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    Dear 4x4 and SUV Lovers,





    Your help is requested for purchase of Toyota Surf 2004 above models. Although for some reason the recently about a month ago prices for Surf and Prado's gone up. And my budjet doesnt allow going for Pradossssss. But i am sure these prices will come down again.


    I heard and read in diffrent fourms that D4D having injector problem identified after rattling noise from cold start and car driven under 2000 RPM.





    but question would be the same D4D or VVTI with following aspects


    1. Fuel economey


    2. Engine Life


    3. Re-sale


    Looking forward to your expert advice


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    You have an eye on anything on Jail Road that might help me to understand the market. All i know that if its 2003 model then it should be 5 * 15000 Km driven atleast and what they claim to be 30K or 40K driven would be rubbish. what i am good at is look for body paint and interior conditions for and engine i will take some workshop guy to help me out.
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    act i neva bought a vehicle by its mileage.always check da engine nd be satisfied.dealers mostly lie.
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    nd dude can u specify da face lift bec i dun c any
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    any dealer you can recommend to be honest. As my long time back experience of Jail Road was that at one dealer claimed that he had mint new vigo but when checked from from one side was painted. After some discussion we came out to be from same school. But he still insisted the fact that its never been involed in any crash. Dont know who can be trust worthy
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    check under surf category ... there is one black surf in multan and there is one in KHI 2006 unregistered face lift would be new grill and some light change and both are vvti ...
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    https://www.pakwheels.com/xt_details.asp?CarID=57043


    and


    https://www.pakwheels.com/xt_details.asp?CarID=62774
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    i checked da 03 pradofrm lhr silver.i hve seen this vehicle in person too.its nice but a but overdriven. ........the person i trusted has no prado yet .the favour i can do is let u knw if i find any of ur interest.i thought he was talking abt da prado.my bad im sry......i knw da face lift nd the projector lights difference .i was going to buy a ssrg 3.4 in white but wen i took da drive the steering was a bit stiff nd da engine was nt performing at its best so left it nd went fr a evo8 .drove it fr a week nd dropped dat idea too.it was my cuznz ride so returned it nd started to search fr a suv again.if u eva wanna go fr a diesel go fr a 2000land cruiser gud value fr mone saw one in defence demanding 3.4m
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    2000 LC you saw in defence is negotiable on Price or that was the final price ? 10 years old car at 3.4 mil.. irritation already started .. alarming...
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    the condition was pretty immaculate.nd the same irritation refrained me fr asking further details even lolx
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    Any way need to get some NAP and hope some member will help more on some ideal available SUV
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    hoping fr da best .if u c ne surf in ssrg 3.4 do mail me.
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    Go for a petrol surf D4Ds doesnt drive well on low quality pakistani diesel and at the end people start blaming D4D technology but the real culprit is low quality diesel
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    @hashimsiddiq is correct. It is basically the EURO II diesel in Pakistan that kills the Toyota D4D and Mitsubishi DI-D motors. Both are designed for EURO IV grade diesel. Gasoline is a better choice anyday considering the negligible difference in the fuel prices, cheaper maintenance and much less initial cost!!!
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    @MITSU_MAN


    Ok i do agree to some extent that we have bad quality of fuel available to us. But if you search in fourms of D4D engines you will see that problem exists every where .. just name the country.
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    GO FOR GASOLINE......4.0 V6 VVTI !!!!
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    @MITSU_MAN



    4.0 V6 VVTI are very expensive for some reason .
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    I reckon that's the best Toyota offers and it is real good.....PRADO sucks big time in comparison to the new SURF( the roll n pitch is awful in the second row of seats in the new prado.....the ol' prado with 1KZ still has my vote )!!! 4.0 is expensive, but 250(approx) horses are sure to put a big grin across your face when you'll floor it!!! Alternatively, 2.7 VVTI should be your focus.....forget that oil burner!
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    @MITSU_MAN


    Please help, so what shall be i looking for in 2.7 VVTI Surf. Anything in Perticular.
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    Hmmmmm.....engine,gearbox,seats,horn and yes tyres x4 and if you are lucky 5 !!! Its a jungle out there....no one can tell which will suit your liking.....check out a couple of pieces at different showrooms and go for the best deal, amigo!!!
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    Thank you for the advice. So may be you can recommend if you seen any suitable in the market or in personal sales.
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