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    Default The Cholistan Jeep Rally 2012 Report: IJC Rally Team Concordia and Team Saidhi

    Well, how can I even begin to tell, the tale is long and one always struggles with words when Doctor NN is missing. To make an attempt at laying out the story, which is a bit overdue (though not without benefits of better media coverage) but nevertheless is worthy of doing justice to. ….

    The Cholistan Jeep Rally 2012 Report: IJC Rally Team Concordia and Team Saidhi - filephp?id9832
    The Cholistan Jeep Rally organized by TDCP is the biggest and the most prestigious event on the Pakistan offroad and motorsport calendar. The rally was not held last year primarily on account of crowd security concerns and this year it was being eagerly anticipated by enthusiasts and participants following a very successful Jhal Magsi rally in late 2011. So the 7th Cholistan Jeep Rally held on February 16th -19th turned out to be a landmark event with the organizers assisted by Mr Mehmood Majeed (Bhawalpur 4x4 Club) managed to pulled a fast one on the participants with a major re-designing of the track. Over 70 vehicles participated in the hugely successful event that spanned over 4 days with registration/technical inspection in Bahawalpur on the 16th followed by recce/pre-running, qualification and race days. A very large number of spectators and enthusiasts from all over the country came to the Derawar Fort in Bahawalpur which serves as the starting and finishing point of the rally.

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    There has always been great enthusiasm at the Islamabad Jeep Club for the Cholistan Rally ever since the last adventure by Doc NN and DesertDevil Asad Marwat. This year, with Doc NN missing from the register, two IJC vehicles had been registered to enter the rally: Asad’s Mitsubishi Pajero and yours truly on the IJC Project FJ40 Concordia. Unfortunately on the last minute, Asad Marwat could not attend the event on account of the sudden death of a close family member. Apart from sharing Asad’s grief this was obviously a significant setback for us as Asad is always instrumental in all rally aspects and we felt kinda lost as we were starting out. Our new hosts for the event were Team Evo Saidhi lead by our old friend, Qasim Saidhi who accommodated us next to their camp and helped us get comfortable with the terrain and the surroundings of Cholistan. Our good friend, Adnan Siddiqui on his Hilux Vigo was the other participant from Islamabad.

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    By way of a race summary, Nadir Magsi took the category A and overall podium on his Toyota Tacoma which was running a turbo charged 1GR 4.0L V6. Ronnie Patel’s modified Mitsubishi Pajero Evolution suffered engine failure in the second half after reportedly leading the race at mid point. Anas Khakwani and Zafar Magsi took Category A and overall second and third positions respectively in Mitsubishi Pajero Evolutions. In the Hilux Vigo dominated category B, Bahawalpur’s own Makhdum Amir Abbas took first in on a while Awais Khakwani stood second and Jam Kamal Khan third. The very competitive Category C saw Mehrab Khan on his Hilux Vigo on the podium with Mehmood Majeed second on a beautifully styled Hilux Vigo. Ali Magsi on a Nissan Patrol took a hard fought third place edging out Mian Shabir Bhurjundiwalley’s Suzuki Jimny and Syed Asif Imam’s Mitsubishi Pajero. Category D, always a Suzuki Jumny affair saw Mian Rafiq Ahmed take first, Khan Muhammad second and Mian Zubair Ahmed taking third just getting past Ghulam Hussain Sharr.

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    The race saw around 40% of the a total 70 participating vehicles not being able to reach the finish line mainly on account of a major re-design of the race track across the sands of the Cholistan desert. This year’s track in addition to involving negotiation of a number of very tall sand dunes with soft sand, largely did away with the traditional Cholistan straight runs across in favour of small winding tracks through much of the 210 km distance. Most drivers categorized the track as very demanding with greater stress on vehicle suspensions than previous Cholistan rallies. The traditional Cholistani variation and deterioration in the track with the progress of the race apparently played in significantly with the majority of the later starting vehicles suffering. The two soft sand dunes prior to stage break appear to have been a major hurdle with several vehicles getting stuck and half of the Jimny pack ending up with DNFs.

