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    When I first started this thread, I had just taken delivery of a stock, recently-auctioned 1984 TLC FJ40.

    Gaari to khareed lee, lekin I had little/no idea of what I was going to end up doing to the vehicle. For a very long time, I planned to give it a "decent" sort of makeover: something involving some nice tyres, a respectable paint-job, comfortable seats, a roll cage, and that's about it. At that time, little did I know what was in store for me...

    Somewhere along the line, this project developed a life of its own. Baaton baaton mein, it metamorphosed from being a quick, run-of-the-mill restoration into something quite ambitious and challenging. Something that was in-your-face, and in-your-guts. Something, the likes of which we had seen chronicled in the pages of Off Roader magazines...but something which we'd never really attempted back home.

    This rebuild is STILL ongoing. It's far from over, just yet. But along the way, it's indeed become something which seems to have a life of its own. Ironically, this as-yet-unfinished vehicle has developed a...character.

    While it may not be the most ego-stroking fact...a lot of people know "The Phantom...jiss ka maalik woh Fouad Hafeez hai"...rather than knowing "Fouad Hafeez...jiss ke paas woh Phantom hai"

    Also, along the way, this vehicle has been instrumental in my making a huge number of friends, acquaintances, and well-wishers alike. Without a doubt, all of these people are gentlemen; sporting enthusiasts, and engine afficianados, and automotive hobbyists...with whom, a common love for the sport, has brought us to common ground. Their support, good wishes, advice, expert opinions, constructive criticism, and attention to detail, has made this hunk of steel slowly emerge into its current shape. I have no doubt that the end product will be a fusion of the ideas and aspirations of all of these friends, acquaintances, and well-wishers. To all of you; my deepest gratitude. It has been (and will be) one helluva ride, so far!

    For now, though, this thread (having picked up over 700 replies) is going to undergo some TLC of its own. A chronicle (in pictures) of all the water that's flown under the bridge, thus far, as we progress towards the desired end state (shown in the last picture of this post). Let the photos begin!

    And...I think it's about time for some of the photos to change here, too.

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    Back from a very informative visit to a triumvirate of Ustaads. Two of them were engine/suspension/transmission specialists, and one of them was a differential kabaariya.

    Apparently, to obtain the correct gear ratios for the tyres, I'm going to have to sacrifice on the differential lockers. The closest possible guchcha for the wheels is a 6:37 one (by Dyna, as Suhaib Kiani Sb had pointed out). Well, it transpires that this WILL fit into a 40/60/80 diff, but will NOT be able to fit in, if the diff has locks.

    Consensus amongst the experts was that it would be easy to find a diff lock set intended for high speeds, but for extra low-speed power (which would entail the above-mentioned guchcha / ring and pinion change), the diff locks would have to be dispensed with, OR a desi-made guchcha of the right size might have to be made.

    Of course, such a desi-made guchcha would hardly stand any chance of surviving the tremendous torque and pressure, anyways...thereby rendering the entire exercise pointless.

    Silver lining to all of this is, that the 6:37 guchcha (approx Rs. 14-15,000) would fit comfortably in the stock diffs of the FJ, thus eliminating the need to buy a different set of front and rear diffs (Cruising diffs were being quoted at Rs. 1,35,000). The reduction in width by sticking to stock diffs rather than series 60 or series 80 diffs (which are approx three and four inches wider respectively, than series 40 diffs), can be made up by using 2 inch spacers at each end. This is also likely to help in accommodating the wheels. Whew.

    MAY END UP STICKING TO STOCK DIFFS, WITH EITHER A GUCHCHA CHANGE, OR A PINION-KADA CHANGE.

    Will require a jugaar for the all-round disc brakes, though. Which I'm not really averse to, seeing as how I might save Rs. 1,20,000 on unnecessary diffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuhaibKiani View Post
    As per my back of the envelope workings, with these tires you would need a diff ratio of around 5.25 for comparable performance tfo 33 inch tires on the stock 4.1 (10:41) diffs. As a compromise, you could go for 4.88 (8:39) which would run the 33s with torque and get you by on the 42s. Ideally the ratio seems to be 5.29 (7:37).

    You could get the 1996 80 series diffs with lockers and from what I understand you could replace the ring pinion with a Toyota Dyna set which should be available in both these ratios i.e. 4.88 (8:39) and 5.29 (7:37). The conversion process is tedious but what I understand the swap should be possible albeit it is simpler and and tested with 60 series diffs. On 80 series diffs, I have only read on the net that the swap should be doable even though its not been done here.... Anyways some more research required on this!

