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    Hi Guys,

    I have bought Mira ES 2012 grade 5 vehicle. Everything is very good. But when i was purchasing the car everybody told me that it gives 18+ Km/L. But the meter is showing me 12 km/L. Its been one month and i have done everything that any one has told me, from air filter change till plugs cleaning etc. But still its giving me around 12 +- Km/L. If its not giving me at least 18 than it is disappointing me as i would have gone to Passo 1000cc. Any suggestion how and what should i doo..???


    Mira ES milage -1552609Mira ES milage -1552610


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    Quote Originally Posted by khalid7shafqat View Post
    Have you tried using 0w oils ??
    when i purchase my car ,0w20 was already inside car's engine ,drive was very smooth, fuel consumption was also great ,because it is for new engines ,Very thin oil ,In japan they use it for cold weather ,for easy start up ,even at side door of my cars; 3 stickers are dispatched of said oil veloscity with duration of change ,then i tried to search and found ,it suites only japan temp ,in our country ,where temp get rise in summer ,It wouldn't fill engine requirement .therefore i changed it to 5w30 in winter ,and for now 10w30 ,

    P.S this is from my low knowledge .

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    Quote Originally Posted by samins69 View Post
    @imrananr

    Dear, do the following:

    1) Replace air filter ( if not done)
    2) Replace engine oil to Zic 0W30 grade oil.
    3) Re-set the ECU

    To reset ecu, do the following:

    1) Warm engine at idle, and switch off the engine and remove the key.
    2) Remove the negative (-ive) terminal battery cable for 20 minutes.
    3) Connect back the negative battery terminal.
    4) Switch ON the ignition for 5 sec but do not start.
    5) Switch off the ignition.
    6) Switch ON and start the engine and let the engine warm-up.
    7) Switch ON the AC for 10 sec and then switch off the AC.
    8) with foot on brake and hand brake engaged, put transmission selection on D (drive) for 10 sec and then back to P parking)
    9) Switch OFF the engine.
    10) Take the vehicle on drive very slowly at a speed of 40 to 50 for about 15 minutes.

    All done, you will get best average after ecu reset.


    Dear imrananr,
    Will the same ecu reset procedure (described by you as above) be equally good to get better mileage from 2004 Vitz 1000cc and 2006 Fielder 1500cc (40th Anniversary) with Odo 155k and 175k respectively without having any new issues ... kindly inform with thanks.
    I reckon it should be. Please also note the following:

    Fuel consumption also depends on the engine oil viscosity grade being used. The lesser the viscosity, the better the mileage. Now, you should always follow manufacturers recommendations. For example, the recommended oil viscosity for 1000 cc Vitz is 0w20, 5w20 and 5w30. With engines that have crossed 100,000 KM, a thicker oil is recommended due to high milage with increased clearances between moving parts due to wear and tear. Hence, I would use 5w30 or 0w40 in 1000 vitz which has done 155,000 on the odo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by feeziali View Post
    0W30 , Not suggested for our pak weather ,he should use 5W30 or for hot summer 10W30 , ZERO'W is for cold weather .in Japan they use 0w20 for -20 Degr temp weather.
    Dear feez, please be informed that the figure 30 in 0W30 covers the hot summer temperature which we experience in Pakistan.
    Also note that 70% of wear and tear of an engine takes place from cold start up of an engine till it achieves normal operating temperature. With modern engines in place, the clearances between the moving parts of an engine have gone down and the manufacturer has recommended thinner oils accordingly. Thinner oils move fast to all the engines parts (during cold start up) to prevent wear and tear when compared to a relatively thicker oil.
    Unfortunately, we in Pakistan still think that wear and tear of an engine takes place while it's hot (normal operating temperature) and a thicker oil is best for engine life.
    Thicker oil (multi grade like 0W50) are used where cars are used for racing or towing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by feeziali View Post
    when i purchase my car ,0w20 was already inside car's engine ,drive was very smooth, fuel consumption was also great ,because it is for new engines ,Very thin oil ,In japan they use it for cold weather ,for easy start up ,even at side door of my cars; 3 stickers are dispatched of said oil veloscity with duration of change ,then i tried to search and found ,it suites only japan temp ,in our country ,where temp get rise in summer ,It wouldn't fill engine requirement .therefore i changed it to 5w30 in winter ,and for now 10w30 ,

    P.S this is from my low knowledge .
    Lemme clear it up bro, from my limited knowledge

    0w oils indicate cold start temp. So a thinner oil flows easily in winters. It has nothing to do with out summers as the suffix is the same "30"
    Only reason you are not recommended 0w oils is ... they are not available, they are more expensive, they have virtually no benefit here

