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    Hi guyz

    I bring up another intresting thread this time specificaly for suv's which fall within the budget of 1 million.

    most people use suv's either as thier first vehicle or as a second grocerie's & picnic vehicle.

    I am the second type.


    Suv's are purpose and fun built vehicles and can accomplish many purpose's.In pakistan we have a fair off road culture and due to the vastness of pakistan and its extreme altitudes,wilderness,long highways, deseart's and tough terrain suv's and off roaders are preffered. And people from subarban areas who are in the cultivation trade preffer suv's too.

    which makes for a huge consumer market for suv's.

    we still have mid 80's suv parts still available in the market to full fill their requirements so these vehicles can thrive even years after their final productions.

    I have narrowed down to a few popular suv's down in pakistan and also the not so popular one.

    there are a wide veriety of suv's available, but i have narrowed it down to a max budget of 1 million and large hard top models with 5 or 7 seater capacity, which can be used as daily practical family vehicles.

    So here are my preffered logical & practical vehicles, which i believe are a lot fun to drive even today.

    All info provided here is self accumulated and not sourced through any other sources or websites.

    So lets begin.

    NO 1: Toyota Land Cruiser 70/Prado 70 Series.
    A Legandry vehicle from pakistani standards. has and is being used by pakistan, army, police, senior officers, patrol cars and in many other organizations of pakistan.

    and is still being used therefore aample spare parts,and lot of rebuilts of salvages therefore familiar with the pakistan michanics & denters.

    has a 7 seater with 3rd row foldable seat capacity and can easily seat 07.

    nice cooling and heating system and has got a very comfertable ride, with great comfy soft seats. along with its go any wheare capability.

    amazing for long trips and picnics.

    guarintees attention and respect as has is being used by government officials..

    looks wise i can still give it a 10 as it looks realy great compared to its older brother the 60 series.


    a good well mantained one will be hitting you a 1 million mark. i think that is the max you should go for this vehicle.

    The 1 million budget off SUV thread. - LJ78 ExPo39


    Toyota Land Cruiser 80/Series.
    A lot different then the 70, this time with better, improved height and a longer wheel base compared to the already big 70. and also a lot much more muscular feeling. came in a massive 4.2 L diesel capacity. with amazing power and go any wheare capabilities.

    Mostly used in the elite class and not many used or distributed by government compared to the 70.
    Came in Auto/manual and full awd options.

    very popular amoungs landlords.

    and an excelent all arround family vehicle suitable for all times.

    can put on the hat of an elite business vehicle, and does not feel disconnected crawling vertical. or wrangling horizontal dust.

    it is the vehicle for almost any type of mood and enviornment.

    excelent for family and picnics and is a good option for some one who is looking for every thing in one vehicle and wants it in a budget.

    prices will be a lil over 1 million, but with a good reliable search you can find a reliable one close to 1 milllion.

    The 1 million budget off SUV thread. - Toyota Land Cruiser 80 Series

    Mitsubishi Pajero 1st Generation

    Another spacious low budget vehicle, available freely in aample stocks all over pakistan. possibly the most famous of the 3 generations in pakistan.
    mostly available in the 5 seater format but 7 seaters are available too.

    a bit old so wont have all the basic features of a modern vehicle.
    cant comment on the ride cuz riden one a long time back. cant say about the comfy factor either.

    but has good off road capabiltities.

    and for those who are looking for a budget family suv this is the ideal choice.

    a good one can be fetched for arround 6 lacks and thing above that in not reasonable unless extra ordianary condition.
    resale is not as good as the above but if u buy cheap u sell cheap..
    The 1 million budget off SUV thread. - images?qtbnANd9GcTl3nqbri2NCX42GiBDCGxfH6hMem41DM3n1QElAquKmgdOkyqKa8ZMlYDFWw

    Mitsubishi Pajero 2nd Generation.

    a direct rival to the 80 series with simmilar matching economic features.

    the same go any wheare capability.
    the abiltiy to blend in to the enviornment. can put on its party hat and take you to your hi profile meeting, can take you across country, and can be a bit fun too.

    prices are slightly better then the 80 series a good vehicle can be baught in the 1 million range, how ever prices start from as low as 650 due to low resale and can go above 1 for a late model.

    how ever very executive and very sleekly designed. a moderate and a very reliable 2.8 inter cooler with aamples of power. and lot of comfart.

    i think i would go for this over the 80 as it is easy to mantain and a bit smaller then the 80 but with almost the same cabinet space. might not have the same luxuries off course as the 80. though.