    Incase the above sounds nice unnecessary chatter pls see pic below of an FJ40 on 42s (sorry could not find a smaller one!). Note the diffs are Rockwells with ratios of 6+ (or something like that).....
    Kiani Saab...I have a whole slew of queries, if I can request your indulgence.

    From my interaction with the local Ustaadjis today, I've been led to believe that there is a 6:37 Toyota Dyna set, whilst your post mentions a 7:37 set of Dyna. First off...which one is correct, Boss? Secondly, the gear ratio works out to 6.16 (for 6:37) as against a "desired" ratio of 5.46 for my wheels. Is that good enough? And what would this sort of gearing imply? Greater low range power? Higher top speed?

    As I'd mentioned in an earlier post, the series 80 diffs with lockers won't take the 6:37 (or 7:37) ring and pinion. Which would imply that the diff locks addition I was hoping for, is apparently out of the question, within the resources of the local market. Do the series 60 diffs come with lockers? Alternatively, do you have any advice for something that might be imported from abroad to get the gear ratios along with the diff locks issue addressed?

    You were spot on with the idea of sticking to stock FJ40 diffs, too. If I stick to the stock diffs, would you recommend that I change the entire guchcha, or just the kada-pinion?

    Back to the engine question...(at the risk of sounding repetitious)...diesel or petrol? Please be kind enough to narrow down the choice to one or two which would be the best, in your opinion.

    With advance thanks...Fouad.

    P.S. I've noticed that most of the times, when you've posted a post, I've been too technically inept / dim-witted to understand it fully. Oftentimes days later, when I'm going through the thread again, after having taken the long route with the mechanics, I realise..."so THIS is what SuhaibKiani was talking about!"
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    Waaaah.. .. Took me 30 minutes to go through the last few pages of the thread after Suhaib bhai told me about the 42s and your plans.. Lovely tires.. There is so much to be said. This is pretty exciting indeed.. I will just mention a few points. These are just what little I understand about using oversized tires under a 4x4.
    In my humble opinion, anyone who is planning to use larger tires (anything above 33s) under a 4x4 needs to look into mods to the following (not complete list i am sure) regions

    1. Suspension, Suspension
    2. Gearing - Including Trans and diffs
    3. Breaking
    4. Stearing Geometry
    5. Proper Traction bar setup for all the power to be put onto the earth
    6. Engine
    7. Body Trimming and Proper Roll cage
    8. Did I list Suspension!!!!


    Below are just few random thoughts some of the above topics

    Suspension:
    With all the discussions about the gear and diff ratios already being discussed, I would point out here that the suspension is what it one very important factor. People usually use larger leaf springs from full size 4x4s (usually wagoneers) for over sized tires and SOA. This helps increase the wheel base as well which, with 42 specially, is very helpful. Then you have to look into what sort of traction bar setup you would like to build to cater for the axle wrap issues that comes along with the SOA. There are various setups that can be worked on and this is a must. Proper sized shocks are indispensable

    Stearing Geometry.
    A LOT of work has to be done in this department. You see when you do a SOA and put on larger tires you end up with an altered caster. (More information on this here). To correct this you have to cut the front differential housing, turn and then re-weld them so that your stearing vector force on the wheels remains horizontal. We did that on a 60 series diffs on our Cherokee when we SOAed it in 2010 for the first time. It worked great in the Mud rally that followed. (Thread on IJC here). You will have to do some reading to understand why you need to get this done.
    I swapped the stearing box of the cherokee (previously a 60 series one) to a 80 series after I burnt it in one our offroad events. I dont know if the 80 series one would hold up to the 42s. Internationally people use hydraulic stearing more than the conventional setup but that is another Punga in itself here.

    Engine.
    In my opinion, 1FZ or UZs would be great as will be the larger diesels. But what it all boils down to is your gearing. It the gearing is done right, you can get decent capabilities from either engines. Look at the Mogs. Small engine with amazing power. If one could replace the engine in a Mog with a V8 (not possible because of vulnerability of different parts involved in the transfer of the power to the tires) you would get power and better speed. So in my opinion you should play with the other departments first. Fine tune your vehicle to the 42s first. The suspension, shocks, traction bars, diffs, transmission, body trimming, stearing etc...

