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    Default 11th Gen Corolla (Hornet): An Unlucky Affair

    Introducing Corolla GLi 1.3 (Super ECT)
    Asalamoalikum respected PakWheel members and guests.
    Alhamdolillah, Allah has blessed me with this brand new car after I let
    Viper go to its next handler and keeper, after a very satisfying experience of a little over four years. With blessing from Allah (S.W) and friends like you, I hope to make this is a no-nonsense, extremely informative and enjoyable thread just like Viper. This cannot be possible without your support, appreciation, critique, guidance, sharing and participation. So hop in, like and subscribe.

    But, the driving experience has not been anything more than average. The only aspect in which this car stands out (at the moment in Pakistan) is its shape.

    Table of Contents
    1. Introduction and Background ------------------------------ Page 1
    2. Stark Naked Review (The Decision)---------------------- Page 1
    3. True Horror Story (On Fuel Consumption) -------------- Page 1
    4. Review (Exterior Styling, Build Quality)------------------- Page 2
    5. Aerodynamics Verification (Thanks @autophile) ------ Page 2
    6. Review (Interior Styling, Layout and Build Quality) --- Page 3
    7. Comparison Recap ------------------------------------------- Page 4
    8. Performance and Drive Quality ---------------------------- Page 4
    9. Final Thoughts and Wrap Up ------------------------------- Page 5
    10.Teaser Photos ------------------------------------------------- Page 5
    11. Fog Lamps (Options, Variety and Selection) ---------- Page 6
    12. Night Visibility Upgrade Philips CrystalVision -------- Page 7
    13. Decide Between White and Black Colours ------------ Page 7
    14. Stainless Scuff Plates (OEM Toyota) ------------------- Page 9
    15. Combo Utility / Multi Purpose Hook Dock ------------- Page 9
    16. Interior Photo Showing Some Changes --------------- Page 11
    17. Night Time Photography ----------------------------------- Page 11
    18. Fresh Update on Drive and Handling ------------------- Page 12
    19. Photography by @Spano's Galaxy Note 4 ------------ Page 12
    20. Steering Controls (Install Photos and Cost) ----------- Page 13
    21. GLi (Auto) Underpower Myth Busted -------------------- Page 13
    22. Hornet's Climb to Monal (Videos) ------------------------ Page 15
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    Fouad bhai will throw a bombshell surprise very soon. Stay tuned.
    Be polite on the road. Always give way to others, particularly ambulances and pedestrians.

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    @fouadbakht suddenly a question came into my mind, its kind of foolish though but still a qeera is a qeera. is it possible for Gli A/T to spin wheels while you floor it from stand still..

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    Quote Originally Posted by gitts070 View Post
    @fouadbakht suddenly a question came into my mind, its kind of foolish though but still a qeera is a qeera. is it possible for Gli A/T to spin wheels while you floor it from stand still..
    If you rev the engine upto 5000 rpm and then shift from N to D then there will be some wheel spin.

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    You really have excellent writing skills and also have good sense of keeping a ride in good shape.
    Good analysis, updates and video to monal to bust a myth.

    There are 3-4 person on these forum who are trying to convince every other person that this GLI AT is under power by the time when it was not even officially launched.

    Firstly innocent devil and now you have proved them wrong but they won't change their mind no matter what you show them.

    It remind me a joke in which a peer got power to fly, but his wife didn't consider him a good peer.
    Once that peer flies when his wife was watching. When he came home after that, his wife told him what type of peer you are, I witnessed a true peer today who was flying.
    The poor peer told her that that chap was he himself- her husband. She paused for a second and told him, I see, that's the reason it was not a straight flight and tum teRhe Terhe urr rahe the".

    Anyway keep updating us, as I also own a same variant with different color Alhamdilillah.

    Btw, how do you respond to a person who says, "yaar shape to achhi hai but dashboard ne matt mar di gari ki".

    Sent from my A900 using PW Forums mobile app

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    Quote Originally Posted by hussey08 View Post
    If you rev the engine upto 5000 rpm and then shift from N to D then there will be some wheel spin.
    Reminds me of the famous quote
    "any ship can be a minesweeper - but only for once"

    this is the easiest way to ruin an auto trnsmission
    sent from my HD2 without using the handset itself!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzkhan View Post
    You really have excellent writing skills and also have good sense of keeping a ride in good shape.
    Good analysis, updates and video to monal to bust a myth.

    There are 3-4 person on these forum who are trying to convince every other person that this GLI AT is under power by the time when it was not even officially launched.

    Firstly innocent devil and now you have proved them wrong but they won't change their mind no matter what you show them.

