-i

    Gli 1.3 AT vs Altis 1.6 AT a fair analysis by @nido747


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    Quote Originally Posted by muhammad.hamza.shahid View Post
    no toyota bharat is offering new rims
    Though the rims couls have been offered without adding to the cost, other features being offered in Bharat are not without cost, The company stock altis with push start, Immobilizer etc still costs 4-5 lacs more than whats being offered here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsgumbys View Post
    Does 1.6 Altis will hv better resale ? Again no M/T in 1.6. Not so good.
    Gli/xli will have the best re sale. However, this time since 1.6 is only being offered in altis, I think it will have a comparatively better re sale. The loss would be way lower than I would get in selling 1.8 altis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burnoutrevenge View Post
    The drive will be sluggish but if the car is to be driven in city at constant speeds then, u won't notice any problems in its drive.
    Yes, the pick would be a lower than the prev generation owing to the increased body weight and same old engine.

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    I don't know how we are constantly saying that 1.3 will be under powered our sluggish even without driving a single mile just considering it's weight factor.
    other than engine and weight, there is one thing which we are constantly ignoring which is aerodynamic, our something else which we are missing
    I am inclined toward this because as per their official brochure 1.3 AT take about 17.4 seconds for 0 - 100km against it's competitor 1.3 AT which take about 17 second, though competitor has much less weight and high hp compared to this model.
    Another thing is about 1.3 AT fuel consumption which is 13.7 km/l against 14.1 of it's competitor AT.
    Can anyone shed light on this.
    @rizwan can you post picture of that specific page which shows these comparisons.



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    Spotted this near khokar chowk and yes I didn't felt that it was too high or the bumper was too big. And it was a very good looking car and had killer looks. Though there's one thing I didn't like and that is there is too much chrome on the front grill. In other colors it looks great but in black it was looking a little cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by omar_575 View Post
    @ALL What's the drawback of cvt transmission?

    I'm asking this since it was discontinued in the Honda city after 2007- instead they opted for a prosmatec tranny which isn't well mated to the engine.
    The only drawback which I have noticed that it isn't responsive as a normal AT transmission . While the city vario failed in Pakistan because it wasn't compitable on cng hence atlas honda learned lesson

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzkhan View Post
    I don't know how we are constantly saying that 1.3 will be under powered our sluggish even without driving a single mile just considering it's weight factor.
    other than engine and weight, there is one thing which we are constantly ignoring which is aerodynamic, our something else which we are missing
    I am inclined toward this because as per their official brochure 1.3 AT take about 17.4 seconds for 0 - 100km against it's competitor 1.3 AT which take about 17 second, though competitor has much less weight and high hp compared to this model.
    Another thing is about 1.3 AT fuel consumption which is 13.7 km/l against 14.1 of it's competitor AT.
    Can anyone shed light on this.
    @rizwan can you post picture of that specific page which shows these comparisons.



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    Yeh sab kehne ki baatain hain. The current model is poorer in performance then the earlier one and according to trend new one is gonna be worse

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    CVT is being offered on certain trim levels in accord civic as well as fit and insight

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    Quote Originally Posted by omar_575 View Post
    @ALL What's the drawback of cvt transmission?

    I'm asking this since it was discontinued in the Honda city after 2007- instead they opted for a prosmatec tranny which isn't well mated to the engine.
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    I believe the NA corolla S is 40 KG or more heavier than Altis Grande and have the same 1.8 Engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fazalwahab11375 View Post
    I believe the NA corolla S is 40 KG or more heavier than Altis Grande and have the same 1.8 Engine.

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    I think they're of about same weight. Btw Grande is 139 HP while Corolla S is mentioned 132 HP

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    Quote Originally Posted by tahamujtaba View Post
    The only drawback which I have noticed that it isn't responsive as a normal AT transmission . While the city vario failed in Pakistan because it wasn't compitable on cng hence atlas honda learned lesson
    Cng compatibility was one issue while people not changing CVT oil on time which ruined their CVT was another major cause

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsgumbys View Post
    And how it compares to 11 gen altis 1.8 engine?
    the 10gen (pre facelift) PKDM altis had 1zzfe engine while the new altis has 2zrfe engine .
    Main features of new engine
    1) Torque-strong performance
    While Dual VVT-i enables continuous control of optimum valve timing for various engine speeds and loads, abundant torque at low and medium speeds allows for easy-to-handle output, providing one of the best torque-strong performances in the 1.8-liter class.

