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    Default The Cholistan Jeep Rally 2012 Report: IJC Rally Team Concordia and Team Saidhi

    Well, how can I even begin to tell, the tale is long and one always struggles with words when Doctor NN is missing. To make an attempt at laying out the story, which is a bit overdue (though not without benefits of better media coverage) but nevertheless is worthy of doing justice to. ….

    The Cholistan Jeep Rally 2012 Report: IJC Rally Team Concordia and Team Saidhi - filephp?id9832
    The Cholistan Jeep Rally organized by TDCP is the biggest and the most prestigious event on the Pakistan offroad and motorsport calendar. The rally was not held last year primarily on account of crowd security concerns and this year it was being eagerly anticipated by enthusiasts and participants following a very successful Jhal Magsi rally in late 2011. So the 7th Cholistan Jeep Rally held on February 16th -19th turned out to be a landmark event with the organizers assisted by Mr Mehmood Majeed (Bhawalpur 4x4 Club) managed to pulled a fast one on the participants with a major re-designing of the track. Over 70 vehicles participated in the hugely successful event that spanned over 4 days with registration/technical inspection in Bahawalpur on the 16th followed by recce/pre-running, qualification and race days. A very large number of spectators and enthusiasts from all over the country came to the Derawar Fort in Bahawalpur which serves as the starting and finishing point of the rally.

    The Cholistan Jeep Rally 2012 Report: IJC Rally Team Concordia and Team Saidhi - filephp?id10241
    There has always been great enthusiasm at the Islamabad Jeep Club for the Cholistan Rally ever since the last adventure by Doc NN and DesertDevil Asad Marwat. This year, with Doc NN missing from the register, two IJC vehicles had been registered to enter the rally: Asad’s Mitsubishi Pajero and yours truly on the IJC Project FJ40 Concordia. Unfortunately on the last minute, Asad Marwat could not attend the event on account of the sudden death of a close family member. Apart from sharing Asad’s grief this was obviously a significant setback for us as Asad is always instrumental in all rally aspects and we felt kinda lost as we were starting out. Our new hosts for the event were Team Evo Saidhi lead by our old friend, Qasim Saidhi who accommodated us next to their camp and helped us get comfortable with the terrain and the surroundings of Cholistan. Our good friend, Adnan Siddiqui on his Hilux Vigo was the other participant from Islamabad.

    The Cholistan Jeep Rally 2012 Report: IJC Rally Team Concordia and Team Saidhi - filephp?id10041
    By way of a race summary, Nadir Magsi took the category A and overall podium on his Toyota Tacoma which was running a turbo charged 1GR 4.0L V6. Ronnie Patel’s modified Mitsubishi Pajero Evolution suffered engine failure in the second half after reportedly leading the race at mid point. Anas Khakwani and Zafar Magsi took Category A and overall second and third positions respectively in Mitsubishi Pajero Evolutions. In the Hilux Vigo dominated category B, Bahawalpur’s own Makhdum Amir Abbas took first in on a while Awais Khakwani stood second and Jam Kamal Khan third. The very competitive Category C saw Mehrab Khan on his Hilux Vigo on the podium with Mehmood Majeed second on a beautifully styled Hilux Vigo. Ali Magsi on a Nissan Patrol took a hard fought third place edging out Mian Shabir Bhurjundiwalley’s Suzuki Jimny and Syed Asif Imam’s Mitsubishi Pajero. Category D, always a Suzuki Jumny affair saw Mian Rafiq Ahmed take first, Khan Muhammad second and Mian Zubair Ahmed taking third just getting past Ghulam Hussain Sharr.