    I could go on and on.. . Best of luck. Dont compromise on anything in the build. The mechanics would tend to say "is ki zaroorat nahi hai sir gi" or "sir ji thora chul kai thik ho jai gi" etc etc. Read up (its all been done before and its on the net somewhere) about each aspect and dont compromise on the details. Amazing project. Hats off to you for getting your arms deep into the grease.
    Ehsan

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    Here is an indepth article by Billavista on Pirate4x4 about the 42 Supper Swampers. The Tires seem to be the same ones as yours.
    Click here

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehsankiani View Post
    Waaaah.. .. Took me 30 minutes to go through the last few pages of the thread after Suhaib bhai told me about the 42s and your plans.. Lovely tires.. There is so much to be said. This is pretty exciting indeed.. I will just mention a few points. These are just what little I understand about using oversized tires under a 4x4.
    In my humble opinion, anyone who is planning to use larger tires (anything above 33s) under a 4x4 needs to look into mods to the following (not complete list i am sure) regions

    1. Suspension, Suspension
    2. Gearing - Including Trans and diffs
    3. Breaking
    4. Stearing Geometry
    5. Proper Traction bar setup for all the power to be put onto the earth
    6. Engine
    7. Body Trimming and Proper Roll cage
    8. Did I list Suspension!!!!


    Below are just few random thoughts some of the above topics

    Suspension:
    With all the discussions about the gear and diff ratios already being discussed, I would point out here that the suspension is what it one very important factor. People usually use larger leaf springs from full size 4x4s (usually wagoneers) for over sized tires and SOA. This helps increase the wheel base as well which, with 42 specially, is very helpful. Then you have to look into what sort of traction bar setup you would like to build to cater for the axle wrap issues that comes along with the SOA. There are various setups that can be worked on and this is a must. Proper sized shocks are indispensable

    Stearing Geometry.
    A LOT of work has to be done in this department. You see when you do a SOA and put on larger tires you end up with an altered caster. (More information on this here). To correct this you have to cut the front differential housing, turn and then re-weld them so that your stearing vector force on the wheels remains horizontal. We did that on a 60 series diffs on our Cherokee when we SOAed it in 2010 for the first time. It worked great in the Mud rally that followed. (Thread on IJC here). You will have to do some reading to understand why you need to get this done.
    I swapped the stearing box of the cherokee (previously a 60 series one) to a 80 series after I burnt it in one our offroad events. I dont know if the 80 series one would hold up to the 42s. Internationally people use hydraulic stearing more than the conventional setup but that is another Punga in itself here.

    Engine.
    In my opinion, 1FZ or UZs would be great as will be the larger diesels. But what it all boils down to is your gearing. It the gearing is done right, you can get decent capabilities from either engines. Look at the Mogs. Small engine with amazing power. If one could replace the engine in a Mog with a V8 (not possible because of vulnerability of different parts involved in the transfer of the power to the tires) you would get power and better speed. So in my opinion you should play with the other departments first. Fine tune your vehicle to the 42s first. The suspension, shocks, traction bars, diffs, transmission, body trimming, stearing etc...

    I could go on and on.. . Best of luck. Dont compromise on anything in the build. The mechanics would tend to say "is ki zaroorat nahi hai sir gi" or "sir ji thora chul kai thik ho jai gi" etc etc. Read up (its all been done before and its on the net somewhere) about each aspect and dont compromise on the details. Amazing project. Hats off to you for getting your arms deep into the grease.
    Ehsan
    Words of encouragement like yours, more than make a project like this worthwhile. Thank you for that!

    With over a 100 posts from me, already...and with only ONE major purchase in hand (the 42s themselves), you can probably figure out that I'm being very VERY deliberate about everything involved with the eventual rebuild. In many ways, this project is completely different from any I've attempted before...which were mostly restoration projects, with some tweaks and goodies added.

    Definitely, the first part is going to be the suspension. Followed by the suspension. Then, perhaps I'll pay some attention to the suspension. Oh...did I mention the suspension? LOL. For that, the 2F is going to stick around until the gear ratios, diff ratios, SOA, SR, long-travel shocks, axle presses, transmission issues, brake linkages, steering problems, etcetera, are thoroughly ironed out. Probably on a rolling chassis, sans the body.

