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    Quote Originally Posted by SuhaibKiani View Post
    What amazing race coverage! Hopefully someday we could do something like this for Cholistan or Jhal!
    Pastrana did an amazing job!
    I guess one should ask Zeeshan Parvez/ Haseeb Saeed what funds they require to put together a half decent video, half n hour not more... and the rally crowd should pitch in to finance it...based on what the two did with a couple of cameras, im willing to bet they'll do an amazing job with 8-10 cameras to cover the race... add to that gopro footage from the car cams and you have a blockbuster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yaserag View Post
    I guess one should ask Zeeshan Parvez/ Haseeb Saeed what funds they require to put together a half decent video, half n hour not more... and the rally crowd should pitch in to finance it...based on what the two did with a couple of cameras, im willing to bet they'll do an amazing job with 8-10 cameras to cover the race... add to that gopro footage from the car cams and you have a blockbuster.
    Yaar I don't know these chaps at all, but add to that a Mountain Dew or Lays Crisps sponsorship and that sounds like a plan. I say Lays because as I understand, the crisps are somewhat of a novelty in the Thar / Cholistan with low income households spending a significant portion of their money on them Fritos. Nevertheless, seems more likely a thing for PTV Sports or Geo Sports to cover, again probably not possible without some kinda sponsorship. Another way of going about is by doing an independent project and then selling the content to one of the channels. Its definitely something that is quite watchable in this format as even my kids seemed quite interested!
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    Pakistan 4x4 Rally Thread -  Discussion - 10458654 901865353176833 3452451814098376506 n?oh864ae4f61cae172fa62c95d285ffc200

    Wheel nuts and bolts also see flying ^^^ off Jason Scherer's Ultra 4 Car!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuhaibKiani View Post
    Yaar I don't know these chaps at all, but add to that a Mountain Dew or Lays Crisps sponsorship and that sounds like a plan. I say Lays because as I understand, the crisps are somewhat of a novelty in the Thar / Cholistan with low income households spending a significant portion of their money on them Fritos. Nevertheless, seems more likely a thing for PTV Sports or Geo Sports to cover, again probably not possible without some kinda sponsorship. Another way of going about is by doing an independent project and then selling the content to one of the channels. Its definitely something that is quite watchable in this format as even my kids seemed quite interested!

    Real sarcastic undertones in this one ....theyre the guys who put the cholistan video together... the one with a quadcopter working in tandem with a ground camera... in which NN and babar/barbarosa got more than their fair share of airtime ... Haseeb is a cousin. Zeeshan btw is one half of sajid and Zeeshan...the band. I'm sure you've heard of them. The funny thing about corporate sponsors (us) is that they tell people like me that there is no mass appeal for the sport (bunch of BS)... marketing has all the money and they prefer to spend it on adds as thats reflective of their creativity.... anyway no time for that crap. I seriously think getting these guys to do a 30 minute feature on cholistan is doable... i'll ask them how much it'll take to make it work...
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    Quote Originally Posted by yaserag View Post
    Real sarcastic undertones in this one ....theyre the guys who put the cholistan video together... the one with a quadcopter working in tandem with a ground camera... in which NN and babar/barbarosa got more than their fair share of airtime ... Haseeb is a cousin. Zeeshan btw is one half of sajid and Zeeshan...the band. I'm sure you've heard of them. The funny thing about corporate sponsors (us) is that they tell people like me that there is no mass appeal for the sport (bunch of BS)... marketing has all the money and they prefer to spend it on adds as thats reflective of their creativity.... anyway no time for that crap. I seriously think getting these guys to do a 30 minute feature on cholistan is doable... i'll ask them how much it'll take to make it work...
    No sarcastic undertones there, we've all seen the wonderful video and I was just saying that I don't know them personally. Now that you mention it though, I think we are missing a Concordia air shot particularly as I believe that we were running hoodless and furious when we passed where the camera team was. Do tell them that a number of competitors are awaiting a Directors Cut Edition of their epic failing which we would be glad to accept any raw footage where available

