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    NEED USED OR NEW FUEL INJECTORS FOR TOYOTA 2KD ENGINE.


    NEED THEM IN A HURRY! PLS HELP.





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    would be hard to find.
    1kd spares would be easier to source

    is it a 2.5 vigo ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hash4u

    would be hard to find. 1kd spares would be easier to source is it a 2.5 vigo ?

    Its a surf.. am putting a 2kd in my rally surf..
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    @saiidd


    2L......3L.....2KD.....really never thought that losing to that ol' jero of mine would hurt so much amigo!!!Goodluck with the 'JUUGARS'.......see ya on the track!!!
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    Mitsu... dont rub salt on my wounds yaar.. really am down for missing out on the rally..
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    sajidd

    sorry for late reply as I as in Dubai. Well did you find the injectors or should I contact my person here?

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    sajidd
    cant help you with injectors but there was a thread at pakwheels about ARB they are here in Pakistan you can check the site but i dont know their contact
    http://www.arb.com.au...........
    i see you are always interested in snorkels and stuff
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    2KD is a small engine but have potential to become a killer 4x4. The only thing is to upgrade and order some parts.
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    Saaduk, dont worry about the parts. The engines that i was given were both faulty. Too much of my time and money have been wasted and finally I ran out of sabar!
    Decided to return the engine and switch back to 3L, at least it runs like a donkey and does not require a master mind for wiring.

    If the transplant would have been successful then I would have had a beast of a 4x4 on my hands... Maybe down the line if i find a half cut vigo with 2kd.. i might venture this way again..

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    Bro please dont go for 2KD if its not originally installed. I wrote it because I thought your 4x4 did came ith 2KD. The KD engine is a big big problem here. Rest you know a thousand times more than me about these 4x4s.

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    @sajidd


    Amigo.....you no rally???? zis TOYoto always let you downo.....switcheeto to mitsubishio and enjoyio!!!
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    I'm digressing from the original topic a bit, but have you tried modifying a mechanical fuel injection type turbo diesel? I'm guessing it'll be a bit less work than making all the electronics work, and you can get quite a bit of power from the older diesels. They'll smoke like anything however, but in a rally, it shouldn't be a problem.
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    Just for your consumption, I also happen to use a mechanical pump 2.5 TD engine for rallying. Any input to revamp the ol' oil burner is more than welcome....am all ears!!!
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    If you're using the 4D56 turbo, I've got some good news. Apparently, the diesel pump is overrated for the engine. That is to say, you can boost and fuel the engine to death. FWIW, someone had boosted a 4D55 turbo to 184 WHP. The 4D56 should at least equal it. I'd be happy with a solid 170 WHP, or 200+ crank HP. For a 1st gen 3 door Pajero, that should give under 10 seconds for the 0-100 km/h sprint. Of course you'll finish the run in 4th gear, hence the long-ish elapsed time.


    As a guidline to modifying Bosch VE type pumps, I present the following articles in an Australian publication, you might have to fish around a bit to find the corresponding parts, but shouldn't really present any problem:


    Our Peugeot diesel Part 1 - The exhaust


    Our Peugeot diesel Part 2 - The intake


    Our Peugeot diesel Part 3 - Fuelling adjustments


    Our Peugeot diesel Part 4 - Boost and the injection system


    Our Peugeot diesel Part 5 - Final tuning of the fuel injection system


    As a side note, boosted engines need a bit more cooling, so I'd advise an oil cooler and a bigger / better radiator. An oil/water exchanger would be a welcome addition as well. That way the engine will warm up quicker and you'll be able to control fluid temperatures better. Oh and one last thing, the Mitsu diesels have a pressure relief valve on the intake that might need a bit of modifying to let it go past 15 psi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sami_voodoo



    Sajidd


    I'm digressing from the original topic a bit, but have you tried modifying a mechanical fuel injection type turbo diesel? I'm guessing it'll be a bit less work than making all the electronics work, and you can get quite a bit of power from the older diesels. They'll smoke like anything however, but in a rally, it shouldn't be a problem.






    Sami, thanks for the input. I am reverting to toyota 3l engine and am planning to tweak it up a bit by installing a turbo from 2lt. SO any tips on how to make this tweak successful and extracting max HP and torque..Dont care about smoke..
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    Wow...that's informative....thanks....well we have a rally on our hands two days from now and I can safely presume that tampering with the vehicle now( even if I were Einstein's brother) would be detrimental....all this boost might kill the motor anyway in a 250 km rally and probably is fit only for a drag????
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    I agree with Mitsu_Man,

    That mod will help alot and can be done in almost every diesel engine (to supply more fuel plus raise boost) but this is not the weather for doing it as there are chances of breakage if not weaking of the engine.
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    Sajidd


    As far as I can tell, you'll be limited to around 5 to 7 psi in boost pressure. Generally, turbocharged variants of a diesel engine have reinforced or additional rings lands on the piston. Secondly, you won't have boost compensation with the original injector pump (unless I'm missing something here) - no fuel enrichment as boost comes on. Thus the limitation in boost pressure.


    Oh and I'm digressing a lot from the topic, feel free to boot me out if you wish!


    MITSU_MAN


    Depends on how hard you want to run your motor. You can give your motor a mild tune and call it a day, but you're right, it'll take at least a day or two to suss out all the screws and nuts and see what they do, and then a couple more days to tune the thing. Tuning an NA diesel takes a full day of running and adjusting, so a turbo will take longer.


    If you keep an eye on engine coolant temperature, you can control your engine's condition pretty well, but it can be dicey if you're going for mad boost and over-fueling.

    As a general rule of thumb, the harder you smoke, the higher the EGT's (Exhaust Gas Temperatures) you'll be generating. A bit higher than normal or a LOT higher for a very short time wouldn't matter, but over 250 kms? I'm not sure. As a future investment, you should think of getting an EGT gauge if you're serious about tuning your engine - I would.

    Personally, the way I'd tune a diesel engine is to let it smoke during boost buildup - this raises EGTs and help accelerate the turbine. As full boost is reached, it should not smoke at all, or very slightly - this will drop the EGTs down to a safe level.


    Here's a topic I started once upon a time to discuss electronic diesel fuel injection, of the non common-rail variety. There'a a link in the first post that might be of interest.


    Electronic Diesel Tuning Devices


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    @saaduk


    Thanks for understanding my point of view!


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    Considering the year and the size of the modest motor I run, perhaps, a MILD tune is what I (my humble 4D56) probably can handle.....anything more complicated and am likely to go put-put in middle of nowhere!!! Please shoot on the MILD one (if possible) or alternatively hook me onto some link.....mucho gracias!!!!
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    If you want performance out of your motor, the best way is to install a DP Chip or Dtronic, whichever suits your application best with better flowing exhaust system. Last year I experimented with a 13BT by raising its boost to 18 psi which is hell alot for it. There were no sings of heat up at that time but it wore the engine drastically. After running it in around 2bar for a year , the car is now in workshop having engine transplant. I was wondering what would have happened to 1KZ engine if I did the same with it as B series engines are ten times stronger than K series.
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