    In fact, I'm personally, pretty much inclined for the body to be built around the chassis, only AFTER everything's been sorted out well and proper. Now that it's become amply clear that these tyres cannot be alternated with any other "sane" tire size, come what may...I think it's changed my entire view of what this vehicle is eventually going to become. Eik punga hi sahi!

    Zindagi rahi, tau dekhenge kya banta hai, Insha Allah.

    Will be looking forward for continuous support and guidance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehsankiani View Post
    Here is an indepth article by Billavista on Pirate4x4 about the 42 Supper Swampers. The Tires seem to be the same ones as yours.
    Click here
    Wah! Great link!

    DEFINITE in-depth reading warranted!

    (and yes...they're the same as his tyres, except his are 15/42-16.5, whilst mine are 15/42-15)
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    Quote Originally Posted by fouadhafeez View Post
    Wah! Great link!

    DEFINITE in-depth reading warranted!

    (and yes...they're the same as his tyres, except his are 15/42-16.5, whilst mine are 15/42-15)
    Add bead-locks to the list too so you can run on 5 PSI all around
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    Quote Originally Posted by fouadhafeez View Post
    Kiani Saab...I have a whole slew of queries, if I can request your indulgence.

    From my interaction with the local Ustaadjis today, I've been led to believe that there is a 6:37 Toyota Dyna set, whilst your post mentions a 7:37 set of Dyna. First off...which one is correct, Boss? Secondly, the gear ratio works out to 6.16 (for 6:37) as against a "desired" ratio of 5.46 for my wheels. Is that good enough? And what would this sort of gearing imply? Greater low range power? Higher top speed?

    As I'd mentioned in an earlier post, the series 80 diffs with lockers won't take the 6:37 (or 7:37) ring and pinion. Which would imply that the diff locks addition I was hoping for, is apparently out of the question, within the resources of the local market. Do the series 60 diffs come with lockers? Alternatively, do you have any advice for something that might be imported from abroad to get the gear ratios along with the diff locks issue addressed?

    You were spot on with the idea of sticking to stock FJ40 diffs, too. If I stick to the stock diffs, would you recommend that I change the entire guchcha, or just the kada-pinion?

    Back to the engine question...(at the risk of sounding repetitious)...diesel or petrol? Please be kind enough to narrow down the choice to one or two which would be the best, in your opinion.

    With advance thanks...Fouad.

    P.S. I've noticed that most of the times, when you've posted a post, I've been too technically inept / dim-witted to understand it fully. Oftentimes days later, when I'm going through the thread again, after having taken the long route with the mechanics, I realise..."so THIS is what SuhaibKiani was talking about!"
    Darn I wrote a long story and lost it in the posting

    Your welcome, its a pleasure to share my thoughts here and a relief that what I have been saying is resonably on target. Ehsan's big post was really good in putting things in the right perspective here....

    The Dyna diffs should be available in both 6 and 7 pinions, I am not 100% sure but I think the seven ratio is 7:37 which theoretically works with 42s and a decent engine....

    My preference would be for a khotta diesel engine like the 2H or 12HT at most. Even the 1HDT is a wee bit too fancy in my view for this no nonsense operation....

    Inaddition to hybrid 40/Dyna diffs, you need to debate and look into possibility of going (i) fully Dyna diffs and (ii) Unimog axles from the bigger auctioned mogs (don't remember the number as they're too big for me.

    Now if TU can shed some light on (ii) things would start to get really interesting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuhaibKiani View Post
    Inaddition to hybrid 40/Dyna diffs, you need to debate and look into possibility of going (i) fully Dyna diffs and (ii) Unimog axles from the bigger auctioned mogs (don't remember the number as they're too big for me.

    Now if TU can shed some light on (ii) things would start to get really interesting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ehsankiani View Post
    Add bead-locks to the list too so you can run on 5 PSI all around
    Ehsan
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuhaibKiani View Post
    The Dyna diffs should be available in both 6 and 7 pinions, I am not 100% sure but I think the seven ratio is 7:37 which theoretically works with 42s and a decent engine....

    My preference would be for a khotta diesel engine like the 2H or 12HT at most. Even the 1HDT is a wee bit too fancy in my view for this no nonsense operation....
    Offhand, I've come to know that the 7:37 (5.29) pinion-kada IS available. I'll be getting more feedback on that from the local Ustaadji, as to whether THAT can be fitted to a diff lock handa, or not. Apparently, the 6:37 wallah cannot.

    Early morning starting today confirms some blow to the 2F engine. Another reason to get it changed, rather than spend money on it.

