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    I hav seen lots of videos of jeeps running in water/streams/lakes/deep khawars but still not confident to do the same stunt myself. I hav 1996 Prado 1kz. Pl tell me how deep i can take it in water, what to do about silencer and other electrical parts/ battery etc. I guess for silencer an extended pipe may help.

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    first you will need a snorkel for air intake(then u can drive it deep)..silencer is not a big deal and without a snorkel you can manage any water crossing till hood height.water cannot damage the wiring and battery etcTop Ten Tips for Water Crossings: Off-Road.com
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    Asadsehti, I wouldn't do it if I were you. 90 series with 1kz is sadly not at all a good offroader.
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    U caN gO frOM kpt tO maNora via wateR

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    Asad it is a really nice question you have asked. I myself have been searching for the info as I myself have a 90 series with 1kz.
    The most reasonable answer I have got is that
    you can go as deep as you want as long as you don't get water into the air intake. That means you can go just about bumper height. You can go a bit deeper if you are able to keep up with the bow wave.
    I was also wondering what would happen to the interior, but read that in a well kept prado, the interior is sealed and water ingress shouldn't be a problem.
    However there is a problem with the center diff if it remains submerged in the water, and people install diff breathers for it, though I do not know exactly what that means.
    However keep in mind that this is all theory for me as I have never tested it in water. Might have to now that the rainy season in Karachi will start soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajab9007 View Post
    first you will need a snorkel for air intake(then u can drive it deep)..silencer is not a big deal and without a snorkel you can manage any water crossing till hood height.water cannot damage the wiring and battery etcTop Ten Tips for Water Crossings: Off-Road.com
    many thanks ajab, u got good info, hope our club will florish with ur guidance, i dont intend to go that much deep to use a snorkel, just planning for a trip to Kalash and shandur , may b on way we hav to cross waterways so i guess max height of water would b till bumper, as i hav seen some pics if IJC in kalash

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saaduk View Post
    Asadsehti, I wouldn't do it if I were you. 90 series with 1kz is sadly not at all a good offroader.
    yaar saad i dont intend to take my car in lake saiful malook or wish to cross nanga parbat on it, just in case if on my shandur-kalash trip if i come accross some water ways so i want to b prepare for it

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    Asad Bhai if the height of water is till bumper then no problem, it should be able to manage that. Good luck
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    I have taken my prado hood deep in water without any probs. Will post some videos later.

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    Snorkel is not required I have seen ppl going from Mastoj to Shandur in Suzuki FX and then u think am I a bit too naive while upgrading my already state of the art 4x4.

    Just put in some fuel and press the pedal u will reach there safe and sound.
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    yar maray khayal sa ap ari in takh ko roof tak extend karo or cylincer ko be , bettery ko kisi tarhan sel kr do taka pani andar na jay or short na ho . then it will work surely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghilzai View Post
    Snorkel is not required I have seen ppl going from Mastoj to Shandur in Suzuki FX and then u think am I a bit too naive while upgrading my already state of the art 4x4.

    Just put in some fuel and press the pedal u will reach there safe and sound.
    thank u asmat bhai for the info u provided on phone

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomicool View Post
    I have taken my prado hood deep in water without any probs. Will post some videos later.
    nomi bhai aap ki kya baat hai, waiting for pics and videos

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    Quote Originally Posted by haseeb2288 View Post
    yar maray khayal sa ap ari in takh ko roof tak extend karo or cylincer ko be , bettery ko kisi tarhan sel kr do taka pani andar na jay or short na ho . then it will work surely
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saaduk View Post
    Asad Bhai if the height of water is till bumper then no problem, it should be able to manage that. Good luck
    thanks dear, when u r getting to join us in our second club meet

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    Asad, water crossing is a very technical event. its not only how deep you can go but how to approach a crossing, whether the water is standing or flowing, if flowing how fast is it, are there rocks or other debris submerged in the flowing water, what kind of surface is beneth the water i.e is it rocky or mud or sand etc, whether you can see the bottom and can judge the depth of it or not...
    these are all important questions you have to ask and get answers to before you put your vehicle in water whether equipped with snorkel or not. e.g snorkle will not save you if the water is flowing very fast and carries with it rocks and stuff as is the case in most northern area streams. or if you go to a pond, the water migh just reach your bumper but you'll get bogged down in the silty, muddy bottom.
    So to answer your questions, the first part is you need a snorkel ideally to attempt water crossing. if you don't have one then you can safely put your vehicle in the water without causing any technical harm as long as it doesn't reach your air intake, a good rule of thumb is that the water shouldn't reach above your bumper.
    secondly for any fast flowing stream or any other type of water try to see how fast its flowing, moving water has surprising force and can easily lift and sweep away vehicles, anything getting up to your doors is going to be exerting tons of pressure so avoid such situations.
    Also, make sure you can tell how deep the water is before entering it, as there might be holes or sudden drops beneath the surface, best way is to walk the length of the track underwater.
    enterance angle for crossing a fast moving stream is another point, never go directly perpendicular to the fast moving stream, start off a bit upstream and go across at an angle, aim for point higher than where you intend to exit and the flow will drag you to the right spot.
    hope this doesn't discourage you from taking on one of the best part of offroading
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomi1234 View Post
    Asad, water crossing is a very technical event. its not only how deep you can go but how to approach a crossing, whether the water is standing or flowing, if flowing how fast is it, are there rocks or other debris submerged in the flowing water, what kind of surface is beneth the water i.e is it rocky or mud or sand etc, whether you can see the bottom and can judge the depth of it or not...
    these are all important questions you have to ask and get answers to before you put your vehicle in water whether equipped with snorkel or not. e.g snorkle will not save you if the water is flowing very fast and carries with it rocks and stuff as is the case in most northern area streams. or if you go to a pond, the water migh just reach your bumper but you'll get bogged down in the silty, muddy bottom.
    So to answer your questions, the first part is you need a snorkel ideally to attempt water crossing. if you don't have one then you can safely put your vehicle in the water without causing any technical harm as long as it doesn't reach your air intake, a good rule of thumb is that the water shouldn't reach above your bumper.
    secondly for any fast flowing stream or any other type of water try to see how fast its flowing, moving water has surprising force and can easily lift and sweep away vehicles, anything getting up to your doors is going to be exerting tons of pressure so avoid such situations.
    Also, make sure you can tell how deep the water is before entering it, as there might be holes or sudden drops beneath the surface, best way is to walk the length of the track underwater.
    enterance angle for crossing a fast moving stream is another point, never go directly perpendicular to the fast moving stream, start off a bit upstream and go across at an angle, aim for point higher than where you intend to exit and the flow will drag you to the right spot.
    hope this doesn't discourage you from taking on one of the best part of offroading

    nomi1234 great analysis ... Theory and ground practice combined.
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    @asadsethi .... My pleasure. Enjoy ur trip and stay safe.
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