    The Cholistan Jeep Rally 2012 Report: IJC Rally Team Concordia and Team Saidhi - filephp?id9963
    The race saw around 40% of the a total 70 participating vehicles not being able to reach the finish line mainly on account of a major re-design of the race track across the sands of the Cholistan desert. This year’s track in addition to involving negotiation of a number of very tall sand dunes with soft sand, largely did away with the traditional Cholistan straight runs across in favour of small winding tracks through much of the 210 km distance. Most drivers categorized the track as very demanding with greater stress on vehicle suspensions than previous Cholistan rallies. The traditional Cholistani variation and deterioration in the track with the progress of the race apparently played in significantly with the majority of the later starting vehicles suffering. The two soft sand dunes prior to stage break appear to have been a major hurdle with several vehicles getting stuck and half of the Jimny pack ending up with DNFs.

    The Cholistan Jeep Rally 2012 Report: IJC Rally Team Concordia and Team Saidhi - filephp?id9960
    In that respect the starting order determined by the previous day’s qualification round was important albeit not as decisive as in Jhal Magsi where dust factor renders overtaking virtually impossible. This year’s qualification track was mainly the same as previous rallies though slightly shorter at around 2.4kms long. The track was a combination of deep sand runs and whoops and having gotten an early draw our FJ40 Concordia made the best of its power advantage to register a good time of 2 1. Ronnie Patel was fastest in the middle of the pack at 1:44 up until Nadir Magsi put up 1:38 on the board to claim pole position. Qasim Saidhi also put up an impressive 1:51 despite having landed nose down with slight damage to his Evo in the mid track whoops on his first recce run. Perhaps the performances of the day were by the Khakwanis with Awais registering 1:51 on his Vigo despite a front tire coming off the bead on the last turn and Anas closing at 1:50 on his Evo. Adnan Siddiqui and Rahid Abdullah were exceptional with 2 1 on a B category Vigo and C category Triton respectively.

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    For the experienced rally campaigner and our good friend Qasim Saidhi, it would actually be the first time crossing the Cholistan finish line after disappointments in previous attempts. Following his recent podium finishes in Jhal Magsi and Nooriabad and his past accolades as a category D Jimny driver, Qasim has come to be considered the man to watch with his multi-talented navigator Rizwan Buttar’s calm assistance. Qasim finished 5th in Category A after a flat tire slowing him down along with managing to get stuck on the sand dunes twice. It was encouraging to see that his very well prepared Mitsubishi Evolution had been sponsored by ZIC and PTCL Evo for the race. We are truly thankful to Qasim, Rizwan and their crew for hosting us and helping us throughout the event, without which we probably would have not have made it out there and participated in the event.
    The Cholistan Jeep Rally 2012 Report: IJC Rally Team Concordia and Team Saidhi - filephp?id9833
    As for us, the IJC Rally Team Concordia which set out to do something no one though was worth doing or even doable as such: race a restored/modified FJ40 at Cholistan and put up a competitive showing despite low-budgets and second hand parts. In our first sandy desert outing, after an early draw and strong showing at qualification, we started the race a 17th off of a competitive grid of over 70 participants. Right after the start, we got somewhat distracted negotiating the tremendous crowd and made a silly navigational error that cost us over 30 minutes. Keeping our pace together after that was not easy but having been released of any tension to lodge a competitive finishing time, we ended up trying a number of cocky things from sideways drifting, long air jumps to short ballistic runs pushing the limits of the car. We were making good progress despite our second-hand shocks fading away fast up until we managed to get stuck on the first sand dune. In our attempts to dig our tires out of the sand, we stumbled upon a very agile sand serpent emerging from under the front tire to register his appreciation of the sexy BFG MTs. After pushing the car out with the help of some spectators, we followed a steady pace to the finish line though still losing some time on account of minor mechanical issues. So in the end, while we may not have a podium finish to show for our adventure, together with having qualified 17th , matched top speed of 150kmph with some of fastest cars and having finished the race and we can pen it down as a significant achievement on our part given limitations. We did gather more media footage than perhaps ever available on any recent rally in Pakistan.