    has a fairly good resale in market terms and parts hould be available easily.


    very popular amoungs government employees. so be sure you will get some cardinal respect.

    all combined with some amazing off road capabilities.

    you might have to do some repair work if you get it below 8. best of luck for your buy.

    auto transmission is an excelent buy on this 1.
    The 1 million budget off SUV thread. - PC020002


    Nissan patrol 4th generation

    again the only popular model of the series in pakistan.very popular amoungst the feudals and landlords back in the day. one of the biggest suv's arround to this date, a massive 4.2 displacement to cruise.

    all arround good off road capabilities and very spacious for family use.

    prices start from as low as 5 and can go to arround a million for a good 1.

    be sure to get a good michanic along to get a good inspection.

    The 1 million budget off SUV thread. - 1992 nissan patrol pic 2337325313024818373

    Toyota hilux SSR-X.

    again a very popular local vehicle. was used by generations for its reliability, very popular amoungst the feudals and subarban people. baught prominance to the guard and security personal culture in pakistan. also supported the government and army officials. worked as an army partner in tough far out terrains of pakistan.
    but currently is rarely seen on the urban roads.

    but is a very good option as a second vehicle and for people from out stations.
    resale is fairly reasonable being a toyota.

    has a nice towing capacity and can be used for heavy duty works, a bit different from the above but if you are looking for a vehicle with a slightly different purpose. take a look at this legand.

    which top gear prooves is near to indestructible.

    The 1 million budget off SUV thread. - toyota hilux ssr x 04

    Land rover deffender (110)

    not the most popular in pakistan for some reason but has a strong international history, almost as good as the toyotas.

    Land rovers never grew prominance amoungst the suv seekers in pakistan. was mostly imported by diplomatic missions specialy british, and those are the only vehicles we are left with.

    a few distinctions from the rest are it is not a direct rival to the above or belongs to the same market segmant or is focused at an audiance which matches the above.

    you can call the 110 the wild child who wanted to be some thing different.

    the design has not changed from nearly its inception.

    comes in base diesel engines and not as big as some of the above.

    very popular amoungs the hard core off road enthusiast internationaly. has been known to take loads of customization and fabrication.


    a few unique things on the early versions are they come with a 110 V current, so you have the same power as at home, you can also have a full detachable hard top on may be some 110if not all, which is an amazing adventure feature. and early models came in alluminum so they were nearly indestructible and rust free i bet a lot didnt know all this.

    here in srilanka they are very popular amoungs security escorts and armed militia.

    might be bit difficult to find an auto version.


    it is an excelent vehicle for safaris and deseart hunting. can also be used as an executive family vehile although which it is not.

    comes with just basic features and a basic engine.

    but is very purpose built and reliable and is a lot mush more fun to drive.

    how ever due to not being popular in pakistan

    its very difficult to find one.

    parts are hardly available so yolu are wondering into the unknown.

    resale is near to zero, how ever if some one looking for a low budget offroader can knock you.

    prices for *** late as 2000 year models can be baught next to the 1 million mark.

    amazing vehile for those sunny day picnics and over night huntings with the ac current.
    The 1 million budget off SUV thread. - 112 news060605 01z2007 land rover defender 90front passenger side view

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    Lets do it.

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    Waisey...aapas ki baat hai...

    On a serious note: one of these days, we really SHOULD stage a long march of PW'ers and their rides one of these days. Ayub Park to F-9 Park...with each person that participates donating a token sum to a charity that the PW Intezamiya can decide.

    Aur phir wahaan pohunch ke, hum Athar Shah Ji ki thread ka front page pe aane ke masaley pe apne mutaalbaat bhi pesh kar sakte hain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noman8ff View Post
    @ atharshah

    First thing, a reasonable 80 series will not come under 1 million budget. And i have all my doubts for a good SSRX too.

    2nd point, the Nissan Patrol parts are very difficult to find and there are many other brands being in use than an old patrol. You hardly see a mid 80's patrol in isb/ pindi area these days.

    3rd point, You have totally forgotten the 40 series and 60 series cruisers and than the ultimate suzuki potohars and Vitara's?????????

    And than u talk about practical, logical vehicles. I don't think vehicles like nissan patrols are any more practical vehicles with these high fuel prices

    And than we have a vast variety of CJ's around. U forgot them.

