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    Salam to all the PAKWHEELERS.

    Today I hav some street racing stuff with me to share with u all. It was safe for sure because it was late yesterday nite and the place is ISB HIGHWAY. Its from ISB to RWP.

    I have SANTRO CLUB GV. I did unorganized RACE with COURE, ALTO, AUTO VITZ and MANUAL VITZ and did organize RACE with AUTO VITZ and COURE with some SPECIAL SPARK PLUGS on it. It was just to TEST the car on CNG and nothing else. But I had never experience of SUZUKI CULTUS personally.

    I heard from PW members that CULTUS can’t beat SANTRO but from those who OWNS CULTUS, they claims that CULTUS has got UPPER HAND as its TOP SPEED is 200 and SANTRO has only 180 KM.

    Now coming to the point, when coming back from BLUE AREA, a CULTUS guy passes me in a VERY HIGH speed as there was no TRAFFIC at all at that time. Luckily the SIGNAL before ZERO POINT was RED and he stops there, so as I. Now my car was parallel to the CULTUS and the driver of CULTUS was in AGGRESSIVE mood also. He was revving the engine constantly very hard and wants to turn it on. I was also interested as I never did DRAG with CULTUS before.

    Now the SIGNAL turns into GREEN, we started our cars FURIOUSLY. CULTUS remains PARALLEL to SANTRO at first gear and it also did well on 2nd GEAR but reaching at HIGH RPM on 2nd gear, the distance b/w the cars gradually starts creating. And it was SANTRO who stays ahead and remains ahead form its direct RIVAL which we consider.


    Well it is the interesting one for me atleast . It is not as 2.0D SALOON vs MAZDA RX-8. Now what u all says about it ???

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    @ mani,,,,,,,,,,,,very well explained
    ammar

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    @hamdani_08
    @s55
    @mani1

    WELL WELL WELL

    Its 3 vs 1

    Lest c who hav enough GUTS to prove some thing.

    Look at INTERNATIONAL VERSION of CULTUS and SANTRO now.

    SWIFT has got EFi now but not in PAKSUZUKI and HYUNDAI GETZ has EFi as well.

    Ur CULTUS will shift into EFi later when new model will LAUNCH. CULTUS will follow SANTRO. U all knows it. Unfortunately i hav to mention it aswell. But not in the case of SANTRO.

    U all are stuck at 1980's and PAKSUZUKI captures ur life TOO. As u can't able to differeciate b/w OLD and NEW.

    And still u all r appreciating OLD TECHNOLOGY.

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    I am very sad to say that debating with you is a utter waste of time.
    I mean you just shift from one point to another.
    When I countered your points regarding performance and sales of cultus, instead of replying or admitting that you were wrong you just jump to completely another topic.

    Theres nothing wrong in admitting that you were wrong.
    I in my previous post completely proved your 'efi is better' theory and 'santro is faster' theory wrong.

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    rofl

    dude what role does cultus has in faliure of pakistan?

    I mean cmon yaar take it easy.....chalo santro is better. be happy

    and btw this cultus isnt 1980s technology...I can prove it but anyways leave it...there no use doing it

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    I think u all forgot that i make this POST after SMOKING the CULTUS.

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    I m not shifting.

    My points r still waiting for reply. U better check it again

    mani1 wrote

    Theres nothing wrong in admitting that you were wrong.
    I in my previous post completely proved your 'efi is better' theory and 'santro is faster' theory wrong.



    U agree that EFi is better but can't accept it.

    Do u know HP of CULTUS and SANTRO ???

    CULTUS 52 BHP and SANTRO 55 BHP.

    Any doubt now ???

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    lol
    yaar plz stop acting like a kid
    u havnt dragged in ur life and u overtook a random cultus(who I m sure wasnt even racing eith u) and now u claim santro is faster. I mean lameness ki had hote hai

    and all your points have been proven wrong in my previous post. lol @ shifting

    and stop posting the hp figs.....read my previous post
    and where did I said santro efi is better? are u outta ur mind?

    and as I said before debating with u is complete waste of time....ill leave u here,,,,and yeh santro is better NOT...rofl

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    I m well MATURE, today i overtook BMW 7-series aswell but i didn't say that because i know the other car's specs and other driver's style of driving.

    The CULTUS driver was PUSHING HARDER and HARDER at that time. I saw it. And alas it can't beat SANTRO.

    The CULTUS scene was occured at ISLAMABAD HIGHWAY and at the speed of 140 km CULTUS was still following me.

    And i didn't even change my lane so as the CULTUS driver.

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    mani wrote

    and stop posting the hp figs.....read my previous post

    @mani1

    U r trying to say HP doesn't matter ???

    So can u smoke RX-8 with ur CULTUS ???

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    I had made my mind not to reply further but now that you have asked a good question Ill answer.

    First of all dude I do not trust these HP figures.
    Let me give you an example.
    1.6GLI(approx 110hp) easily beats VTI(approx 130hp)
    I agree its a very controversial topic but I have owned both and I know GLI easily wins. Anyways can you explain why with a lower hp figure it wins?

