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    I just test drove new Pakistan assembled Toyota Fortuner 2013. Here's my review of the vehicle along with some pictures I was able to take.

    Exterior: 7/10 - I saw the one in dark gray mica color and it looked pretty nice. It has a fresh design with nice curves and style. I would personally prefer white color though.

    Dashboard: 5/10 - Those driving Civics, Premios, Mark X and Surf are not going to be excited about it. It's pretty basic. Although they have given leather steering and black piano trim it still doesn't spark. DVD, gear and speedometer is also average. Nothing stands out.

    Interior: 6/10 - Tan leather seats and overall ambiance inside the cabin gives it a nice look and there's nothing out of ordinary. However, it feel pretty congested and 3 normal sized people would be tight sitting in the 2nd row. 3rd row is very tight and only 10-12 year old children would fit in there.

    Drive: 5/10 - It felt quite stiff and heavy. You cannot compare it's ride to Prado or Land Cruiser. At a speed of 100 km/hr it didn't feel very stable on a bumpy road. I believe it will have stability issues on motor way where there are heavy gusts of wind in some areas as well as on curvy roads at high speeds.

    Engine: 6/10 - The engine isn't under powered; it's just about the right size. It didn't feel sluggish. You won't be able to drag race it with Corolla or Civic though. I know we are going to complain about fuel consumption because it's all time 4WD which isn't going to be a good idea since it's a city car.

    Price: 4/10 - Now it all comes down to the price which IMC hasn't announced yet but most probably it's 5.2 million. So the question is how much are you willing to throw away for a car that's 6/10 in Pakistani market. Since we have seen comparison of prices of Fortuner with other countries in different threads I am going to repeat the same thing. After seeing and driving it I am more convinced that this car belongs in around 4.2 million bracket. My limit to purchase this car would be 4.5 million. There's no way I am spending 5.2 million on it and after taxes and registration it would be around 5.8 million. Sorry, IMC but I am not up for that.

    Bottom line: All in all it's not a bad car to own and drive but it felt like an upgrade or big brother of Vigo and then it all comes down to value for money. You need to see what you get in return of the money you spend. I would personally either prefer a Surf or a Mercedes in 4 million range and if I have to spend close to 6 million then I am going for a Prado. Yes, there are people who would buy it for even 7 million and consider it a good price for a "brand new" car but I am not willing to go down that road. IMC would have difficult time selling it over 4.5 million. The Sales Manager at Toyota dealership also said that this car will sell itself at 4.5 million but at 5.2 million it will be very difficult. Initially they might get a good response but it will eventually slow down.

    Price Comparison: I did a small price comparison with different countries. I used current foreign currency exchange rate. I wonder why is there a minor difference in the price of Altis and Fortuner in other countries and why do we have to pay almost 3 times in Pakistan for Fortuner? I believe that's because Fortuner is not considered a luxury car in other countries and they think of it as an upgrade to a pickup truck. You can see Altis is cheaper in Pakistan than most of the countries then why not Fortuner?


    Country Altis 1.8L Fortuner 2.7L
    India 2,616,838 4,041,730
    Thailand 2,957,710 4,158,560
    UAE 1,909,050 3,404,250
    Philippines 2,795,100 3,334,760
    Pakistan 2,084,000 5,175,000

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    i have posted a lot of questions about safety. if anybody is interested in fortuner ask your dealer all these issues, they should be able to convince you before you put down 5.2 million rs, and ur life on the line. better safe than sorry.

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    I did point this out in previous post that we need to ask IMC
    1.) Did they add required design modification in rear suspension?
    2.) Is stability control feature also added?
    3.) Does 4WD fix flipping issue? What's the reason for not giving 2WD?

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    big disappointing no esp or vsa my 2010 vigo has tht, u need it for these cars!!!
    BUG ME AND I WILL CRASH INTO U!

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    .India mai Altis 1.8 1152000 ki ha, aur fortuner 2250000 ki, Pakistan mai Altis 1.6 ki price 19 lac ha, tu. Fortuner ki price 38 lac honi chaiye, both are locally assembeld in india and pakistan

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    its a perfect suv and toyota can change people's mind about them only if they compromise the effing price

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    38-40 lacs price ho tb bhi profit ma jae ge.....plus jo bachat esp/vsa, cruise control,climate control,auto leveling HID headlamps and imported leather seats nkal kr IMC ko hui ha.