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    In that respect the starting order determined by the previous day’s qualification round was important albeit not as decisive as in Jhal Magsi where dust factor renders overtaking virtually impossible. This year’s qualification track was mainly the same as previous rallies though slightly shorter at around 2.4kms long. The track was a combination of deep sand runs and whoops and having gotten an early draw our FJ40 Concordia made the best of its power advantage to register a good time of 2 1. Ronnie Patel was fastest in the middle of the pack at 1:44 up until Nadir Magsi put up 1:38 on the board to claim pole position. Qasim Saidhi also put up an impressive 1:51 despite having landed nose down with slight damage to his Evo in the mid track whoops on his first recce run. Perhaps the performances of the day were by the Khakwanis with Awais registering 1:51 on his Vigo despite a front tire coming off the bead on the last turn and Anas closing at 1:50 on his Evo. Adnan Siddiqui and Rahid Abdullah were exceptional with 2 1 on a B category Vigo and C category Triton respectively.

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    For the experienced rally campaigner and our good friend Qasim Saidhi, it would actually be the first time crossing the Cholistan finish line after disappointments in previous attempts. Following his recent podium finishes in Jhal Magsi and Nooriabad and his past accolades as a category D Jimny driver, Qasim has come to be considered the man to watch with his multi-talented navigator Rizwan Buttar’s calm assistance. Qasim finished 5th in Category A after a flat tire slowing him down along with managing to get stuck on the sand dunes twice. It was encouraging to see that his very well prepared Mitsubishi Evolution had been sponsored by ZIC and PTCL Evo for the race. We are truly thankful to Qasim, Rizwan and their crew for hosting us and helping us throughout the event, without which we probably would have not have made it out there and participated in the event.
    The Cholistan Jeep Rally 2012 Report: IJC Rally Team Concordia and Team Saidhi - filephp?id9833
    As for us, the IJC Rally Team Concordia which set out to do something no one though was worth doing or even doable as such: race a restored/modified FJ40 at Cholistan and put up a competitive showing despite low-budgets and second hand parts. In our first sandy desert outing, after an early draw and strong showing at qualification, we started the race a 17th off of a competitive grid of over 70 participants. Right after the start, we got somewhat distracted negotiating the tremendous crowd and made a silly navigational error that cost us over 30 minutes. Keeping our pace together after that was not easy but having been released of any tension to lodge a competitive finishing time, we ended up trying a number of cocky things from sideways drifting, long air jumps to short ballistic runs pushing the limits of the car. We were making good progress despite our second-hand shocks fading away fast up until we managed to get stuck on the first sand dune. In our attempts to dig our tires out of the sand, we stumbled upon a very agile sand serpent emerging from under the front tire to register his appreciation of the sexy BFG MTs. After pushing the car out with the help of some spectators, we followed a steady pace to the finish line though still losing some time on account of minor mechanical issues. So in the end, while we may not have a podium finish to show for our adventure, together with having qualified 17th , matched top speed of 150kmph with some of fastest cars and having finished the race and we can pen it down as a significant achievement on our part given limitations. We did gather more media footage than perhaps ever available on any recent rally in Pakistan.




    In the end, while offroad racing all over the world remains a dangerous and expensive sport, with the grace of the Almighty, offroad rallies in Pakistan have maintained a good safety record for both participants and spectators despite budgetary constraints, organization difficulties and limited sponsor support. This year saw a healthy increase in sponsorships with RedBull, Zong, PTCL, PSO, Toyota, Guard and others highlighting their brands through official support to participants. Another focus of Pakistan rally promoters is to focus on international participation and for the future IJC Team Concordia is also looking actively to build our existing partnership with the Pheonix 4405 Land Use Buggy based out of California USA.
    The Cholistan Jeep Rally 2012 Report: IJC Rally Team Concordia and Team Saidhi - filephp?id10145

    Photo & Video Credits: Nashit Ashraf, Suhaib Kiani, Mohammad Siddique, Iqbal Ghangla and Mehroze Kiani

    Link to full race results :
    http://www.ijc.com.pk/forum/viewtopi...start=45#p7856

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuhaibKiani View Post



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    hahaha good one SK "V8 all taxes paid"
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    ^^^^ LOL.
    Must have hurt some of the fuedals!