    What do you say?
    bro this was just metaphoricaly i quoted the 80 series so it is easy for the viewers to decide,

    1 million ofcourse is a bit difficult to get a good one, but 80s are available almost near to that budget

    12 1/2 you can get a good 1, a few months ago there were some good yom 95s with genuine mileage, baught from custom auction for as low as 14 with bargaining u cud bring him low to 12.

    i quoted so ppl who r intrested know such cars are available in this range.


    any thing is possible bro with the right determination

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    Quote Originally Posted by noman8ff View Post
    @ atharshah

    First thing, a reasonable 80 series will not come under 1 million budget. And i have all my doubts for a good SSRX too.

    2nd point, the Nissan Patrol parts are very difficult to find and there are many other brands being in use than an old patrol. You hardly see a mid 80's patrol in isb/ pindi area these days.

    3rd point, You have totally forgotten the 40 series and 60 series cruisers and than the ultimate suzuki potohars and Vitara's?????????

    And than u talk about practical, logical vehicles. I don't think vehicles like nissan patrols are any more practical vehicles with these high fuel prices

    And than we have a vast variety of CJ's around. U forgot them.

    What do you say?
    in reference to your 40 60s and potohars

    i wanted to share some thing that is latest has style, an attitude, respect and the power to make up for all the following.

    potohar is not a proper 7 seater, 60 & 40 are not for family and are a bit too old.


    i am not doubting their capabilites, as they r a different segment and for a different purpose.

    im sure wherare they shine my above wont.......thats the whole point

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    Quote Originally Posted by noman8ff View Post
    @ atharshah

    First thing, a reasonable 80 series will not come under 1 million budget. And i have all my doubts for a good SSRX too.

    2nd point, the Nissan Patrol parts are very difficult to find and there are many other brands being in use than an old patrol. You hardly see a mid 80's patrol in isb/ pindi area these days.

    3rd point, You have totally forgotten the 40 series and 60 series cruisers and than the ultimate suzuki potohars and Vitara's?????????

    And than u talk about practical, logical vehicles. I don't think vehicles like nissan patrols are any more practical vehicles with these high fuel prices

    And than we have a vast variety of CJ's around. U forgot them.

    What do you say?

    just follow my post below the header i clearly mention the patrol the least preffered, but clearly you cant disqualify it.

    as you said fuel i cant comment on it as i havent owned it, but havent heard a lot of complains and we can still se a lot patrols, hence a sign of their reliability and spares.


    cjs are again the master rock crawlers a segment wer none of the above can match its short wheel capability.

    but please try and understand this is not a mountainering or rock crawling thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fouadhafeez View Post
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    Aap hukam karein...hum uss waqt tak dharna dene ke liye tayyar hain, jab tak yeh thread front page pe nahin aata.
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    how come the pajero direct rival to 80 series...?

    nd can u help me finding a 94-95 good condition pajero within one million.....i doubt it....lolz

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    Quote Originally Posted by fouadhafeez View Post
    Zaroor yeh koi saazish hai, aap ke khilaaf aur jamhoori amal ke khilaaf.

    Aap hukam karein...hum uss waqt tak dharna dene ke liye tayyar hain, jab tak yeh thread front page pe nahin aata.
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    Awaz Uthao Fouad Hafeez, Ham Aap ke Saath hain. Haam Saazish ke khilaf hain.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jehangir2010 View Post
    how come the pajero direct rival to 80 series...?

    nd can u help me finding a 94-95 good condition pajero within one million.....i doubt it....lolz

    considering the pakistani X-suv list, they both are direct rivals to the consumers of pakistan, i am specifically considering space and seating cappacity, which is more about practicality. and not about target market.


    i am not here to search vehicles for u, kindly move ur body and do that by your self.

    tum to aik teer se do shikaar kerna cha rehe ho..............gari mint condition bhi chchiye aur 10 lakh main bhi chahiye

    haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehangir2010 View Post
    how come the pajero direct rival to 80 series...?

    nd can u help me finding a 94-95 good condition pajero within one million.....i doubt it....lolz

    look guys here we hava gold digger

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    just answer my query bro......

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    Quote Originally Posted by atharshah View Post
    look guys here we hava gold digger
    ok,,,,,


    btw, i read ur whole thread....the information u provided here and claimed that it is self collected and u show urself as a genius....


    i think this is very basic information which everybody knows who have even a little bit interest in SUVs...


