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    I just bought a Mehran 2014 Registered in LHR. I decided to transfer this car my own name. I reached Excise office FSD where Bahir Wala *Commission Agent* told me to go and buy TO form. I just go there and there were 4 counters and 4th one was responsible to issue the TO Form for the car registered in other cities. I just show him Car Reg and asked him to issue me a TO form. Then he asked me to bring the seller (first owner) because we have to issue the TO form to the first owner only. I told him i want to transfer it to my own name and have all the documents then why i should bring him here and this is not the rule which he is telling me. Then he refused to listen. Then i go out and consult with Bahir wala and he told me i need to pay 10000 (5000 Advance Income Tax + 2000 Misc exps + 3000 their charges even better to say bribe) to get it registered. Then i paid the amount and hand over the documents to Bahir Wala and he asked me i can get it back in 4 days. Just to inform even if we are going to pay Taxes to this bloody govt. then why even we are forced to pay bribe to these bloody excise dept. I am totally fed up and seriously praying some one should hanged these all LOOTAIRAY including govt and must also seized their all assets and bank accounts and there should be no mercy for them.


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    law is they will issue TO only to the owner(whose name the car is registered to)
    since you failed to produce the original owner you had no option but use touts
    Life is short and very unpredictable just like a Quarter mile .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasimcheema View Post
    Asslam o Alaikum;


    I just bought a Mehran 2014 Registered in LHR. I decided to transfer this car my own name. I reached Excise office FSD where Bahir Wala *Commission Agent* told me to go and buy TO form. I just go there and there were 4 counters and 4th one was responsible to issue the TO Form for the car registered in other cities. I just show him Car Reg and asked him to issue me a TO form. Then he asked me to bring the seller (first owner) because we have to issue the TO form to the first owner only. I told him i want to transfer it to my own name and have all the documents then why i should bring him here and this is not the rule which he is telling me. Then he refused to listen. Then i go out and consult with Bahir wala and he told me i need to pay 10000 (5000 Advance Income Tax + 2000 Misc exps + 3000 their charges even better to say bribe) to get it registered. Then i paid the amount and hand over the documents to Bahir Wala and he asked me i can get it back in 4 days. Just to inform even if we are going to pay Taxes to this bloody govt. then why even we are forced to pay bribe to these bloody excise dept. I am totally fed up and seriously praying some one should hanged these all LOOTAIRAY including govt and must also seized their all assets and bank accounts and there should be no mercy for them.
    Same happens: n lahore also..

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    Only the current owner can get the TO form according to the rules. Baqy 100/200 main agent wagaira bhy niklwa detay hain.

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    He was correct actually. TO is only and only is issued to the original Owner.
    Laws r Made to be Broken

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    TO is only issued to First Owner and not the buyer , agar ap ko lagta ha k ap se rishwat le gaye ha to yi bhi yad rakhen k AP ne rishwat de ha to onho ne le ha.
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    The person who said, " money can't buy happiness". Clearly didn't know where to shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expert1 View Post
    TO is only issued to First Owner and not the buyer , agar ap ko lagta ha k ap se rishwat le gaye ha to yi bhi yad rakhen k AP ne rishwat de ha to onho ne le ha.
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    Agreed. Bhai when you are forced to do something wrong then what to do rather to wait and then govt. announce a new trap and where there is more complications for you at that time and solution again the same BRIBE ????? Not defending myself but there was no way other then this. They are BADMASH of the country.

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    well not in my case, i bought the car and went to the excise office, got the TO form then filled it with the previous owner and submitted it with file and all the documents and received the file and transferred book in 10 working days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasimcheema View Post
    Asslam o Alaikum;


    I just bought a Mehran 2014 Registered in LHR. I decided to transfer this car my own name. I reached Excise office FSD where Bahir Wala *Commission Agent* told me to go and buy TO form. I just go there and there were 4 counters and 4th one was responsible to issue the TO Form for the car registered in other cities. I just show him Car Reg and asked him to issue me a TO form. Then he asked me to bring the seller (first owner) because we have to issue the TO form to the first owner only. I told him i want to transfer it to my own name and have all the documents then why i should bring him here and this is not the rule which he is telling me. Then he refused to listen. Then i go out and consult with Bahir wala and he told me i need to pay 10000 (5000 Advance Income Tax + 2000 Misc exps + 3000 their charges even better to say bribe) to get it registered. Then i paid the amount and hand over the documents to Bahir Wala and he asked me i can get it back in 4 days. Just to inform even if we are going to pay Taxes to this bloody govt. then why even we are forced to pay bribe to these bloody excise dept. I am totally fed up and seriously praying some one should hanged these all LOOTAIRAY including govt and must also seized their all assets and bank accounts and there should be no mercy for them.
    Law is Origional owner has to be there and it's good for all of us .


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    TO form kya hota he

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    Quote Originally Posted by nabeelkhan View Post
    TO form kya hota he
    Transfer of Ownership Form
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    Kal he ma na TO form lea ha Mehran , Rawalpindi reg ka , GPO saddar sa , first owner presence was must or ma na sirf 300 pay ke ha
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    Just make sure that original owner has obtained TO form before you make the purchase.

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    Finally it is registered at my name with the help of Bahir wala.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shabbir233 View Post
    Just make sure that original owner has obtained TO form before you make the purchase.
    200% agree. We do not fulfill the legal requirements and then have to undergo such unpleasant situations.

    In Islamabad they now issue TO with all new registrations. Never purchase any car without TO. Before making a deal, ask the owner to get TO and Rescue 15 clearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasimcheema View Post
    Agreed. Bhai when you are forced to do something wrong then what to do rather to wait and then govt. announce a new trap and where there is more complications for you at that time and solution again the same BRIBE ????? Not defending myself but there was no way other then this. They are BADMASH of the country.


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    Rishwat is really bad, but reality is we hate government employees but we love government job. We have to change our priorities first.

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    In Islamabad they r giving it with new reg

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    I remember, back in 2013 first we inquire info for transferring 2009 model mehran vxr lhr # from excise office rwp. Then took the owner along and all transfer cost in 2000 Rs including new registration book , to form and transfer fee. We inquired those sitting out and they said 5000, 4500. While all work was not more than two thousand. Its better to go with legal way rather than throwing hard earn money to some agents

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