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    ^ Yes your right, Why dont you make one and sell it at profit at 38-40 lacks that would be great,so many people want to buy it at that price, and you can put Indus motors out of business.
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    This is price specs of the fully imported Honda competition, altho i doubt the prices are updated with dollar but still, cutting 23 lacks isnt bad. What im trying to say is that any body would want to price it as cheap as possible.Suzuki brought in Vitaras (altho worst shape ever) at 2.5 million in 2005, at that time there wasnt any competition, gradualy it died and Toyota and Honda brought in Fortuner and Cr-V later, Toyota is the only one who shifting from imported to localy assembling. (assembling atleast).Suzuki quit with selling Vitara, APV was a nice success but its still being imported.Honda is still importing CRvs on orders selling/giving away to high end Atlas staff only probably And your stories about Fortuner turing over, IF you read and go thru them, They are of 2005-2006, Most people recomend tire changing, Indus ones are already equiped with Bridgestone tires. Stories also suggest something about the suspension.Again, yes its the cheapest SUV avalbile after Harrier i guess (im not sure if Harrier is still made or not) in the Toyota line up. You shouldnt expect much out of it. lacking features are Cruise Control, Stability control and traction control.Even if they arent decreasing the price they should atleast provide the cruise control, traction and stability control,
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinyoti View Post
    This is price specs of the fully imported Honda competition, altho i doubt the prices are updated with dollar but still, cutting 23 lacks isnt bad. What im trying to say is that any body would want to price it as cheap as possible.Suzuki brought in Vitaras (altho worst shape ever) at 2.5 million in 2005, at that time there wasnt any competition, gradualy it died and Toyota and Honda brought in Fortuner and Cr-V later, Toyota is the only one who shifting from imported to localy assembling. (assembling atleast).Suzuki quit with selling Vitara, APV was a nice success but its still being imported.Honda is still importing CRvs on orders selling/giving away to high end Atlas staff only probably And your stories about Fortuner turing over, IF you read and go thru them, They are of 2005-2006, Most people recomend tire changing, Indus ones are already equiped with Bridgestone tires. Stories also suggest something about the suspension.Again, yes its the cheapest SUV avalbile after Harrier i guess (im not sure if Harrier is still made or not) in the Toyota line up. You shouldnt expect much out of it. lacking features are Cruise Control, Stability control and traction control.Even if they arent decreasing the price they should atleast provide the cruise control, traction and stability control,
    I agree with most of your points to me price is very reasonable. Although some features such as climate control, VSA etc would add great value to the car even if they price it at 5.5M reason is that such features can not be obtained by adding aftermarket accs or they should have introduced different trims. Some members are saying that in 5.2M a good used or new BMW/Mercedes can be bought but you have to think that at same price you are getting a new SUV, I am not sure about others but I would never travel from Karachi to Lahore in a sedan a SUV is my top priority for long routes due to condition of our roads and motorways.
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    Do you guys know that toyota has stopped giving test drive of fortuner? Only because of the negative feedback. They are now just show casing it at a couple of dealerships. It will be available for test drive after official launch n final price.
    You have to drive it and then decide if its worth 5.8 mil. I didnt feel like spending this much. Specially after all the missing features and comparing the prices I don't think it's worth it.
    There will always be people who think its a fair price for a brand new car. And it's not a matter of affording it. I have a budget of 6 million and at one point i was even thinking about importing 2009 latest shape prado but then decided to wait for fortuner. Now after knowing all facts I refuse to spend close to 6 million on a car that could be bought for 4 million.

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    stability control is not gonna fix flip over issue..its center of gravity ..it seems like its all messed up with fortuner
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    Quote Originally Posted by kala_shah_kaku View Post
    Do you guys know that toyota has stopped giving test drive of fortuner? Only because of the negative feedback. They are now just show casing it at a couple of dealerships. It will be available for test drive after official launch n final price.
    You have to drive it and then decide if its worth 5.8 mil. I didnt feel like spending this much. Specially after all the missing features and comparing the prices I don't think it's worth it.
    There will always be people who think its a fair price for a brand new car. And it's not a matter of affording it. I have a budget of 6 million and at one point i was even thinking about importing 2009 latest shape prado but then decided to wait for fortuner. Now after knowing all facts I refuse to spend close to 6 million on a car that could be bought for 4 million.
    MAybe your dealer stoped it, Ive been getting calls everyday for the test drive, since its due but due to my tight schedule im not able to take one.
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mani9999 View Post
    its a hot seller because its the cheapest suv by toyota in the world...... it is available only in third world countries where safety regulations dont apply or are very much relaxed.... roll over is a big problem on corrugated roads, that is all pakistani roads except motorway. so we would have more rolled over fortuners than any other.
    nobody is forcing me to buy it. im putting the word out to people atleast people should be warned of safety concerns, and if they still buy it dont drive it like a normal suv. it may be worth if a warning can save somebody and their family's life.