    In the end, while offroad racing all over the world remains a dangerous and expensive sport, with the grace of the Almighty, offroad rallies in Pakistan have maintained a good safety record for both participants and spectators despite budgetary constraints, organization difficulties and limited sponsor support. This year saw a healthy increase in sponsorships with RedBull, Zong, PTCL, PSO, Toyota, Guard and others highlighting their brands through official support to participants. Another focus of Pakistan rally promoters is to focus on international participation and for the future IJC Team Concordia is also looking actively to build our existing partnership with the Pheonix 4405 Land Use Buggy based out of California USA.
    The Cholistan Jeep Rally 2012 Report: IJC Rally Team Concordia and Team Saidhi - filephp?id10145

    Photo & Video Credits: Nashit Ashraf, Suhaib Kiani, Mohammad Siddique, Iqbal Ghangla and Mehroze Kiani

    Link to full race results :
    http://www.ijc.com.pk/forum/viewtopi...start=45#p7856

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    Quote Originally Posted by MITSU_MAN View Post
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    Well 'Juggat Bazi' is what we are actually here for.....4x4 thing is just a cover up!
    To your Q.....hmmmm.....well a crude example (if not totally wrong) could be running up a flight of stairs with your shoe laces tied......you could have Ben Johnson's muscular thighs (of course on steroids oozing 760 horses on each step) but still can't take on the Carl Lewis's non-streroidal strides! (pardon me if the quoted names are kinda stone ageish but that, somehow connects well, to this old school daddy here)
    @hahahah! interesting example to drive it home.... im as ancient as you... lewis had a lot more "suspension travel" vs. johnson now that i remember...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MITSU_MAN View Post
    @yaserag
    well a crude example (if not totally wrong) could be running up a flight of stairs with your shoe laces tied......
    o wow, what an example. this is going to my favorite quotes along with SK's "eh, what more could you expect, it was a stupid thing to begin with" while referring to the v8 fj40 madness

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    Quote Originally Posted by yaserag View Post
    @hahahah! interesting example to drive it home.... im as ancient as you... lewis had a lot more "suspension travel" vs. johnson now that i remember...
    @yaserag

    Glad you enjoyed the example!
    And man, you are still very young at JUST 33!
    Trust me, I really don't recall the difference when I was 23 or 33......but comes 43.....and the horses seriously start going down!
    But that's still a long way to go for you, and till then, you are looking good at 33 (Mashallah)!
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    Quote Originally Posted by usama37 View Post
    o wow, what an example. this is going to my favorite quotes along with SK's "eh, what more could you expect, it was a stupid thing to begin with" while referring to the v8 fj40 madness
    lol, on the subject of madness what prospects does a bobbed fj60 with a slightly heavy duty suspension and a 1jzgte have against the big boys?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MITSU_MAN View Post
    @yaserag

    Glad you enjoyed the example!
    And man, you are still very young at JUST 33!
    Trust me, I really don't recall the difference when I was 23 or 33......but comes 43.....and the horses seriously start going down!
    But that's still a long way to go for you, and till then, you are looking good at 33 (Mashallah)!
    Hahahah! im borderline Gen X... so were practically the same age... good for you huh
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    Quote Originally Posted by yaserag View Post
    hmmmm... wouldnt solid axles perform better under vehicle squat?... during accelerations and hard braking? also i would assume that they would better in terms of power delivery to the wheels... though i do see your point on iFS when comes to rough bumpy surfaces...
    Solid axles perhaps do perform better all full squat/hard landing at they give the car a bit stronger footing. Akib Bhai when compariong TLC 100 (IFS) to TLC 105 (solid front axle) did comment that the TLC 100 comparatively feels a bit weak in the knees on hard landing (though that could be a subjective view based on stock settings). However, in desert racing IFS has come to be the prefferred technology from Dakar to Baja owing to reasons discussed earlier which invariably translate into better handling at high speeds. Also IFS is more useful in the dunes/jumps when you have less stuff to drag through the sand at the front. Another related point is that with long travel IFS its just easier to build in more uptravel in the suspension while keeping the car low....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MITSU_MAN View Post
    @yaserag