    Secondly, i am not asking u to search a vehicle for me,,,,, i asked u to prove what u ******** in this thread...even 70 cruiser in good condition does not come under 1 million......


    and 80 series.....huh.........even the one in reasonable condition does not come in this budget........


    so i suggest u to move ur b.......and come to Pakistan and survey the market....so that u dont make any further stupid threads......


    and please spellings to theek likha karo,,,,,,,,,,khud nahi aate to google se check kar ke post kia karo, tum jaise logon ke liay hi bana hai.........this is a thread,,,not a chit chat where u can write any spellings for any word..........

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    to my limited knowledge and experience, bj60 is a good family suv, strong, comfortable, reliable and looks decent as well.
    80 series under 1 million? hmmm, a friendly advice stay away from under 1 million 80 series.
    or search for gen 1 pajero shogun as well, preferably a reconditioned one, rest depends on ur choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hayzin View Post
    Noman bhai khair hai? Kiyon NPs ko badnaam karre hain Sir jee? Tusse teh full fire mode wich aagaye ho
    Good discussion going on here. I would like to clarify a few things:

    My 1990 Nissan Patrol serves me quite well Mashallah. And a fuel average of 8km/litre is not bad at all for a 4200cc, 6 cylinder engine. True that parts might be a hassle and you will hardly see a NP on the road nowadays, but the NP no doubt is a great machine. Not that I'm saying its the best, but please dont be so quick to judge In the Arab world, the NP is still one of the popular 4x4s used in the desert. Even Dakar has seen its share of NPs.

    As for the 40 & 60 Series TLC, in my experience are one of the greatest machines made in the 80's by Toyota! I used to get 10km/litre on my BJ60 which had a 3B engine, a powerful and economical engine no doubt.

    Where practicality is concerned, yes Suzuki Vitara/Jimny/Sierra/SJ40's etc are a good choice and very capable little machines. They have been used in rallies like Cholistan and Jhal Magsi. Not to mention their offroading capabilities. However I would like to point out that if anyone expects practicality in a 4x4 that is truly a 4x4, is dreaming. This is a 'shauk' that is not cheap to maintain, we all know first hand no matter what machine you own, practicality is rarely a concern.

    Now coming to the 1 million price bracket....No good and dependable 80 Series, SSRX etc will ever come in that amount., at least not these days....unless you're very very lucky! Most rigs of the 80 Series stature can range anywhere from 1.2mil to 2.5mil. As for Surfs and Tigers, 1mil to 1.5 mil is the range to consider.

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    Hassan bhai, aap kehtay hain magar atay nahin. Anyhow i am looking forward to meet you soon for a good gup shup. As far as NP's r concerned, they are not less than any other good 4X4. Even in some cases better than the land cruisers. Aor inhin baaton ki wajah se to shayed aap chakkar maar len meray ghar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atharshah View Post
    in reference to your 40 60s and potohars

    i wanted to share some thing that is latest has style, an attitude, respect and the power to make up for all the following.

    potohar is not a proper 7 seater, 60 & 40 are not for family and are a bit too old.


    i am not doubting their capabilites, as they r a different segment and for a different purpose.

    im sure wherare they shine my above wont.......thats the whole point
    Brother u look confused. U talk about power and ignore 40. U talk about latest and stylish and than talk about 1 million and than ignore vitaras. Than u talk about family vehicle and ignore 60 cruisers. If 60 is not a family veh than what do u really call a family 4X4. And than an 88/ 89 model 60 is old for u and than u discuss a 90 or 91 model 80 series cruiser and think it's not old.
    Pls be clear as what u really want out of this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehangir2010 View Post
    just answer my query bro......

    its above your reply follow it and try to understand it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehangir2010 View Post
    ok,,,,,


    btw, i read ur whole thread....the information u provided here and claimed that it is self collected and u show urself as a genius....


    i think this is very basic information which everybody knows who have even a little bit interest in SUVs...