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    Quote Originally Posted by imrananr View Post
    Dear feez, please be informed that the figure 30 in 0W30 covers the hot summer temperature which we experience in Pakistan.
    Also note that 70% of wear and tear of an engine takes place from cold start up of an engine till it achieves normal operating temperature. With modern engines in place, the clearances between the moving parts of an engine have gone down and the manufacturer has recommended thinner oils accordingly. Thinner oils move fast to all the engines parts (during cold start up) to prevent wear and tear when compared to a relatively thicker oil.
    Unfortunately, we in Pakistan still think that wear and tear of an engine takes place while it's hot (normal operating temperature) and a thicker oil is best for engine life.
    Thicker oil (multi grade like 0W50) are used where cars are used for racing or towing.
    Imran ,bro

    So what you suggest,? Right now i 've switched to 10W30 Oil ,for this summer .

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    Quote Originally Posted by khalid7shafqat View Post
    Lemme clear it up bro, from my limited knowledge

    0w oils indicate cold start temp. So a thinner oil flows easily in winters. It has nothing to do with out summers as the suffix is the same "30"
    Only reason you are not recommended 0w oils is ... they are not available, they are more expensive, they have virtually no benefit here
    Thank you for your kind information ,now i got it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by feeziali View Post
    when i purchase my car ,0w20 was already inside car's engine ,drive was very smooth, fuel consumption was also great ,because it is for new engines ,Very thin oil ,In japan they use it for cold weather ,for easy start up ,even at side door of my cars; 3 stickers are dispatched of said oil veloscity with duration of change ,then i tried to search and found ,it suites only japan temp ,in our country ,where temp get rise in summer ,It wouldn't fill engine requirement .therefore i changed it to 5w30 in winter ,and for now 10w30 ,

    P.S this is from my low knowledge .
    I use the following oil:
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    [QUOTE=feeziali;4736837]Imran ,bro

    So what you suggest,? Right now i 've switched to 10W30 Oil ,for this summer .[/

    You may use it for the time, but change to 5W30 during next oil change.
    If you want good mileage then use 0W30.
    Every body has got his own opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imrananr View Post
    I use the following oil:
    How much for this 4 lit pack ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by khalid7shafqat View Post
    How much for this 4 lit pack ??
    Why ask the price Khalid as you have earlier said that these oils have virtually no benefit here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imrananr View Post
    Why ask the price Khalid as you have earlier said that these oils have virtually no benefit here.
    Cx in theory it won't work.
    And if its priced somewhere around Liqui moly 5w30, I'll give it a try and see for myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khalid7shafqat View Post
    Cx in theory it won't work.
    And if its priced somewhere around Liqui moly 5w30, I'll give it a try and see for myself.
    Why waste money on this bro. You should stick to 10W's. Apart from this it's summer buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imrananr View Post
    I use the following oil:
    can you confirm the manufacturing date not this bottle? i use mobil 1 0W-40 mostly as the one you have is pretty rare and the ones i saw had two year old manufacturing date
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    imran bro

    is it made in usa ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imrananr View Post
    Why waste money on this bro. You should stick to 10W's. Apart from this it's summer buddy.
    Haha ap tu mind kr gaye bhae

    I use 5ws. That is a recommended oil viscosity for 1KR engines aswell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feeziali View Post
    imran bro

    is it made in usa ?
    Yes, it's made in USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arzaam.bhatti View Post
    can you confirm the manufacturing date not this bottle? i use mobil 1 0W-40 mostly as the one you have is pretty rare and the ones i saw had two year old manufacturing date
    I'll check that out later (tomorrow). I am lethargic to got out to the garage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arzaam.bhatti View Post
    can you confirm the manufacturing date not this bottle? i use mobil 1 0W-40 mostly as the one you have is pretty rare and the ones i saw had two year old manufacturing date
    Do you use Mobil 1 New Life 0W40 or the conventional one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by khalid7shafqat View Post
    Haha ap tu mind kr gaye bhae

    I use 5ws. That is a recommended oil viscosity for 1KR engines aswell.
    No bro, nothing like that. Actually, I think "jiss galee main nahin Jana to uss ka rasita puchanain ka kia faida".
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    Quote Originally Posted by imrananr View Post
    No bro, nothing like that. Actually, I think "jiss galee main nahin Jana to uss ka rasita puchanain ka kia faida".
    Like i said. If it costs around the same price range, I ll give it a shot. But kher na bataen, no masla

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