    Well 'Juggat Bazi' is what we are actually here for.....4x4 thing is just a cover up!
    To your Q.....hmmmm.....well a crude example (if not totally wrong) could be running up a flight of stairs with your shoe laces tied......you could have Ben Johnson's muscular thighs (of course on steroids oozing 760 horses on each step) but still can't take on the Carl Lewis's non-streroidal strides! (pardon me if the quoted names are kinda stone ageish but that, somehow connects well, to this old school daddy here)
    Naah its not really that bad (shoe laces tied stuff!).... Nadir's TLC and the Nissan Patrols have all run solid axles competitively! Even Ronnie Patel apparently used to be a solid axle leaf sprung kinda guy before moving onto the Evo.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by yaserag View Post
    lol, on the subject of madness what prospects does a bobbed fj60 with a slightly heavy duty suspension and a 1jzgte have against the big boys?
    Well, for starters, though people can disagree, but my considered opinion is (and has been all along) that: Even if one gets a king kong Evo or a nitrous farting Vigo for your first race, you basically have zero chance against even the dashy kids let alone the big boys out there...

    The names that you see on the leaderboard in each category have all been doing this stuff for many years and have invested their time, money and all other faculties to being where they have gotten. Maybe in the short qualifying round or small rallies you can score a cheeky six but in the main events with the full house representation, one can try but it won't be very productive thinking one can walk in and sweep the podium in any category (and I do hear such thinking quite a bit ) ....

    And not to be fooled, today not just the Jimnys but the Vigos and Evos are all not only faster (by hook or crook) than their stock representations, they progressively get faster and more competitive every year. All the top guys are continously making some sort of mods / additions to engines / suspensions / navigation (and safety in some cases!) and there is a lot of brain and heart that goes in there along with the wallet and balls!

    If one can digest that (either the easy way, or the hard way) then yes the FJ60 is a good budget platform to play around with and learn the ropes with. The biggest challenge will be to learn to drive such an over powered vehicle and to make it last till the end of the race despite the numerous modifications. In the long run however, it will still take plenty of mechanical and driving skills along with tons of luck to make it to the podium in such a competitive field....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuhaibKiani View Post



    If one can digest that (either the easy way, or the hard way) then yes the FJ60 is a good budget platform to play around with and learn the ropes with. The biggest challenge will be to learn to drive such an over powered vehicle and to make it last till the end of the race despite the numerous modifications. In the long run however, it will still take plenty of mechanical and driving skills along with tons of luck to make it to the podium in such a competitive field....


    .....wallet and balls part.....I agree 110%

    60 series on steroids.....not agreed.....BJ or FJ.....leaf sprung.....no.....not a good idea!
    The vigos or the 'daalas' basically survive out there on leaf springs owing to practically having no weight at their backs.....you take bends..... point the nose in the direction you'd like to head and floor it.....the wild flying tail comes back in, effortlessly.....with the 60 series, unless you chop down the rear, you'd remain a serious candidate for a roll over (the heavy tailing weight would require serious counter/correction throughout the race)!
    That's another reason for the 'daala' fever catching up instead of LWB SUVs, which were, initially preferred over SWBs.....the rally scene has evolved for sure SK! (not to forget your fav quoted example man Ronnie....now runs a LWB Evo with practically 'daala' weight configuration at the back).....the 'daala', even leaf sprung, carries less weight with a longer wheel base and is forgiving......while the SWB bites your head off the moment you lose focus!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MITSU_MAN View Post
    .....wallet and balls part.....I agree 110%