    (Note: clearly, the Kiani brothers have an ongoing local debate amongst themselves on the petrol / diesel engine issue. No points for guessing who's backing who!)
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    Ok...the 7:37 guchcha doesn't work with diff lock axles (60/80 series TLC) either.

    It WILL however, fit perfectly into the stock FJ diffs.

    The (fewer) 7 "teeth" of the 7:37 guchcha makes it a strong one, in comparison to other diffs which have more teeth (10:41, 10:37, 8:39 etc).

    No diff locks however, would mean that some of the power and traction would be lost.

    The 7:37 guchcha is available in Peshawar for approx Rs. 27-28,000.

    Depending on the condition of the guchcha in my FJ40, it's price should range between Rs. 13,000 to Rs. 25,000.

    Theoretically speaking, the gear ratio issue should be solved at little additional cost.

    The 5.29 ratio of the 7:37 guchcha is PERFECT for 42 inch tyres, as seen from the table below.

    (Key: Yellow = Good fuel economy, low power. Green = Best overall. Suitable as daily driver. Red = Maximum power, Low economy, High engine revs)

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    @Fouad bhai: It was lovely seeing you as well Sir. Thanks to FJ's that made it possible. And thank you Sir for liking my FJ-40. Such kind comments and that too coming from a senior ICBian, mean a lot to me. Although, I have been through the process of restoration yet, it is a delight to read your thread. Will keep in touch Sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fouadhafeez View Post
    Ok...the 7:37 guchcha doesn't work with diff lock axles (60/80 series TLC) either.

    It WILL however, fit perfectly into the stock FJ diffs.

    The (fewer) 7 "teeth" of the 7:37 guchcha makes it a strong one, in comparison to other diffs which have more teeth (10:41, 10:37, 8:39 etc).

    No diff locks however, would mean that some of the power and traction would be lost.

    The 7:37 guchcha is available in Peshawar for approx Rs. 27-28,000.

    Depending on the condition of the guchcha in my FJ40, it's price should range between Rs. 13,000 to Rs. 25,000.

    Theoretically speaking, the gear ratio issue should be solved at little additional cost.

    The 5.29 ratio of the 7:37 guchcha is PERFECT for 42 inch tyres, as seen from the table below.

    (Key: Yellow = Good fuel economy, low power. Green = Best overall. Suitable as daily driver. Red = Maximum power, Low economy, High engine revs)

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    Good going! Have you looked at the possibility of replacing complete diffs with a Dyna 4x4 set. This would be more solid and also be significantly wider. Probably not all that cheap but better than 100 series axles

    I think it would be wortwhile to also look at replacing gearbox with Dyna box as it is heavy duty stuff with better gear ratios as well. Some info here on conversions into Hilux (which I feel is also done out here) : H/Duty 5 Speed Trans
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuhaibKiani View Post
    I think it would be wortwhile to also look at replacing gearbox with Dyna box as it is heavy duty stuff with better gear ratios as well. Some info here on conversions into Hilux (which I feel is also done out here) : H/Duty 5 Speed Trans
    Interesting read there, Kiani Saab. Theoretically, it sounds like a great idea. I'm not so sure about the implementation of it, though. I'm a very firm believer in the "what you see is what you get" theory. There are inherent problems with getting untried items from abroad, which our Ustaads are unfamiliar with, or not-too-familiar with.

    The 1FZ-FE engine with its gearbox is something which I'm fairly familiar with. During the course of my service I've tried to chase down enough people driving vehicles fitted with them (mostly, unsuccessfully). In terms of power, reliability, and hardiness, it's a decent enough engine. The gearbox is robust enough to take the sort of beating that the harsh climes of Western Balochistan offer, so it should find the sort of off-roading that we're likely to subject it to, a walk in the park. The engine and gear come ready-mated...thereby minimising the need for much jugaar. And this last aspect preys very heavily on my mind, as will be revealed in the next post...which will finally outlay my plans for this project, in as much detail, as is possible...
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    Within this thread, one of the very basic questions asked by the elder Kiani Saab actually prompted me to start thinking: what do I want from this vehicle?

    The answer took a lot of pondering about, and mental hand-wringing before I finally found the answer.

    In my "stable" this FJ is joining a pair of other beasts.

    My Range Rover HSE is a beautiful machine. Impeccable pedigree. Stunning looks. Great off-road performance. Near-perfect road manners. It is as exciting as it can be unflappable. As temperamental as it can be ecstatic to drive. Opulent, as well as old-school understated.

