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    Salam Mates

    Cplpro@pw, ahmer Shah, has been a real close friend of mine for quite some time on pakwheels along with Kevin, Smartboy, Maggi and Qureshi498 from karachi

    We have dealt alot on pakwheels and its always been trouble free.

    Recently i was looking for a Alpine Type R subwoofer for which i asked my karachi friends to help me out. Cplpro sourced out one subwoofer for me
    with the following description (he can aruge if i exaggerate)
    Original , unrepaired, dual 2 ohm, with box without jumper leads, good condition

    despite this description , i insisted uptill the moment of money transfer that check the subwoofer for any faults in detail and his responce was

    befikar raho , sub check kar liya hai

    Now when the subwoofer arrived today, it has
    Permanent damge on cone, which i wasnt told abt before

    a reglued cone, with samad bond traces still visible

    and a opened spider, screw driver wear and tear marks all over

    (i get a totally in n out repaired sub for 14.5k which is worth only 7-8k in my books)

    U guys be the judge, the seller is invited to dispute any of the above statements speaking truth and acting like a true muslim

    Proof Pictures will b attached soon with labeling


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    ^^ yes and what im saying is that when you call someone a cheat,liar and fraud publicly you will never get a positive response.
    even a cheat doesn't being called a cheat.so this whole issue should never have been made public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague27 View Post
    ^^ yes and what im saying is that when you call someone a cheat,liar and fraud publicly you will never get a positive response.
    even a cheat doesn't being called a cheat.so this whole issue should never have been made public.
    agar spl bhai is problem ko punlic pay na latay to hum ma say koi aur phr wo banda kisi aur ko fraud laga jata. in my opinion spl has done right to bring it on public forum.

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    Its appearing different than it is, 5k wont make me rich, its just a penalty to bring what i got in the first place to its correct price

    The first day i got it, i got intouch wid him

    responce: bad luck jani , aisa hota hai mein kya kar sakta hun


    After which i posted this thread

    responce: ready to compensate, but not the correct amount

    Now atleast Pw knows abt him, what kind of dealing is he doing, some one trusts you with his money and friendship, and u tell him its ur fault why did u trust me ?

    So ill try the final resort now , if it works well n gud if not, i didnt lose anything , its the seller who lost all his respect

    ( abt the convo posts, they have been done, and whatever updates i post, are done when the seller says do as u wish and is not cooperating any more). I cant waste my time on trying to call n convince him daily
    "A person's tongue can give you the taste of his heart."
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    cplpro ab in paison se Lamborghini kharidey ga kya......Tu kha Le bachey ye fraud k paisey Nikal hi aein ge wapis...
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    As you have already brought him in Public which has affected his reputation alot. I guess this much on PakWheels is enough for his punishment. No need to use influences or whatever u are telling us about, you have already f***d his reputation!

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    That's a real shame ...i Feel sorry for you bro ..It must hv hurt by getting ripped of from someone u trust ..... I hv dealt many times online with strangers even on pw but Alhumdulilah never encounter any fraud like this ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by getscorpion View Post
    That's a real shame ...i Feel sorry for you bro ..It must hv hurt by getting ripped of from someone u trust ..... I hv dealt many times online with strangers even on pw but Alhumdulilah never encounter any fraud like this ...

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    neither had i expected it bro, all good in past
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    mods can u pls close this thread? it is very clear to everyone here that buying/ selling on pakwheels has nothing to do with pakwheels and is the sole responsibility of the buyer and seller to choose and decide. its pakwheels not some geo tv program on air. and those who are enjoying it, grow up guys...

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    He won't even refund 2K to compensate... He knew from the start that the sub is repaired.
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    I'd rather have this not getting ugly.
    If it all ends well amicably, I believe keeping a cool head is well worth it.

    Fighting, insulting, involving third parties- never worth it. Trust me on this, been there done that.

    Try to negotiate more. i know its not your fault and it probably irks you to no limit being wronged and still being nice, but its what makes you human, what makes you civilized. Men talk, animals fight.

    I remember reading that he was facing financial constraints, yet he was ready to pay in installments etc. Why not have a later date and instead take a lump sum from all those installments gathered?

    Online/telephonic discussions are never as effective as face to face talking.
    I understand you two are miles apart, but you can always have a representative.