    2) Excellent fuel efficiency and clean exhaust emissions
    The use of Dual VVT-i and ultra-light pistons, along with efforts to reduce friction loss among parts such as by using roller bearings in the rocker arm valve train, are aimed at achieving at least 5% greater fuel efficiency than that achievable by conventional engines and at achieving clean exhaust emissions (equivalent to 75% lower than the maximum allowed by 2005 emissions standards).

    3) Reduced size and weight
    Reduced exterior dimensions and weight have been achieved by modularizing the front section of the engine and using smaller-diameter spark plugs, etc.

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    does not matters for altis, untill xli gli price is reasonable no one cares even if altis goes to 2.8 mil
    Quote Originally Posted by WiZeIce View Post
    Though the rims couls have been offered without adding to the cost, other features being offered in Bharat are not without cost, The company stock altis with push start, Immobilizer etc still costs 4-5 lacs more than whats being offered here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsgumbys View Post
    And how it compares to 11 gen altis 1.8 engine?
    Main features of new engine
    1) Torque-strong performance
    While Dual VVT-i enables continuous control of optimum valve timing for various engine speeds and loads, abundant torque at low and medium speeds allows for easy-to-handle output, providing one of the best torque-strong performances in the 1.8-liter class.

    2) Excellent fuel efficiency and clean exhaust emissions
    The use of Dual VVT-i and ultra-light pistons, along with efforts to reduce friction loss among parts such as by using roller bearings in the rocker arm valve train, are aimed at achieving at least 5% greater fuel efficiency than that achievable by conventional engines and at achieving clean exhaust emissions (equivalent to 75% lower than the maximum allowed by 2005 emissions standards).

    3) Reduced size and weight
    Reduced exterior dimensions and weight have been achieved by modularizing the front section of the engine and using smaller-diameter spark plugs, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maqsood106 View Post
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    This comparison belongs to which two models?

    if its new nd old corolla then there is just 1kg difference in weight??

    Also previous altis has 1ZZ engine ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsgumbys View Post
    This comparison belongs to which two models?

    if its new nd old corolla then there is just 1kg difference in weight??

    Also previous altis has 1ZZ engine ??
    Sorry bro as i am new to pakwheels so m having difficulty in uploading images and it got uploaded two times as you can see a few post above that this is the engine difference of 10th gen pre face lift 2008-2011 altis and 2014 new altis the facelift version of 10th gen altis 2011-2014 had 1.6L 1zr fe engine . and this one Kg weight difference is just the engine weight difference .The chassis(body) weight of new altis is far more than the 10th gen altis

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    Quote Originally Posted by maqsood106 View Post
    Sorry bro as i am new to pakwheels so m having difficulty in uploading images and it got uploaded two times as you can see a few post above that this is the engine difference of 10th gen pre face lift 2008-2011 altis and 2014 new altis the facelift version of 10th gen altis 2011-2014 had 1.6L 1zr fe engine . and this one Kg weight difference is just the engine weight difference .The chassis(body) weight of new altis is far more than the 10th gen altis
    10 gen 1.8 altas had which engine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentassassin1 View Post
    Yeh sab kehne ki baatain hain. The current model is poorer in performance then the earlier one and according to trend new one is gonna be worse

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    We are taking every bit of their official document as final but when one try to understand anything quoting something positive from it we start saying "ye sab kehne ki batain hain".
    I am not at all expert on cars but have to believe what they are saying; and that something is not in accordance with some of our PW fellow understanding.
    My question is simple, do we have to see any technical aspect which we might be missing in judgement of new 1.3 version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tahamujtaba View Post
    The only drawback which I have noticed that it isn't responsive as a normal AT transmission . While the city vario failed in Pakistan because it wasn't compitable on cng hence atlas honda learned lesson
    Wrong..! Its only a little lesser responsive in early revs. Otherwise, its more responsive as compared to normal AT tranny.

    Major cause of failure of vario and steermatic was our ignorant people. All they knew was CHOOHA shape city and BUMB shape tota corolla Xli.

    Auto transmission gas par fail hai.

    No one even knew what steermatic ever meant. All people knew was 1500cc wadday engine aali, upar se auto yaani CNG par fail... lol...

    Even to date, the typical mentality of dealers is "altis kia sahab, itnay baay engine wali car kon leta hai, Xli Gli le kar ayen to phir dekhen..."


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    Quote Originally Posted by itsgumbys View Post
    10 gen 1.8 altas had which engine?
    it had 1zzfe engine

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