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    When I first started this thread, I had just taken delivery of a stock, recently-auctioned 1984 TLC FJ40.

    Gaari to khareed lee, lekin I had little/no idea of what I was going to end up doing to the vehicle. For a very long time, I planned to give it a "decent" sort of makeover: something involving some nice tyres, a respectable paint-job, comfortable seats, a roll cage, and that's about it. At that time, little did I know what was in store for me...

    Somewhere along the line, this project developed a life of its own. Baaton baaton mein, it metamorphosed from being a quick, run-of-the-mill restoration into something quite ambitious and challenging. Something that was in-your-face, and in-your-guts. Something, the likes of which we had seen chronicled in the pages of Off Roader magazines...but something which we'd never really attempted back home.

    This rebuild is STILL ongoing. It's far from over, just yet. But along the way, it's indeed become something which seems to have a life of its own. Ironically, this as-yet-unfinished vehicle has developed a...character.

    While it may not be the most ego-stroking fact...a lot of people know "The Phantom...jiss ka maalik woh Fouad Hafeez hai"...rather than knowing "Fouad Hafeez...jiss ke paas woh Phantom hai"

    Also, along the way, this vehicle has been instrumental in my making a huge number of friends, acquaintances, and well-wishers alike. Without a doubt, all of these people are gentlemen; sporting enthusiasts, and engine afficianados, and automotive hobbyists...with whom, a common love for the sport, has brought us to common ground. Their support, good wishes, advice, expert opinions, constructive criticism, and attention to detail, has made this hunk of steel slowly emerge into its current shape. I have no doubt that the end product will be a fusion of the ideas and aspirations of all of these friends, acquaintances, and well-wishers. To all of you; my deepest gratitude. It has been (and will be) one helluva ride, so far!

    For now, though, this thread (having picked up over 700 replies) is going to undergo some TLC of its own. A chronicle (in pictures) of all the water that's flown under the bridge, thus far, as we progress towards the desired end state (shown in the last picture of this post). Let the photos begin!

    And...I think it's about time for some of the photos to change here, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fouadhafeez View Post
    Jamil Ustaad

    Met Dr Ehsan Kiani at City Saddar Road. A chance encounter...and another wonderful gentleman to become acquainted with, in person!
    It was an honor to meet you sir. Loved seeing the beast. Jamil bhai is doing a wonderful job. Please do let me know if there is any help that I can be of.
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    BTW. We did a SOA conversion on our 79 Cherokee with 60 series diffs too. There is some information on the following link (with pics) regarding the front driveline angle adjustments and cutting the diff housing that you will need to do on this project too. Tareen bhai can also provide guidance on that aspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ehsankiani View Post
    It was an honor to meet you sir. Loved seeing the beast. Jamil bhai is doing a wonderful job. Please do let me know if there is any help that I can be of.
    Thanks
    Ehsan

    Yes, of course, brother! There is at LEAST one aspect where I'll be continuously looking forward to your help...and that is moral support, for this wacky rebuild!

    And I'm very glad that you like the ride, Ehsan. God bless!
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    Very nice and new project You started. I am regulerly watching making your FJ JAMEEL USTAD is doing excellent JOB. What is the Tyer Size you installed. How much it cost you ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daudbros View Post
    Very nice and new project You started. I am regulerly watching making your FJ JAMEEL USATAN is doing excellent JOB. What is the Tyer Size you installed. How much it cost you ?

    Thank you for the good wishes.

    The tyre size is 15/42/15 which is equal to 385/85/15.
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    @ehsankiani

    Ehsan, we're putting any work on the SOA / suspension on hold until we have the engine installed, and the vehicle approaches it final kerb weight. This will give us a true idea of how the beast will actually look, whilst in a state of repose.

    In my discussions with Nikku Ustaad, he's pretty much against doing anything with the vehicle, at all...opting instead for just long-travel shocks to use up all the (more than adequate) space for articulation between the wheels and the body. For now, I'm willing to play along. Later on, during the test and adjustment phase, we can see what's required, and what's not.

    I found your link fascinating reading. One thing which I noticed was how your SOA conversion allowed for some amount of space between the diff tube and the spring stack (top picture), whilst my SOA sits flush on top of the tube, with no space whatsoever (lower picture). What gives here? Inquisitive minds want to know

    P.S. Did you use series 60 springs as well (like I have), or were they 40 springs / springs which came originally with the Cherokee?