    It remind me a joke in which a peer got power to fly, but his wife didn't consider him a good peer.
    Once that peer flies when his wife was watching. When he came home after that, his wife told him what type of peer you are, I witnessed a true peer today who was flying.
    The poor peer told her that that chap was he himself- her husband. She paused for a second and told him, I see, that's the reason it was not a straight flight and tum teRhe Terhe urr rahe the".

    Anyway keep updating us, as I also own a same variant with different color Alhamdilillah.

    Btw, how do you respond to a person who says, "yaar shape to achhi hai but dashboard ne matt mar di gari ki".

    Sent from my A900 using PW Forums mobile app
    Sir you totally missed a thread of GLi AT that was created right after InNoCeNt_DeViL's
    Poor guy did experiments on his new car to put the underpowered argument to shame.
    8th Gen Mitsubishi Lancer 1.3 GLX 2006; 3rd Gen Toyota Prius 1.8 S-Touring 2010; 11th Gen Toyota Corolla 1.3 GLi AT 2014.

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    People have been even saying "underpowered" thing about 9th Gen Corolla, which is not the actual case.
    Be polite on the road. Always give way to others, particularly ambulances and pedestrians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by autophile View Post
    People have been even saying "underpowered" thing about 9th Gen Corolla, which is not the actual case.
    You are absolutely right, I have kept 9th generation corolla for 8 years.. it was absolutely perfect though its handling and brakes were poor.. I hope this time, its not the same..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzkhan View Post
    You really have excellent writing skills and also have good sense of keeping a ride in good shape.
    Good analysis, updates and video to monal to bust a myth.

    There are 3-4 person on these forum who are trying to convince every other person that this GLI AT is under power by the time when it was not even officially launched.

    Firstly innocent devil and now you have proved them wrong but they won't change their mind no matter what you show them.

    It remind me a joke in which a peer got power to fly, but his wife didn't consider him a good peer.
    Once that peer flies when his wife was watching. When he came home after that, his wife told him what type of peer you are, I witnessed a true peer today who was flying.
    The poor peer told her that that chap was he himself- her husband. She paused for a second and told him, I see, that's the reason it was not a straight flight and tum teRhe Terhe urr rahe the".

    Anyway keep updating us, as I also own a same variant with different color Alhamdilillah.

    Btw, how do you respond to a person who says, "yaar shape to achhi hai but dashboard ne matt mar di gari ki".

    Sent from my A900 using PW Forums mobile app

    yesterday i was thinking about the dashboard as well, couldn't come up with any decent argument to justify..

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    Quote Originally Posted by gitts070 View Post
    You are absolutely right, I have kept 9th generation corolla for 8 years.. it was absolutely perfect though its handling and brakes were poor.. I hope this time, its not the same..
    Brakes and handling is lot better. Cant' say about 1.3 as I have 1.6 now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gitts070 View Post
    You are absolutely right, I have kept 9th generation corolla for 8 years.. it was absolutely perfect though its handling and brakes were poor.. I hope this time, its not the same..
    Quote Originally Posted by autophile View Post
    Brakes and handling is lot better. Cant' say about 1.3 as I have 1.6 now.
    9th Gen Corolla Gli/Xli did not have ABS.
    In 11th Gen Corolla, except Xli, all the variants are equipped with ABS+EBD+BA. The braking and handling is very good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aliusman420 View Post
    Sir you totally missed a thread of GLi AT that was created right after InNoCeNt_DeViL's
    Poor guy did experiments on his new car to put the underpowered argument to shame.
    Yes Aliusman,
    I forgot to mention your thread :s

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    Quote Originally Posted by autophile View Post
    Brakes and handling is lot better. Cant' say about 1.3 as I have 1.6 now.
    i have been following your thread closely, i think you took a wise decision off buying 1.6 over 1.3. I am in a same dilemma. I know gli 1.3 is not underpower at all but still i need one good reason to go for 1.6..
    anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gitts070 View Post
    i have been following your thread closely, i think you took a wise decision off buying 1.6 over 1.3. I am in a same dilemma. I know gli 1.3 is not underpower at all but still i need one good reason to go for 1.6..
    anyone?
    The number one reason is better and more powerful and newer engine and with a little price difference. Also it has Japanese 4 speed AT vs Thai 4 speed at in Gli AT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gitts070 View Post
    i have been following your thread closely, i think you took a wise decision off buying 1.6 over 1.3. I am in a same dilemma. I know gli 1.3 is not underpower at all but still i need one good reason to go for 1.6..
    anyone?
    I have posted this before but posting again to help you in choosing your variant in Corolla.

    1.Altis 1.6 has alloys, nav ready infotainment system, Hi Grade fabric seats as mentioned on indus website (Please see),Extra two color Super White and Bronze Mica if you want to opt that and above all dual VVTI 1598cc bigger Engine. you can get after market alloys, infotainment system in the price range of 90k (125k-90k= 35k) but you cant replace 1.3 engine to 1.6 engine in 35k. Price difference between 1.3 Gli A/T and 1.6 Altis A/T is 125k.