    btw the technical problem is the centre of gravity too high, and rear suspension not suitable. something about the frequency of the dampers.
    only in third world ... u r calling far east countries such as Malaysia, Singapore, Australia n New Zealand as a third world countries??? even those countries want cheap n reliable suv as not all of them r rich...moreover even gulf countries such as UAE, Qatar r almost fully developed country....also available in South Africa n other African countries
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahm13 View Post
    stability control is not gonna fix flip over issue..its center of gravity ..it seems like its all messed up with fortuner
    exactly!! all of them r blabbering about vsc n exp to control flip over issue...center of gravity issue come from suspension n balancing weight!!
    My lugnuts require more torque than your Vtec can put out...

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    The flipping cases are not from 05-06. If you check the date of the comments on the article you will see that those are from 2012. So the problem still exists.
    However, I read in a few places that this issue is not related to high center of gravity but design fault of rear suspension. This is supposed to have been fixed after 2009 but we need to make certain with IMC before purchasing it. I think keeping tyre pressure low is not the right solution. May be it fixes the issue but it should be done mechanically.

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    The countries where Fortuner is sold are not essentially 3rd world countries but they definitely have relaxed safety laws. Most of the flipping cases reported are from South Africa and Australia. We can say Fortuner is mostly sold in Asia. Even Japan doesn't manufacture this vehicle for their domestic market. I wonder why?
    In 2009-2010 the old platform/chassis of Hilux was abandoned in Europe and USA and they launched new modified version. Everyone knows that West has strict safety laws when it comes to vehicle safety features and crash testing.

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    Well ... here in Lahore two of my friends were told by dealers that we are not offering tests anymore. May be you should go and give us your first hand impression of the vehicle. I know the vehicle itself is fine and even I would love to own it but with right price and safety features. I first had interior and immobilizer on top of my check list and these two being taken care of, I now have 2 more.

    1.) Right price i.e. around 4 million
    2.) Confirmation on vehicle stability feature/modification


    Quote Originally Posted by chinyoti View Post
    MAybe your dealer stoped it, Ive been getting calls everyday for the test drive, since its due but due to my tight schedule im not able to take one.

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    Default My review

    So i went to check it out at a dealership today.

    First impression its smaller than i expected.
    Did not look as large as the vigo champ somehow.

    So i asked my concerns to the sales manager he tried to make comparisons with landcruiser and stuff but i had too much in store for him.
    After some time he caved in and told the truth. Indus knows its quite overpriced and they do not intend to sell a lot of them either. He says first month is expected to have 70 sales and then its going to go slow. Indus wants to skim the cream with this they dnt want many sales.

    No safety features except two airbags. Rear bumper was quite flimsy and bent in one place. Leather seats were better than i had expected.
    It lacked some charm. Looked like a jacked up vigo from front.

    Dealer says he would report the concerns but dont expect imc to listen.

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    Did you get a chance to drive it?
    What does he have to say about stability control and rear suspension design modification?
    Looks like 5.2 million is going to be final price. 2 dealers told me they have already 10 advance bookings within the first day. Looks like they are lying.
    IMC would be stupid to sell 70 of these whereas Civic is over booked and there's 2-3 months wait time and own of 1-1.5 lacs. Now some of you could say that it's not in competition with Civic or it's no a Sedan but I have a strong opinion that they can get a lot of Civic customers by pricing it around 4 million. There's is a huge market for cheaper SUV not the the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salik990 View Post
    only in third world ... u r calling far east countries such as Malaysia, Singapore, Australia n New Zealand as a third world countries??? even those countries want cheap n reliable suv as not all of them r rich...moreover even gulf countries such as UAE, Qatar r almost fully developed country....also available in South Africa n other African countries
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    toyota designed fortuner for asian markets , fortuner has good off road ability
    some people said hilux vigo per body laga di fortuner ban gaya wht a funny
    any company design any vehicle first they design according 2 weather conditions ,road conditons n needs of people if pakistanis need toyota tundra 100% they can launch tundra here

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