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    I will miss her, that RKR. She will always be the one that got away.
    But, life goes on. From RKR to MMC. 4x4 Engaged? Team Unimog, Pakistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by MITSU_MAN View Post
    @Sk

    Very nicely covered and great driving too! Potential is now gaining momentum and we hope to witness you giving the big guns the run for their money in years to follow, Inshallah!

    @Saidhi

    Flying jimny to flying evo....that's pure Red Bull stuff....keep doing us proud, amigo!
    Many Thanks @MitsuMan! I think we have one Saidhi to keep the big boys on their toes, may God keep him and his japaanee guriya safe and sound! Its actually quite competitive out there, and the cars aside, desert driving experience and confidence plays in big time ....

    Its quite quite fascinating that if you look at the Category vs Overall results, they are quite consistent through the categories (Category B 1st is 4th overall, Category C 1st is 7th overall etc). To me this goes to show that all the cars were being driven at their absolute limits and the top drivers had to be quite similar in terms of talent and abilities to remain that consistent with the cars being the key difference!
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    @Saidhi: Is this on the down sloping whoops after the slight right turn just after start? Would have been interesting if we had a camera close on this area, as video would be very interesting! Nadir Magsi is indeed really a tremendously skilled driver....

    Quote Originally Posted by saidhi View Post
    Tacoma unleashed

    Nadir Bhai loosing it a bit during Qualifying

    During rally, everyone looses control of their vehicles, good drivers manage to control, best drivers do it without wasting any time. Nadir Bhai is a master

    Pictures by Courtesy of Adnan Chaudhary

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    It is really very entertaining watching these pictures & videos again & again
    -It is always Man behind the Machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuhaibKiani View Post
    @Saidhi: Is this on the down sloping whoops after the slight right turn just after start? Would have been interesting if we had a camera close on this area, as video would be very interesting! Nadir Magsi is indeed really a tremendously skilled driver....
    Spot on,,, this was the place to capture flying "THINGS"

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    About 600 meters into the Qualifying Round, there was a sequence of 5 humps, a couple and then three about 100 feet ahead, most 4x4s danced on them because the take offs and landings were uneven, trick was to have the right speed, not less to land on top of a hump and face nasty rebound and not too much to be out of control/shoot over the next.

    Reccee of qualifying, I attempted the sequence at around 90 km/h, result was that i landed on top of the last hump, Evo was almost out of control

    The Cholistan Jeep Rally 2012 Report IJC Rally Team Concordia and Team Saidhi -381896

    During the second run of Qualifying, attempted the same area at around 100 km/h, smooth sailing this time as i took off from the third and landed on the decent of the 5th, clearing the 4th hump while in air, piece of cake

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    Pictures taken by Iqbal Ghangala

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    Quote Originally Posted by raohamid View Post
    SK- this is a genuinely a lovely thread. You have out done yourself with the paraphrasing, commentary and the pictures and videos. Truly, you have become obsessed with rallying, and respect must be given to you for furnishing a passion the way you have. Utmost respect. I have started noticing the vehicles are looking more and more professional with each passing CJR, I'm sure driver skills are being polished too. I have never aspired to rally, but with people like you and some mutual friends, you may just be responsible for passing the bug. Super work.