    60 series on steroids.....not agreed.....BJ or FJ.....leaf sprung.....no.....not a good idea!
    The vigos or the 'daalas' basically survive out there on leaf springs owing to practically having no weight at their backs.....you take bends..... point the nose in the direction you'd like to head and floor it.....the wild flying tail comes back in, effortlessly.....with the 60 series, unless you chop down the rear, you'd remain a serious candidate for a roll over (the heavy tailing weight would require serious counter/correction throughout the race)!
    That's another reason for the 'daala' fever catching up instead of LWB SUVs, which were, initially preferred over SWBs.....the rally scene has evolved for sure SK! (not to forget your fav quoted example man Ronnie....now runs a LWB Evo with practically 'daala' weight configuration at the back).....the 'daala', even leaf sprung, carries less weight with a longer wheel base and is forgiving......while the SWB bites your head off the moment you lose focus!
    Oh jaan deo daalian khandaalian noon! Nahin ulattee FJ60 agar naa ultaein tau.... Weight reduction from back is not a problem, just take off 3 rear doors and side glasses. On budget builds leafers are better than coils as they can be tuned where you want them: one patta less / one patta more + one more set of shocks = Good to go! Your not gonna win much, and it won't look as BAD as this (yup those are 60 axles and gear), but it will be a lot of fun!

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    Smile Back to the videos : Stage Break Launch !

    Ahhm.... A lot of fun!!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by SuhaibKiani View Post
    ...it won't look as BAD as this...

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    You're right. This DOES look bad. BEAUTIFULLY bad, that is.
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    Some interesting comments yesterday from various quarters reagrding suspensions in rallies. With my extensively vast 4 rallies participation experience , I must also chime in!

    For starters leafspings up front are the least desirable to put it mildly. They were simply not ever meant for high speed off-road driving. You simply cannot have a balanced front end for twisty uneven surface for race conditions compared to other setups. The independent front suspension is far more forgiving and easier to drive fast. I have never driven a front leaf spring setup in race condition, but I have driven a standard RKR and trying a fast turn in it was eye opener for me (it just wanted to go straighter!).

    Anyway longer wheel base 60 series stripped to the bone may behave better, but only marginally. Having used both LC100 with IFS and solid rear coiled setup vs Nissan Patrol Pickup solid front axle with coils and rear with leafsprings in rallies, the drive is remarkably different. In Jhal like rough terrain the solid front axle did not make as much of a difference, but in sand / desert racing the IFS is superior hence faster.

    Mitsuman's and Suhaibs point regarding rear weight and setup to flip or not to flip a vehicle are both valid. There have been plenty Evo flips despite their fully independent suspension in the best of hands, and than there are the others who haven't flipped despite seeming the most un-stable. A lot of flips depend on drivers error, when he braked, where he braked or not, turned in too fast, misjudgement of speed or bump etc.

    Finally power, a 1JZ may make the vehicle fast in straight line speed on the road, but translating that onto rallies scenario is very difficult. Power is nothing without control, what is needed is drivability. 1JZ will give you sudden surge of power which can be difficult to control in turns specially when traction is reduced. Suhaib can tell more, but 1UZ may be a better choice comparitively for TLC 60, or a 2UZ vvti would be ideal.

    Whatever one does, the first rally or two are purely for gaining experience and safety should be the priority, give it a good whelly when you get approriate track and try to bring it back safely in one piece. Enjoy the event and if one falls in love with rallying, than setup improvement can be done bit by bit!


    And now can we have some more pics and vdos of the rally!

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    SK: Farooq, ham jeet gayey! Ham jeet gayey!
    Farooq: Ham kahan se jeet gayey?
    SK: Jeet geyee Concordia, haar gayee mehengai!
    Farooq: Lagtaa hai char ghentay gaaree chalaney se asar ho gaya hai. Yaad rehay, Bhutto ab bhee zindaa hai!
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    SK: Ham jeet gayey, Ham jeet gayey!
    Farooq: Nadir Magsi 4 seconds mein jharee se finish tak pohachaa hai, hamein 6 lag gayey hain yahan tak....
    SK: Char chay nu chad, eh das turbo ik laana eh ke do!
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    SK: Oh flag tak! Asseee jit gayey, assee jit gayey!

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    SK: Thai wajey pohonchaa dittee FJ40 finish te! Assee jit gayey, assee jit gayey! Oh tako, interview waastey vee aa rey ne, Geo walay!