    Secondly, i am not asking u to search a vehicle for me,,,,, i asked u to prove what u ******** in this thread...even 70 cruiser in good condition does not come under 1 million......


    and 80 series.....huh.........even the one in reasonable condition does not come in this budget........


    so i suggest u to move ur b.......and come to Pakistan and survey the market....so that u dont make any further stupid threads......


    and please spellings to theek likha karo,,,,,,,,,,khud nahi aate to google se check kar ke post kia karo, tum jaise logon ke liay hi bana hai.........this is a thread,,,not a chit chat where u can write any spellings for any word..........
    Quote Originally Posted by cool_raja View Post
    to my limited knowledge and experience, bj60 is a good family suv, strong, comfortable, reliable and looks decent as well.
    80 series under 1 million? hmmm, a friendly advice stay away from under 1 million 80 series.
    or search for gen 1 pajero shogun as well, preferably a reconditioned one, rest depends on ur choice.
    Quote Originally Posted by noman8ff View Post
    Brother u look confused. U talk about power and ignore 40. U talk about latest and stylish and than talk about 1 million and than ignore vitaras. Than u talk about family vehicle and ignore 60 cruisers. If 60 is not a family veh than what do u really call a family 4X4. And than an 88/ 89 model 60 is old for u and than u discuss a 90 or 91 model 80 series cruiser and think it's not old.
    Pls be clear as what u really want out of this thread.
    yer thanks for the appreciation for me creating this thread.


    i never claimed me being an suv genious.........infact i have never owned an SUV to this date.

    Purpose of me building this thread: so that a potential owner gets a basic idea of all the reliable suv's available in the local market, and can compare the above mentioned, for its pro's & cons and decide which one suits his type.

    I never claimed for these suv's to be fixed at 1 million. they can be either more or less. the idea is to motivate a potential owner to go out there and hunt for the required vehicle.


    any one expecting to get a 94 inter cooler or 94 LC 80 in mint condition on original engine and paint in 1 million is day dreaming.

    how ever a bit more added to the above budget shall land you a reasonable vehicle.


    and although i live abroad and the only source for vehicle prices and news is through PW, i highly reccomend never to consider pw prices to be market prices.

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    those who r having a problem with my spelling must know, i am pakistani and my native language is urdu, so if you wana read my vainglish thats how it is

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    Shah Ji...you've never owned an SUV but you have so much knowledge to share with us! Aur hum itney saarey log, jo ke arsa daraaz se inn gariyon ke maalik hain, aur inn ko ultey seedhay raaston per chala chala ke inn ke parakhshay udate rehte hain...humein inn ke baarey mein aap jitna ilm kaisey ho sakta hai?!

    Brother, you deserve to be commended for the very nerve of creating this thread, and for your courage and steadfastness in refusing to concede even an inch to anyone's point of view. Even though you're an SUV observer and not an SUV owner.

    Aur aapas ki baat hai, aap ke iss thread ko front page pe rakhney ke waastey, hum Long March karenge, aur zaroor karenge!

    Well done! I love reading this thread!
    Always buy cars which your children love. They'll be helpful allies against your wife, later on!

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    Search pakwheels there are alot of threads which explain every bit of info one needs to buy a SUV.
    RIP

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    Quote Originally Posted by fouadhafeez View Post
    Shah Ji...you've never owned an SUV but you have so much knowledge to share with us! Aur hum itney saarey log, jo ke arsa daraaz se inn gariyon ke maalik hain, aur inn ko ultey seedhay raaston per chala chala ke inn ke parakhshay udate rehte hain...humein inn ke baarey mein aap jitna ilm kaisey ho sakta hai?!

    Brother, you deserve to be commended for the very nerve of creating this thread, and for your courage and steadfastness in refusing to concede even an inch to anyone's point of view. Even though you're an SUV observer and not an SUV owner.

    Aur aapas ki baat hai, aap ke iss thread ko front page pe rakhney ke waastey, hum Long March karenge, aur zaroor karenge!

    Well done! I love reading this thread!

    bro it is an open thread any one can share his views!!!


    long march

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    Quote Originally Posted by noman8ff View Post
    @ atharshah

    First thing, a reasonable 80 series will not come under 1 million budget. And i have all my doubts for a good SSRX too.

    2nd point, the Nissan Patrol parts are very difficult to find and there are many other brands being in use than an old patrol. You hardly see a mid 80's patrol in isb/ pindi area these days.

    3rd point, You have totally forgotten the 40 series and 60 series cruisers and than the ultimate suzuki potohars and Vitara's?????????

    And than u talk about practical, logical vehicles. I don't think vehicles like nissan patrols are any more practical vehicles with these high fuel prices

    And than we have a vast variety of CJ's around. U forgot them.

    What do you say?
    am totally agreed to noman8ff .a reasonable suv search in this budget is a difficult task when you go to search for suv in a market many bitter realities will tasted by you....once i check a 12HT toyota LC 1989 model the owner demand it for 11 lakhs and the buyer was at 9.9 lakhs not a very old story only 6 month back......
    http://www.vehiclepdf.com/

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