    I will be back in Karachi in a week or so, and I can volunteer to go and talk to him on your behalf.
    He owes you this at least, a meet up and a civilized discussion to peacefully resolve this.
    This is a forum, there are many different members here and I hope I am not the only one who feels this way.
    Maybe I can have a few other volunteers to come with me and talk it out with him over a cup of tea.
    I'll pay

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaniDK View Post
    cplpro ab in paison se Lamborghini kharidey ga kya......Tu kha Le bachey ye fraud k paisey Nikal hi aein ge wapis...
    hahahha abay haram ho jo fraud k paisey khaey ho ek rupiya bhi...yeh shuq mei hai k meine paisey khaey hai lolx krney do shuq shuq wtf !!

    na time dia gia na waqt per paisey jald bazi usman bhai ki unhey dooba le gaey !!
    ab banda bhaag gaya tw mei kia kro....why should i only bear the loss...!!

    yha tuk k mera phone number bhi kisi ko dedia gaya jo k mere parents k samney mujhe phone per zaleel krta hai even facebook per bhi topic banaya inho ne....
    aur soch rakhtey hai k mei inhey 5k do wah kaisi dosti pheley kaam tw dekho dost bhi bola aur fraudia bhi jor dia saath wo tw sharafat hai meri k 2k bhi de rha ho itna kuch sunney k baad !!
    !!! Stop Tryng Be Me...Bcoz I'm Some One U Cant Be ( : !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shahid217 View Post
    He won't even refund 2K to compensate... He knew from the start that the sub is repaired.
    i didn't know it was repaired br0 !!
    i am ready to refund 2k ASAp if he gave me signal !!
    !!! Stop Tryng Be Me...Bcoz I'm Some One U Cant Be ( : !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by navalfaisal View Post
    mods can u pls close this thread? it is very clear to everyone here that buying/ selling on pakwheels has nothing to do with pakwheels and is the sole responsibility of the buyer and seller to choose and decide. its pakwheels not some geo tv program on air. and those who are enjoying it, grow up guys...
    Take a chill pill man... Its not PW's responsibility but the buyer is responsible to let the members aware of such situation(s).
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    i have nothing to do here... its just tht such discussions do not belong here at pakwheels... someone did wrong and now everybody knows about it... end of story... if he wants to pay him back, he will.. if he does not want to, then no one on planet earth can make him pay... sorry if i offend someone but thts the reality.. he is a bad guy to deal with... point taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by navalfaisal View Post
    i have nothing to do here... its just tht such discussions do not belong here at pakwheels... someone did wrong and now everybody knows about it... end of story... if he wants to pay him back, he will.. if he does not want to, then no one on planet earth can make him pay... sorry if i offend someone but thts the reality.. he is a bad guy to deal with... point taken.
    It do belong here, PW is like a family and there are ups and downs in relations of family members so one cant say that Family is not allowing to discuss em in the central hall, no?
    My dear ALLAH when I loose hope, help me to remember that Your love is greater than my disappointment and Your plans for my life are better than my Dreams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by navalfaisal View Post
    i have nothing to do here... its just tht such discussions do not belong here at pakwheels... someone did wrong and now everybody knows about it... end of story... if he wants to pay him back, he will.. if he does not want to, then no one on planet earth can make him pay... sorry if i offend someone but thts the reality.. he is a bad guy to deal with... point taken.
    brother i have dealth with several pw members no one has ever complained...i'm shocked now how can't any1 has guts to say k yes i dealth with ahmer nd it end up successfully...
    i have deal successfully so far with lafafa , enerlevel , sh3zil , mohsin129 , Dr smiley , mafzaltareen , 1234567890 , smartboy_am , yusuf , dj_demon...many many more

    nd in the end splfanatic...
    i want to refund 2k lekin usman bhai pata nahi kia chah rhaey hai yaaar
    hud ho gaey ..
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    you forgot my name mate

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    hahahha abay haram ho jo fraud k paisey khaey ho ek rupiya bhi...yeh shuq mei hai k meine paisey khaey hai lolx krney do shuq shuq wtf !!

    na time dia gia na waqt per paisey jald bazi usman bhai ki unhey dooba le gaey !!
    ab banda bhaag gaya tw mei kia kro....why should i only bear the loss...!!

    yha tuk k mera phone number bhi kisi ko dedia gaya jo k mere parents k samney mujhe phone per zaleel krta hai even facebook per bhi topic banaya inho ne....
    aur soch rakhtey hai k mei inhey 5k do wah kaisi dosti pheley kaam tw dekho dost bhi bola aur fraudia bhi jor dia saath wo tw sharafat hai meri k 2k bhi de rha ho itna kuch sunney k baad !! __________________
    i didn't know it was repaired br0 !!
    i am ready to refund 2k ASAp if he gave me signal !!
    if youre saying you were also unaware of the condition of the speakers and gave to him without checking,then next time both of should view the product before buying.

    as i mentioned before humiliating a friend in public inorder to pressure him to give your money back is extremely childish.if it was a lets say a car then you could have posted online warning other people, that too only if all communications broke down.not several hours later like you did.

    give him the money,dont wait for his signal and get it over with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague27 View Post
    if youre saying you were also unaware of the condition of the speakers and gave to him without checking,then next time both of should view the product before buying.

    as i mentioned before humiliating a friend in public inorder to pressure him to give your money back is extremely childish.if it was a lets say a car then you could have posted online warning other people, that too only if all communications broke down.not several hours later like you did.

    give him the money,dont wait for his signal and get it over with.
    yeah br0 i also want to...
    usman message me ur bank details i'll send u 2k first thing in the morning !!
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    yeah br0 i also want to...
    usman message me ur bank details i'll send u 2k first thing in the morning !!
    well done.

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