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    Interviewer: To aap ke khayaal mein aap jeet gayey?
    SK: Takko Phai - Na assee Vigo, te naa assee Evo! Na assee genuine, te naa assee TRD! Na haigey King, te naa Fox! Ik ik paich pipe jor ke, kamaaneyan te rorh ke; kabariyaan kolon chaa ke, engine gear payaa thaa ke! Maulaa karam keetaa, poney das start litta; taawlian daa rastaa chad ke, sapairiyaan toon bach bach key; hunhee pohonchay aan massaan, takyaa te thai waj gayey; Jai twaadey kol podium dee thor hai, sanoon kissee cup dee nahin lor hai! Mubarik howey jairey jittay ne gaddee bhajaa ke, saadee game finish te apnee balaila sajaa ke! Salaawaan 'Laikum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuhaibKiani View Post
    Interviewer: To aap ke khayaal mein aap jeet gayey?
    SK: Takko Phai - Na assee Vigo, te naa assee Evo! Na assee genuine, te naa assee TRD! Na haigey King, te naa Fox! Ik ik paich pipe jor ke, kamaaneyan te rorh ke; kabariyaan kolon chaa ke, engine gear payaa thaa ke! Maulaa karam keetaa, poney das start litta; taawlian daa rastaa chad ke, sapairiyaan toon bach bach key; hunhee pohonchay aan massaan, takyaa te thai waj gayey; Jai twaadey kol podium dee thor hai, sanoon kissee cup dee nahin lor hai! Mubarik howey jairey jittay ne gaddee bhajaa ke, saadee game finish te apnee balaila sajaa ke! Salaawaan 'Laikum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuhaibKiani View Post
    Interviewer: To aap ke khayaal mein aap jeet gayey?
    SK: Takko Phai - Na assee Vigo, te naa assee Evo! Na assee genuine, te naa assee TRD! Na haigey King, te naa Fox! Ik ik paich pipe jor ke, kamaaneyan te rorh ke; kabariyaan kolon chaa ke, engine gear payaa thaa ke! Maulaa karam keetaa, poney das start litta; taawlian daa rastaa chad ke, sapairiyaan toon bach bach key; hunhee pohonchay aan massaan, takyaa te thai waj gayey; Jai twaadey kol podium dee thor hai, sanoon kissee cup dee nahin lor hai! Mubarik howey jairey jittay ne gaddee bhajaa ke, saadee game finish te apnee balaila sajaa ke! Salaawaan 'Laikum!

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    Welldone......but here is my interpretation of the interview

    Geo.....Sir mubarik howay!
    SK.......O chal oye.....mubarikan denda phirda hae ya mazakan pe karda hae?
    Geo.....kyun sir.....kee hoya.....ghussa kis gal da hega?
    SK......Oye O kithay hae?
    Geo....Kon sir jee?
    SK.....Oye O kaali baleela wala?
    Geo....O kon sir jee?
    SK.....Oye O kaali 4d56 wala jeerra Jhal wich kehnda c k meray koloon behtar time maraeya hega?
    Geo....O acha sir jee....O mitsu_man? O chado sir jee...... O twadey tu dar ke is wari ghaib ho gayea hehga.....
    SK....hummmphhhh......dekha sada teka.....agli varee nadir nu nahin chadna!
    Geo...O sir jee....hun bas v karo.....nadir kol 4d56 naee balkay nawa turbo tacoma haega?
    Sk....tey koee gal naee.....asee twin turbo kardeyan ***....
    Geo....wah wah sir jee.....te fir te mitsu de baleela te bilkul he farigh javay gee?
    SK....O nam na laey us kam****y da....bakri ho gayea es vari....kali baleela nu mae aglee varee apnee gadi de pichay band ke poori rally ghaseetna hega!
    Geo....te sir fir nadir nu kenj pharro gey?
    SK...O koee gal nahein.....onuu agay band leyan ge....simpuul
    MEN DO IT AT DAKAR!!!

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