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    Thumbs up **Help Regarding swap options of Engine in My 3Door pajero**

    HI Pakwheelers

    I have a 1990 3-door pajero in very good condition but its engine is weak and i want to Replace its engine rather than Overhauling .

    i need advise from respected friends which engine i should go for definately diesel.
    my preference/use is more as a SUV rather than very hardcore off roading and Economy is one of my Basic concern and also power to weight ratio is also very important.
    Few options in my mind are :-

    1- 3C TE
    2- 2L TE

    as i will prefer toyota engine rather than swaping MItsubishi engine, and please also advise me about the gear box as in my idea i install 2L with all Prado set up is it will be a good way and also give me the price idea for this. and pros and cons assossiated with this swap.
    waiting for the sincere advise from senior members specially Sohaib kayani , LIbra, Mitsu Man and friends and also advise me if i sell this pajero and buy prado with 2L setup how much amount i have to arrange.


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    Experts please i am waiting for advice from yourside....

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    Mark my words....anything but a TOYota.....you'll be happy sticking to this!
    MEN DO IT AT DAKAR!!!

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    Firstly, I would have thought that the original Mitsubishi engine would be easier and cheaper to do than a Toyota swap. You would probably find that the 4D56 (or whichever) original engine is perhaps also easier to find than a kabuli 3C or 2L these days....

    I would also recommend looking into an engine overhaul a I would think that quality Mitsubishi parts are available at decent prices and its always a good option taking everything into consideration provided this is done properly....

    I am not so well versed with the ins and outs of Toyota diesel swaps into Pajeros, but 3C and 2L are good Toyota choices for swaps as far as the engines themselves but good pieces are rather difficult to find nowadays. Between the 3C and 2L, I would think that the 2L would sit in better with the Pajero gear ratios....

    Do elaborate on why you want to stick to diesel and particularly the e-diesels?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MITSU_MAN View Post
    @taskheershamas

    Mark my words....anything but a TOYota.....you'll be happy sticking to this!
    thanks dear for your reply ...i am also confident in Toyota Engine as over heating issue may arise some time in Mitsu engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuhaibKiani View Post
    Firstly, I would have thought that the original Mitsubishi engine would be easier and cheaper to do than a Toyota swap. You would probably find that the 4D56 (or whichever) original engine is perhaps also easier to find than a kabuli 3C or 2L these days....

    I would also recommend looking into an engine overhaul a I would think that quality Mitsubishi parts are available at decent prices and its always a good option taking everything into consideration provided this is done properly....

    I am not so well versed with the ins and outs of Toyota diesel swaps into Pajeros, but 3C and 2L are good Toyota choices for swaps as far as the engines themselves but good pieces are rather difficult to find nowadays. Between the 3C and 2L, I would think that the 2L would sit in better with the Pajero gear ratios....

    Do elaborate on why you want to stick to diesel and particularly the e-diesels?
    Thanks alot sohaib for your reply. Actually For e- engine the only reason is fuel efficiency and for diesel the main reason is that i use to move to much toward north and there always easy to find diesel engine , 2ndly iam very much impressed from diesel engine performance when ever have to cross water . I am also looking for D4D choices . so you recomends that should i go for 2L with orignal surf/prado orignal gear box.
    any further suggestion in this regard will be higly appreciated.

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    Exclamation Toyota engine is the best option.

    GO for 2L the best choice and try to find the latest one in the market and must attach the matching gear box.
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    I will NOt recomend 3C for two reasons, as its orignally used in FWD configuration so you have to do little work in using it in a RWD configuration and you have to attach hilux gear box , 2nd 3C is high RPM engine which is not adviseable for offroading where low RPM torque is more important. So if possible go for the latest 2L and enjoy.
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    any one. .....

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    experts please come on:::::: @Mitsu Man..... @Sohaib Kiyani
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    Any knowledge about 2L in the market and price with gear Box? and what do you think if fitted in Mutt???
    Be nice to the ppl while going up.. you might meet them on your way down

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    Quote Originally Posted by taskheershamas View Post
    Thanks alot sohaib for your reply. Actually For e- engine the only reason is fuel efficiency and for diesel the main reason is that i use to move to much toward north and there always easy to find diesel engine , 2ndly iam very much impressed from diesel engine performance when ever have to cross water . I am also looking for D4D choices . so you recomends that should i go for 2L with orignal surf/prado orignal gear box.
    any further suggestion in this regard will be higly appreciated.
    A good later model 2LT II with a mechanical carb would be my recommendation if you really wanna go the Toyota way. The e models may be smoother and more fuel efficient, but not by much and they do bring lots of ECU and wiring related issues which you would rather not have for expedition reliability.

    I can't say much on gearbox choices at this stage but feel that you would have to retain the original Mitsubishi one as I am not sure if the Hilux/Prado boxes would line up with the front diff. You would need an adapter plate to mate the 2L with the Mitsu box, change the top shaft and do some jugar with the clutch assembly....

    Once again, I do feel that sticking to a Mitsubishi engine will be much simpler, reliable and cheaper for you in the long run. The above exercise will not be cheap one way or the other and its a recipe for disaster if it ends up in the wrong hands.....
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