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    @fouadhafeez

    Brother, is there a close-up shot available of the U-bolt setting? Would like to understand what they have done to accommodate the center bolt of leaf springs.

    Thanx

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    Just went thru almost all of the thread but couldn't find the right picture. And I forgot to mention the amazing craftsmanship and a great concept shaping up. It must be mesmerizing to see sheet-metal coming to life and having a name for itself. Thumbs up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tareen View Post
    @fouadhafeez

    Brother, is there a close-up shot available of the U-bolt setting? Would like to understand what they have done to accommodate the center bolt of leaf springs.

    Thanx
    I'm afraid I don't have one right now, but I'll snap one for you, ASAP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tareen View Post
    Just went thru almost all of the thread but couldn't find the right picture. And I forgot to mention the amazing craftsmanship and a great concept shaping up. It must be mesmerizing to see sheet-metal coming to life and having a name for itself. Thumbs up!
    Thank you, boss!
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    Sir. In my humble opinion, the driveshaft angle correction and then the caster adjustment are a must for a smooth and reliable ride but as you said, it has to be done later.
    As for the pictures you posted. yours will also have a similar gap to accommodate the center bolt for the spring pack.
    Ehsan

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    @ehsankiani

    Ehsan, we're putting any work on the SOA / suspension on hold until we have the engine installed, and the vehicle approaches it final kerb weight. This will give us a true idea of how the beast will actually look, whilst in a state of repose.

    In my discussions with Nikku Ustaad, he's pretty much against doing anything with the vehicle, at all...opting instead for just long-travel shocks to use up all the (more than adequate) space for articulation between the wheels and the body. For now, I'm willing to play along. Later on, during the test and adjustment phase, we can see what's required, and what's not.

    I found your link fascinating reading. One thing which I noticed was how your SOA conversion allowed for some amount of space between the diff tube and the spring stack (top picture), whilst my SOA sits flush on top of the tube, with no space whatsoever (lower picture). What gives here? Inquisitive minds want to know

    P.S. Did you use series 60 springs as well (like I have), or were they 40 springs / springs which came originally with the Cherokee?

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    The Phantom Of City Sadar Road -370647

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    Just a few pics I took sir.
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    Jamil Ustaad has started the fabrication of the rear end of the passenger cabin, today.

    It looks completely @#$%ing hot!

    Sorry...no pictures, of this!
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    Fouad U are going for Hardtop or softop ? if you make as a truck it may looks awsam.

    What is your plan ?

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    This PIcTURE may good to get idea. Goodluck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daudbros View Post
    Fouad U are going for Hardtop or softop ? if you make as a truck it may looks awsam.

    What is your plan ?
    It is going to be both. Hard-top (removable) as well as soft-top (canvas). However, it is going to have a rear "daala" like a pick-up. The pick-up tub, of course, will be removable, too.

    Thanks for the picture. it's very inspiring!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awais_jan View Post
    The Phantom Of City Sadar Road - 370995

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    Thank you for the pictures, Awais Jan. The Icon FJ44 (from your pictures, as well as those of Suhaib Saab) has certainly served as a basis for reference, during the rebuild process of the Phantom. However, the actual build of the beast is closer to what I had originally envisaged for it. That is, a four door four wheel drive pickup, that can be reduced to the barest possible parts, simply by unbolting a few bolts.

    If you take a look at the picture below, you'll see what I mean. This picture of a white double-cabin pickup is actually a photoshop picture (it doesn't really exist)...but the physical rebuild of the Phantom is almost identical to this reference picture. The only differences between the Phantom and this white double-cabin, are that the Phantom has bigger wheels, is significantly higher, much broader, and will have a removable hard top and removable "daala". Insha Allah, it will also have a simply superb interior, upholstery, hot and cool climate control, a terrifying sound system, GPS, WiFi, and an internally built roll-cage which will serve as the frame for its optional bikini top, as well.

    Wish me luck, please, in achieving all of these difficult to accomplish goals!


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    I Think Jameel Ustad Making batter FJ then this gray FJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daudbros View Post
    I Think Jameel Ustad Making batter FJ then this gray FJ.
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