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    @Rao: Many thanks for the comments! <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    While, I take full responsibility for the rally obsesion and outcomes, I think a full charge sheet would include a host of names with more to do with it than one would think At my end, I just felt that it was perhaps physically, financially and professionally possible for me to do it now rather than later. For Project Concordia it also seemed like the natural progression of things to follow in this direction, particularly with our 4405 partnership. Not sure where things go from here, but its been a great season and we have a lot to be thankful about!
    <o:p></o:p>
    Also around here, the only place one gets a free hand to actually drive fast without and guilt/worries is perhaps your Playstation/Wii and the M2 on quite days. Without any race tracks, drag strips or even good go-kart places etc etc Cholistan and Jhal Magsi are the only two real places where you are told that "its OK, yes its OK, son! Just keep it under control and let it go, race your heart out! One, two, three: GO!" I think it has made me a much better/calmer driver on the road since I've been back <o:p></o:p>
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    As far as the rallying is concerned, I think one thing that holds people back perhaps is some misperceptions about the general environment. I think its a very different impression one gets from the outside than one you take the plunge! I have found people to very welcoming, supportive and genuinely appreciative to our effort! Sure there is a competitive environment, some tough talk and high temps at times but that is only part of the package. In general, I can't say enough about what support and appreciation we got even from prominent people like Ronnie Patel, Ashraf Sb, the Khakwanis, the Burjundhiwalleys and even the Magsis..... <o:p></o:p>
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    On the vehicles, yes they are not only looking more professional, but each one has had some massaging and jugaars in the right places to make them much more competitive then they theoretically ever could be..... more to come on that one! But safety is one area where more can always been done and proper paramedical facilities with possibilities of on-call airlift to a decent trauma facility should be arranged! <o:p></o:p>
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    Default Air Concordia...

    Well hats off to Mr Gangla for capturing these moments at the jumps! The first time I heard that there is a photo of Concordia on FB with all tires in the air, I thought there was some confusion as I never knew that the car was ever completely in the air during this section. What I did know that I have never come closer to breaking a car in two than here (as seen on the vid clip 0:15 to 0:25) and it kinda did freak me out and slow me down during the rest of the run.... well just a lil' I guess
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    Loin Of Desert

    My friend from Ghotki Mr. Allah Buksh, a very talented driver indeed

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    Allah Buksh's Rav4 bottomed twice on the same set of humps, providing some exceptional opportunities for photographers, Adnan Chaudhry did not miss a beat

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    This set of humps tested every suspension to its limits, money spent on quality shockers proved their worth.

    Following set of three pictures taken by Adnan Chaudhary helps explain the difference. Every vehicle crossing a hump at speed will inevitably jump, difference of suspension is in the way it cushions the vehicle during landing and its subsequent rebound behavior, good rally suspension should never send you back in air on rebound, unless of course there was another hump on landing, if it does, scrap that set of shockers from rallies

    Jump

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    Landing with Rebound

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    Mian Farooq Ahmad of Barchunchi in his 1GR powered Surf Kaikra

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    Excellent Thread Sirjee. You know how to push that 1UZ v8. Loved the pics. About that 1GR turbo, is that a single turbo or twin turbo? it looks like it has been tuned by underdog racing equipment. I am about to order Supercharger for my v6 as they solve that high gear low rpm pinging issue.
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    Default Adnan Siddiqui - Hilux Vigo 3.0L TD

    I believe Adnan's very well set-up Vigo was the only other vehicle all the way from Islamabad. After a strong qualification run, the Vigo suffered technical problems early on in the race and had to retire. Knowing how Adnan had waited out on Jhal Magsi in favour of Cholistan, I can only imagine his disappointment. We are thankful to Adnan and his close friend Ali Aden for all their help, advice and support to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saidhi View Post
    Allah Buksh's Rav4 bottomed twice on the same set of humps, providing some exceptional opportunities for photographers, Adnan Chaudhry did not miss a beat
    That RAV4 was very very fast with a qualification time of 1:58! Allah Bukhsh is a nice fellow whom we met somewhere in Jhal along with the Ghulam Hussain troupe. It was sad to see him parked on the side somewhere short of CP 2 or 3. We could not tell if he has crashed or had technical issues, we slowed down and he waved at us and told us to go on.....