    Secondly its not the HP figures that matters. Actually it is

    1)WHP
    2)WHP/Weight ratio
    3)Traction/Suspension settings
    4)Drivers' shifting ability
    5)Power band
    6)transmission
    etc

    Discussion on all these topics is too long. In short answer to all these paper work is practical experience which I posted in my post on 2nd post which u never bothered to read. And there I also challenged u to a race jis mein bhe u never replied. I would challenge u once again. Come and race me if u have the guts. I have three cars ready for u. modded cultus, petrol cultus, cng cultus....

    and theres a question for u

    a 1.3 cultus(100hp) easily beats ur rx8(around 230 hp)
    incase u dont agree u can search for vids alla round the net and recently the green khyber/cultus of lahore also ra*** many rx8s


    figure out how? hint is there in my post.
    It is my request to other members not to answer this

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    @mani1

    BTW. I was asking about ur STOCK 1.0L cultus. Can it beat RX-8 ??? Reply YES or NO

    Yes i agree that there involves TORQUE figures also which makes a hell of difference.

    But in this case TORQUE figures are again in the favour of SANTRO.

    U hav to accept now that U R A DIE HEART LOVER OF CULTUS.

    And again u r shifting towards MODIFICATION category. Here we r discussing about STOCK performance and on CNG as well. Isn't it ???

    mani1 wrote

    Discussion on all these topics is too long. In short answer to all these paper work is practical experience which I posted in my post on 2nd post which u never bothered to read. And there I also challenged u to a race jis mein bhe u never replied. I would challenge u once again. Come and race me if u have the guts. I have three cars ready for u. modded cultus, petrol cultus, cng cultus....

    and theres a question for u


    Well i did atleast reply for the challege. U can come here in ISLAMABD in ur stock CNG CULTUS if u hav GUTS ???


    And LISTEN, read my previous posts and u will find out DOZENS of my questions r still pending ???


    And still u 3 people can't able to reply them. Isn't it ???

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    @mani1

    And 1 of ur partner s55 gives up earlier because of valid points. Do check it also. below is the very good statement from ur side.

    @u4usman4u
    what can i say man, i am speechless!!!
    only three words
    just go for a ride!!!

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    @all pakwheelsers
    i have cultus since 2000 june
    i have a great experince to drive it
    i have a marketing field work of pso lubes or castrol oils at interior of sindh(tando jam,tando allehyar,tando gulab laghari,mitthi ,mirpur khas,and whole thar parker there is no proper roads to drive only mir pur have good road
    (is gari ko aik aik feet ka khadday say guzara hai at speed of 80 -90 magar kabhi koi shikayat nahee hui hai
    yesterday mainy "nabiser" ka tour kya tha mujhe nahee pata tha kay wahaan road ban raha hai to wahaan ka poora road scrap kerdiya hai 60km ki scrap hui sarak pay 2 ghuntay drive ki gari taqreeban 30 - 35 km ki speed say chalaee laikin gari dheet ban kay chalti rahi
    street racing to mainay kabhi ki nahee magar field work kay liye cultus is best
    santro dheet gari nahee hai mere Colleague kay paas hai woh rota hi rehta hai kabhi axle kabhi streeing main kaam nikal ta rehta hai aik bar "moro" main us ki gari ki streeing ki tie rode toot gae thi aisi kio shikayat cultus main nahee aai
    PROUD OF BEING PAKWHEELER...........!

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    @syed_avais

    U may be right. Who knows???

    But SUZUKI problems (which includes alto, bolan, cultus and mehran) r above our IMAGINATION.

    The CLEAR Proof is here.

    https://www.pakwheels.com/forumreply...mID!24~pw.html

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    @u4usman4u
    i m just talking about my personal and practical experince
    how much the average of cng on santro ?
    my cultus cng average is 180km on rupees 250 at long drive
    sari baat ye hai jo gari jis kay haath pay set hojay woh us hi ko prefer kerta hai
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    no more discussion
    PROUD OF BEING PAKWHEELER...........!

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    no more
    I'm a freak who lost his mind in the busy world of today and takes his frustration by being funny with others

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    @syed_avais

    Nice reply. I appreciate that u raise question of ECONOMY also

    Totally agrees with ur previous statement

    sari baat ye hai jo gari jis kay haath pay set hojay woh us hi ko prefer kerta hai

    There is a single request for u. Do tell us about the CAPACITY of CNG CYLINDER also.

    My SANTRO did 175 KM on MOTORWAY at RS 220. And my driving style was AGGRESIVE also at that time. I don't like to drive like BABA STYLE at HIGHWAYS.

    About the cylinders of CNG ? There r 3 mini cylinders in SANTRO each is 14 KG thats make it total of 42 KG. And it is some what better because PAKSUZUKI fits 40 KG of CNG CYLINDER at ALTO, MEHRAN and CULTUS. I was talking about factory fitted.

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    roflmao ... (h)

    this is wht that i have got from this thread ...

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    @ usman

    i think u have some severe complexes about having a santro and therefore u trying to defend this car no matter what the discussion is

    SO MY ADVICE TO YOU WUD BE TO BUY A CULTUS ,,,SO THAT U CAN GET OVER UR COMPLEXES
    ammar

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