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    Default which engine is powerful??? Cultus or Alto

    Alto & Cultus are the two 1000cc cars produced by PakSuzuki. The question is, both comes with almost 1.0 liter engine with Alto having 4 cylinders producing about 62bhp while Cultus having just 3 cylinders and produce 55bhp.
    so which engine is more powerful?? the one producing 62bhp having 1 cylinder more than the one producing 55bhp with 3 cyls???
    if tc=p then hc=m where tc is equal to toyota corolla and p is equal to paindu, and hc is equal to honda civic and m is equal to moron

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    Alto drive is an addiction even though old engine.
    and cheap looking car.
    does any body knows the 0-100kms of both cars?

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    It will be a close race ! It will depend more on the driver.

    If you want to compare engines fairly, then tell two or three people to sit in alto other than the driver while the cultus will only have driver in it.

    Then I'll see who wins ! Its just a fair ENGINE COMPARISON, not FASTER CAR COMPARISON !
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    Cultus all the way(y)
    my rides.....!!!.AE90 4AFE supercharged nitrous.........!!!.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhNhlNoYq8s......!!!civic 3g hatch B20 almotor nitrous............!!!intgera B18b LS Vtec nitrous

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    Cultus is more faster than ALTO..

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    Alto engine is frm a 20Year old Engine Design of Potohar Jeep which failed miserably in 4x4 cuz of lack of power ! Engine code is F10A !

    Cultus may be one cylinder short but is a torquey engine and is in every way different. Abt the noise, it has something to do with timing chain/belt and sound of engine changes from 3CYL - 4CYL ! Experts can confirm that !
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    alto's engine is more powerful for sure.and when the car is in motion, it is surely FASTER than cultus.
    CULTUS means "kaal thuss."
    ie kaal car tuss ho jay gi.
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    but one thing ,
    in my opinion cultus sucks with AC on CNG only,
    but on petrol it is a nice car, no problem

    I think it should have 1.0 efi or Margalla's 1.3 engine ,
    but unfortunately our poor paksuzuki has no plans to do it.
    they r still using 15 years old engines in both of these cars.
    bcos these both cars has good resale,
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    @Haceeb(Y)
    Excellent Evaluation.
    Except this that 3 or 5 cylinder give less engine vibration than 4 cylinders because of different speed of top end and bottom end piston cycles. 4 cylinder engine is balanced with additional mechanics.

    (details here)
    Aftermath...be prepared

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    @ alto
    u can say for drag race , alto is better,
    but at higher speeds, cultus has better road grip than alto, becos at higher speed alto starts vibrating, so cultus will take lead!!!!!!!!!
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    lot of people here are giving useless statements based on their personal likes and dislikes. only haceeb gave some logical reasons.. i remind u, the topic is about which car has a powerful engine and that how different number of cylinders producing different bhp can be compared??
    if tc=p then hc=m where tc is equal to toyota corolla and p is equal to paindu, and hc is equal to honda civic and m is equal to moron

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    haceeb is correct, alto is more powerful
    now lets compare cultus with mehran ..

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    Couple of more questions

    1) can a cultus/alto beat a Corvetter ?? viper ? or perhaps a Ferrari ??

    2) can i put a b16 in an alto ??

    3) i have cng in my cultus ? can i put nitrous also ?both are gasses rite

    4) Can Forced induction be applied to my alto ??

    5) Open challenge to all HONDA owners , have a race with me i`ll will spank ur a**..



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    1 more abhi yaad aya ..

    6) im selling my 2004 ALTO and im demanding 7 lacs for it , it has cng , mint condition , new rims and tires ( garee baichnee thee to daalay hain abhi ) , type R stickers , VERY GUD FOR STREET RACES WITH rikshaws

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    alto is more powerful

    i kick a vitz on my alto (when on runing)

    vitz is also on petrol...

    n beat cultus on motorway on cng ....

    thora sa beaking problem ha wo bi when u apply sudden brakes.....

    kia alto may 4 wheel disk breaks nahi lag sakti ....

    coz alto kay rear wheel ki breaks automatic adjustable hain thats y after sometime they got loozed n rear wheel cant grip in sudden breaks.....

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    @garrisonian
    oh then c u at the racing track
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    u r the man.
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    @lotus bhai,

    Your question was "Which engine is (more) powerful??? Cultus or Alto"

    Some how the disussion deviated towards which car is faster.

    The enigine is the pwoerplant of the car. In that context Alto has a more powerful engine than Cultus.

    But what transfers that power to the car's wheels is the car's transmission (also known as tranny), of which your gearbox is a part of.

    The more refined a tranny, the more power transferred to the wheels and more efficiently. That is the actual power made available to be utilised.

    Cultus has a much better tranny than an Alto. But that difference is offset by Cultus's heavier body.

    So on the street, I believe, it boils down to the man behind the wheels which determines which car will win.

    I have a Cultus-VXL 2006, its on petrol and tuned for the same. I have commuted many times on the highway from (Karachi to Hyderabad) and I don't recall a single instance where I couldn't pass an Alto whenever I wanted to. However I have had a tough time with Cuores. I have been able to pass them on most occaissions but not as easily as I could an Alto.

    Cuore has a superb tranny.

    I am planning to buy another car and eventually retire my 20 year old (and trusted) FX. Its either going to be a Chery QQ or a Cuore or a Vitz (if I can save up the cash for it, the other two I can lease easily).

    Cultus, if run with A/C off and on petrol, has a pretty good response. Especially in the higher RPM regimes. It is more of a long distance runner than a sprinter. It is easier to maintain higher speeds for a longer period on a Cultus than on an Alto due to better road grip and a more efficient tranny.

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    sorry i checked this thread after a long while.. i must say excellent reply by aliyusuf.
    if tc=p then hc=m where tc is equal to toyota corolla and p is equal to paindu, and hc is equal to honda civic and m is equal to moron

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    cultus !!!!

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    they both are same engines in fact. Just a matter of vehicle weight. Refer to PW Cars (Pakistan) section and compare torque and HP of both.

    Suzuki Alto

    Displacement
    Cylinder Layout
    Max. Output (ps / rpm)
    Max. Torque (kg-m / rpm)
    970cc
    In-line 3
    55/5,500

    8.5/2,500

    Suzuki Cultus

    Type


    Cylinders
    Piston displacement (cc)
    Bore x stroke (mm)
    Compression ratio
    Max. output (ps/rpm)
    Max. torque (Kg-m)/rpm)
    Fuel distribution
    G10B Water-cooled Four Stroke SOHC with Hydraulic Valve Lash Adjuster
    In-line 3
    993
    74.0 x 77.0
    9.5 : 1
    55/5800
    8.5/3000
    Carburetor

    Different peak torque indicates that they are timed differently despite similar block displacement and cylinder. The alto engine overall looks more powerful by having peak torque at 500rpm less than cultus

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    i am not a suzuki person but i think both engines are somehow same but gear ratios on both cars make them feel very different. he we swap the two engines among alto and cultus with same old old transmissions, results will be very clear
    Keep a cool head and wear seatbelts!

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    me wid Alto
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