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    @SK, amazing thread bro, the details of each participant, there rides, pictures and videos is superb, I havent witnessed a coverage like this before. Hats off the camera guys Nashit Ashraf, Suhaib Kiani, Mohammad Siddique, Iqbal Ghangla and Mehroze Kiani for covering all this, we understand that each rally has a camera team but they havent been presented like this before, U rock!

    Good to see the Support coming from sponsors and promoting (non-political ) rallies in Pakistan, this will definitely bring International teams here to make these events even more eventful!

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    In the end, while offroad racing all over the world remains a dangerous and expensive sport, with the grace of the Almighty, offroad rallies in Pakistan have maintained a good safety record for both participants and spectators despite budgetary constraints, organization difficulties and limited sponsor support. This year saw a healthy increase in sponsorships with RedBull, Zong, PTCL, PSO, Toyota, Guard and others highlighting their brands through official support to participants. Another focus of Pakistan rally promoters is to focus on international participation and for the future IJC Team Concordia is also looking actively to build our existing partnership with the Pheonix 4405 Land Use Buggy based out of California USA.
    The Cholistan Jeep Rally 2012 Report: IJC Rally Team Concordia and Team Saidhi - filephp?id10145

    Photo & Video Credits: Nashit Ashraf, Suhaib Kiani, Mohammad Siddique, Iqbal Ghangla and Mehroze Kiani
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    Negotiations/Pleadings

    Saidhi: Evo Janu, You are the one for me, I will always take good care of you, will always get you the best lubricants, will always take you to the best known mechanics, will always put new/genuine parts in you, don't let me down,,,, please please

    Evo: Brother Slowly,,, I pheel pain (Japanese trying to speak English)

    Saidhi: Dont worry Janu, I am already broke, cant break you on purpose

    Evo: Okay

    The Cholistan Jeep Rally 2012 Report: IJC Rally Team Concordia and Team Saidhi - 381642
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    But here is my interpretation of this snap......

    Saidhi....hun iss waree 3rd naee 1st aanaa hega!

    Evo.......tu gadi sahee chala....her varee tyre phar denda hae!

    Saidhi....bouteeyan galaan na kar.....mae toyota lae aanee hae aglee rally te!

    Evo......achaa....te mey russs ke maekay (mitsu_man de kol) tur jaana aee te unoo teri shikaiyat lanee aee!

    Saidhi....O na na bhaliye lokey.....to mun ja tey rola na pa.... mae te mazak karindeya se....I LUUUVVVVV you.....!
    MEN DO IT AT DAKAR!!!

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    Good one Mitsu Man
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    Default Rashid Abdullah's Mitsubishi Triton TDi

    I believe it was Rashid's first Cholistan Rally following a massive rollover in Jhal 2010 and a disappointing early DNF in Jhal 2011. I believe since Nooriabad rally all his friends had been egging him on to break out of his post rollover blues and I felt that Rashid was out to prove himself and probably somewhat under pressure because of it. After a massive 2: 01 performance at the qualification (2nd Category C car off the grid on raceday), Rashid seems to have run into issues in the second half but nevertheless managed to finish. I am actually relieved that he did because apart from all his zaalim rally friends (shareef bandey kee kaheen jaga nahin!) I understand that all the dials/controls on his chipped TDI seemed to be turned up to "are you nuts" levels and I could smell some funny bits off the exhaust fumes during qualifying. Nevertheless, Rashid is quite the rally tech guru and I am sure he had things well under control. All the best to Rashid and his navigator [Imran] for the future.
    The Cholistan Jeep Rally 2012 Report: IJC Rally Team Concordia and Team Saidhi - filephp?id9882

    The Cholistan Jeep Rally 2012 Report: IJC Rally Team Concordia and Team Saidhi - filephp?id10072

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