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    Question Build or Built

    Hello 4x4 enthusiasts.

    Something that just came to my mind while talking about availability of certain things and I wanted to bounce off a similar question related to 4x4s from our dear PW forum to get the maximum mileage;

    The question is;
    If you wanted a 4x4 jeep (M151s, CJs, FJs, LJs, & LR types) (no fancy SUV types)

    • Would you buy a beat-up 4x4 & build upon it or


    • Would you buy a decent quality built machine, if available in the market?



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    Quote Originally Posted by sarmadqureshi View Post
    Hello 4x4 enthusiasts.

    Something that just came to my mind while talking about availability of certain things and I wanted to bounce off a similar question related to 4x4s from our dear PW forum to get the maximum mileage;

    The question is;
    If you wanted a 4x4 jeep (M151s, CJs, FJs, LJs, & LR types) (no fancy SUV types)

    • Would you buy a beat-up 4x4 & build upon it or


    • Would you buy a decent quality built machine, if available in the market?
    I will go restoration my self....

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    If i have budget constraints then i would buy already running machine.
    AND if budget is good then i would love to convert CJ to original wrangler specs(atleast interior and exterior wise or FJ40 with 1HZ or 1KZ-TE(third gen i think)
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    I went for a built one when getting my 4x4 (Willys MB)... building one required too much patience

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    restoration makes u satisfy...buying a restored machine is not good..u have to compromise....on the other hand in restoration u make the changes which you like
    king of atitude.

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    ^ +1
    restoration is always the best option for me if one has enough time and money to spend......!
    it gives you freedom to make any alteration u want!!
    The way a man keeps his car ,,,is the way he keeps himself...................

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    Nicely & precisely put by deadvirus_h3. Agreed.

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    If you are looking for a stock vehicle, than a "decent quality built machine' can also work, because there are other people as well who can get the work done properly. But for that you need to interview the person thoroughly.

    And if you need something for your own requirements, than you go for restoration.

    And lastly, both the above solutions depends on how much time you have.

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    Always better to know your weaknesses in my honest opinion. The problem is, when somebody built it for you, you'll never know where the Achilles Heel is.

    Love the title of the thread.

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    But, life goes on. From RKR to MMC. 4x4 Engaged? Team Unimog, Pakistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by raohamid View Post
    Always better to know your weaknesses in my honest opinion. The problem is, when somebody built it for you, you'll never know where the Achilles Heel is.

    Love the title of the thread.

    MMC
    Agreed, but if someone else has built it "not for you" but for himself in a better way and by chance you get it/ buy it from that person, than i think one can think of it.

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    @sam

    Tell me what are you eyeing now???....I can smell a project tucked up your sleeve somewhere!
    Though have brought life back to many, I for one, would opt for something up and running (if the tag doesn't set me off to the moon) and save priceless hours toiling (fooling around) with the ustaad gees and their totkays!
    MEN DO IT AT DAKAR!!!

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    An already 'decent built machine' will give a platform to further enhance/add/alter features.whereas, in case of a build u have to make the platform from scratch.
    I guess a built machine would suit better to a newbie.
    Qaiser Pal,I have not failed.But found 1 of 10,000 ways which doesn't work.....Toyota driver "I couldn't repair my brakes,so i made my horn louder"..When i was born i was so surprised that i didn't talked to one and half year..since light travel faster then sound,people appear bright until you hear them speak..If u can't convince them,confuse them

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    @sarmad

    You know what I will do.... :-)

    I have successfully retrofitted Propane Injection. My next mod is wellding all the spot welds on the mutt to get more torsion stiffness, as in one of my testing I broke some of the spot welds.
    AM General Jeep M825 MUTT | 3 C Turbo Diesel

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    nice post

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    Sarmad ... when is the offroading plan buddy ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aisheikh View Post
    @sarmad

    You know what I will do.... :-)

    I have successfully retrofitted Propane Injection. My next mod is wellding all the spot welds on the mutt to get more torsion stiffness, as in one of my testing I broke some of the spot welds.
    Cool, do you still need the parachute or has the braking been sorted
    TLC FJ90 SWB ~ 1KZ-TE ~ 50mm OEM Lift

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    Quote Originally Posted by salmanhas View Post
    Sarmad ... when is the offroading plan buddy ?
    Wow, 915 days and this is your 1st post..... I am honored .

    A few cars and the drivers are out of town, we'll do something smaller in Phase 8 category soon. Will let you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarmadqureshi View Post
    Cool, do you still need the parachute or has the braking been sorted
    Jokes asides in my 1st field test I didnt anticipate such high performance gains, but with additional torque and boost I actually went airborne from a small sand barrier 15' verticle and around 45' horizontal. Damaged my front left shock (modded range rover shocks), broke the suspension spot welds, but the vehicle remained intack and drivable. My navigator came off his seat while airborne and landed on the gear stick on his a$$, ouch... All is well now and repaired (the jeep and the navigator)

    Will continue with further testing, but one thing is for sure, I now need to further beef up my front suspension and install 4 point saftety harness to stay within the vehicle. I already have 12" 4 wheel power disk brakes (front pajero, rear land cruiser), temp rollcage is already in place, and have finally bought a helmet.
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    will restore it myself everytime.
    Toyota All The Way !!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarmadqureshi View Post
    Cool, do you still need the parachute or has the braking been sorted
    Sam, you are naughty!

    MMC
    I will miss her, that RKR. She will always be the one that got away.
    But, life goes on. From RKR to MMC. 4x4 Engaged? Team Unimog, Pakistan

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