    Then there's my FZJ79...which is an equally beautiful machine. It's raw, unbridled, macho good-looks coupled with a simplicity, reliability, and dependability which border on the indestructible. As a departure from the RR, I'd spent a great deal of time, making it the beast that would start its journey where the HSE would stop.

    And now, the FJ.

    Perhaps it's a case of trying to push the envelope, and explore automotive and artistic "boundaries". Subconsciously, perhaps, that's why I bought the most impractical set of wheels imaginable, within minutes of laying eyes on them. These wheels alone DEMAND a vehicle that is unordinary, in concept and utility. A vehicle that starts ITS journey, where the FZJ would stop.

    I'd always loved the look of the old school FJ45...despite having a Toyota pickup (the FZJ79). So...the natural course of action for me, whilst rebuilding an FJ40 into an FJ45 lookalike would be to call it an FJ405.

    This is what I'm planning to do:-

    Body. Elongating the wheelbase to medium length. An FJ45 cabin, which in size, is something between a single cabin and a double cabin...call it a "king-cab" size, if you will...which would be big enough to accommodate me (I'm tall!), another passenger, and speakers, shotguns, ammunition, and the odd pointer kutta behind the seats. This cabin would have a removable, bolt-on roof, and an inner-built roll cage...allowing the option to remove the roof, doors and roll down the front windscreen...for an open-air experience. The rear of the frame would house a pickup bed in the rear, which would have its own roll cage, somewhat similar in design to the cabin cage). These two roll-cages (when combined) would make a single "compartment" which could take a bikini top and/or canvas top should the need arise. In addition to stock doors, I'll be getting a pair of tube doors, made out of pipes for the open-air experience. The pickup "tub" too would be removable, and you would be able to bolt on a piped "jangla" instead, for when you'd want to do some real HAIRY off-roading. Alternately, you could just leave the space behind the cabin vacant, altogether. Wheel arches of course, would have to be shorn, widened, and raised so as to accommodate the oversized wheels. Rock-sliders which would double as sidebars. A self-fashioned snorkel system, in chrome. Shorn bumpers to make sure there's no interference with the large tyres.

    Suspension / Underpinnings. This rig is going to be big. I think it'll be raised / lifted by at least a foot...if not 15 inches. An SOA conversion is definitely on the cards. Special attention on the "perches". Longer, bent springs, too. Long-travel shocks. Perhaps double shocks at the rear. A shackle reversal. All round disc brakes. The appropriate ring and pinion / diff change. Spacers...to widen the vehicle's stance, and (in tandem with the extra-wide tyres and negative offset rims) somewhat balance the massive increase in ride height.

    Mechanicals. 1FZ-FE engine and gearbox. Power steering. Free-flow exhaust (I have this recurring image of an upright silencer emerging just behind the cabin, like a Volvo truck). CNG kit, with dual-mounted CNG tanks for those fuel-guzzling rides TO the offroad sites.

    Interior. Prado dashboard. Prado seats. Air-conditioning. A decent sound system. Gun racks. Built-in cargo compartments. A fridge / hot-box. Latex coating of the cabin floor, overcoated with easy-to wash plastic foot-mats.

    Miscellaneous Builds
    . A bikini top (for just the cabin area, and the entire vehicle area). Canvas pockets for the tube-doors.

    Of course...this will be subject to continuous review / updating. I have this feeling, that over the next few months, I'm going to need...

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    I think the Phantom FJ405 will be somewhat of a combination of both of these beasts...


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    I was eagerly waiting for this conclusive post.

    BRAVO! Sir, I pray & wish to see this great conceived project to surpass our projections & expectations. Aameen

    All the very best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehsankiani View Post
    Here is an indepth article by Billavista on Pirate4x4 about the 42 Supper Swampers. The Tires seem to be the same ones as yours.
    Click here
    Read the article from start to finish. In fact "devoured the article" would be more appropriate!

    You sure know how to make a man feel happy about his purchases, Kiani Saab!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tareen View Post
    I was eagerly waiting for this conclusive post.

    BRAVO! Sir, I pray & wish to see this great conceived project to surpass our projections & expectations. Aameen

    All the very best.
    God bless, Brother. Hope it works out for the best. And even if it doesn't...I'm sure my life will be richer for the experience!
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