    For corporate sponsorships, all that I can say is that I have met a number of people now who refer to video. Some even say that their kids are addicted to watching it again and again. It would be a waste if this effort by Zeeshan and Haseeb is not able to highlight the mass appeal of desert racing to Corporate Sponsors in Pakistan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuhaibKiani View Post
    No sarcastic undertones there, we've all seen the wonderful video and I was just saying that I don't know them personally. Now that you mention it though, I think we are missing a Concordia air shot particularly as I believe that we were running hoodless and furious when we passed where the camera team was. Do tell them that a number of competitors are awaiting a Directors Cut Edition of their epic failing which we would be glad to accept any raw footage where available

    For corporate sponsorships, all that I can say is that I have met a number of people now who refer to video. Some even say that their kids are addicted to watching it again and again. It would be a waste if this effort by Zeeshan and Haseeb is not able to highlight the mass appeal of desert racing to Corporate Sponsors in Pakistan.

    mein corporate sponsorship par sarcasm dikhanay ki baat kar raha tha .. i just discovered at lunch that people in our bangkok office have seen the said video... had an interesting conversation on it where a marketing colleague suggested that historically such things have been poorly packaged/presented by the agencies/people covering them...and he provided insights on how it should be presented to marketing execs to get them interested...anyway i strongly feel that the first one will have to be self funded... once its put together, the content can be sold to a PTV or Geo super etc....
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    Quote Originally Posted by yaserag View Post
    mein corporate sponsorship par sarcasm dikhanay ki baat kar raha tha .. i just discovered at lunch that people in our bangkok office have seen the said video... had an interesting conversation on it where a marketing colleague suggested that historically such things have been poorly packaged/presented by the agencies/people covering them...and he provided insights on how it should be presented to marketing execs to get them interested...anyway i strongly feel that the first one will have to be self funded... once its put together, the content can be sold to a PTV or Geo super etc....
    You should speak to Haseeb and Zeeshan and see if they are interested and commit to it given their engagements during Feb - April period. If they are willing then we could possibly pitch it to the rally crowd for some seed funding and other assistance like providing footage and interviews etc. Once we have the footage, a small pilot edit can be made which can be pitched to media houses. Independently putting together something like the red bull program is quite a big effort as such but if we have a couple of sponsors it should be quite doable.

    Aah the days of cigarette sponsors were so much easier. We probably owe the start of rallying in Pakistan to those devils.....
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    Haan bhai! Jhal kon kon jaa raha hai?
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    Maybe a little off topic, but 1KD Vigo gurus I need your clutch advise. Would highly appreciate your input here:
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/4x4...ns#post4635508
    @yaserag, @SuhaibKiani, could you please tag 1KD notables in this post? Thanks a bunch!

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    @Jeep_junkie A stock new clutch from Exedy would do fine. Doesn't have to be a racing clutch. A reputable OEM clutch should be good for +400Nm torque easily
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    @yaserag sir u arent taking your surf to jhal??

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    Quote Originally Posted by haris001 View Post
    @yaserag sir u arent taking your surf to jhal??

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    @haris001, Yaar i've been transferred overseas by my company so wouldnt be able to make it. Will be coming for Cholistan Inshallah.
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    Will there be a stock category in cholistan this time??

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    Quote Originally Posted by haris001 View Post
    Will there be a stock category in cholistan this time??

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    based on last years participation, there should definitely be one... you plan on competing?
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    @yaserag yes sir m planing to throw my vigo into this!! but would need a lot of guidence from u guys as otherwise it wont be possible your assistance would be highly appreciated as m a complete newbie in this

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    Quote Originally Posted by haris001 View Post
    @yaserag yes sir m planing to throw my vigo into this!! but would need a lot of guidence from u guys as otherwise it wont be possible your assistance would be highly appreciated as m a complete newbie in this

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    roll cage is mandatory , stock is kinda misleading got me excited too.
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    Hahaha yes i have that in mind as its the first thing i confirmed!

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    Stock category is essentially a stock vehicle with a roll cage. You can have bolt on type roll cage if you don't want a permanent one. Also some competitors have exo cages which are fine as well. Jhal had stock vehicle categories this year, cholistan should have them as well

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