    2.It has dual VVTI engine as compared to Single VVTI engine in GLI A/T. As coated by our brother @ausbii

    A. The engine on the 1.6 is not just bigger, it's newer and more efficient both in terms of fuel consumption and power output. NZ-FE(1.3)VVTI series vs ZR-FE(1.6)Dual VVTI.

    B. The transmission on both is 4 speed super ECT but it's not the same. The 1.6 has an Aisin Warner (one of the worlds top transmission manufacturer) A341E original japanese transmission. The 1.3 has a toyota U341e which to the best of my Knowledge is from Thailand. The A341E is much smoother and more reliable. Also to consider is that the u341e is designed for 1.5l engines, not 1.3. It has a first gear ratio almost 1.5 times that of the first in manual gli and a second gear ratio equal to what would be a 2.75 gear of the manual while the third is equal to the fourth on the manual. That is why the 1.3 gli AT is significantly slow off the mark as compared to the gli manual. AT is always slightly slower than manual but the difference is quite significant here. The same specs go to the advantage of the 1.6 as the more powerful engine utilizes the lager gear ratios for a more rapid off the mark acceleration and even slightly better fuel economy than the competitions slower 5 speed with a 100cc smaller engine.

    3.I do not believe that 1.3 Gli is an underpowered car . Many pakwheeler friends are satisfied with their power (you can see @fouadbakht bhai and @aliusman420 bhai thread . I didn't drive 1.3 Gli A/T 11 gen but i thing 1.6 drive will be more joyful as compared to 1.3 drive due to their gear ratio.

    This is my opinion, hope it will help you in buying your car.

    Please see the following post to get more details.
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/cor...61#post4814736

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    1.8 CIVIC with 141HP takes 5.4 seconds and GLI 1.3 with 84HP takes 7 seconds..to reach 0 t0 60KM thats amazing from TOYOTA...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nido747 View Post
    I have posted this before but posting again to help you in choosing your variant in Corolla.

    1.Altis 1.6 has alloys, nav ready infotainment system, Hi Grade fabric seats as mentioned on indus website (Please see),Extra two color Super White and Bronze Mica if you want to opt that and above all dual VVTI 1598cc bigger Engine. you can get after market alloys, infotainment system in the price range of 90k (125k-90k= 35k) but you cant replace 1.3 engine to 1.6 engine in 35k. Price difference between 1.3 Gli A/T and 1.6 Altis A/T is 125k.

    2.It has dual VVTI engine as compared to Single VVTI engine in GLI A/T. As coated by our brother @ausbii

    A. The engine on the 1.6 is not just bigger, it's newer and more efficient both in terms of fuel consumption and power output. NZ-FE(1.3)VVTI series vs ZR-FE(1.6)Dual VVTI.

    B. The transmission on both is 4 speed super ECT but it's not the same. The 1.6 has an Aisin Warner (one of the worlds top transmission manufacturer) A341E original japanese transmission. The 1.3 has a toyota U341e which to the best of my Knowledge is from Thailand. The A341E is much smoother and more reliable. Also to consider is that the u341e is designed for 1.5l engines, not 1.3. It has a first gear ratio almost 1.5 times that of the first in manual gli and a second gear ratio equal to what would be a 2.75 gear of the manual while the third is equal to the fourth on the manual. That is why the 1.3 gli AT is significantly slow off the mark as compared to the gli manual. AT is always slightly slower than manual but the difference is quite significant here. The same specs go to the advantage of the 1.6 as the more powerful engine utilizes the lager gear ratios for a more rapid off the mark acceleration and even slightly better fuel economy than the competitions slower 5 speed with a 100cc smaller engine.

    3.I do not believe that 1.3 Gli is an underpowered car . Many pakwheeler friends are satisfied with their power (you can see @fouadbakht bhai and @aliusman420 bhai thread . I didn't drive 1.3 Gli A/T 11 gen but i thing 1.6 drive will be more joyful as compared to 1.3 drive due to their gear ratio.

    This is my opinion, hope it will help you in buying your car.

    Please see the following post to get more details.
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/cor...61#post4814736
    nice insight. i didnt expect their super ect transmission to be different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinking View Post
    nice insight. i didnt expect their super ect transmission to be different.
    Sir it is different. please lift the trunk of both car and read the transaxle models on the trunk plate below the speakers by yourself. You will find it that these two tranny posses Super ect Transmission but different transmission maker

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    Quote Originally Posted by autophile View Post
    People have been even saying "underpowered" thing about 9th Gen Corolla, which is not the actual case.
    I have driven cars with much slugish response but the thing I felt while driving 10 corolla xli that its engine isnt smooth enough

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