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    Hello friends

    i need advice from u guys regarding suspension upgradation for my new ride Nissan Safari 1998 (Y61). I want to install heavy duty shocks and springs like Ranchos, Old Man EMU, Iron man etc, i checked all webs for them and found most of them r offering complete set which has shocks , springs and uplift parts. I dont want to uplift the vehicle, but cant find coil springs in stock size. Is this ok if i just put shocks and use the stock springs with them, would they give performance ?

    Also i want to change the previously installed snow tyres and want to put A/T. The stock size is 265-70-16. I want to put 275or 285-70-16 in yokohama, bridgestone or dunlop. Do u guys recommend this size or i should keep the stock size. Would these big tyres effect the turning radious or touch any inside part.


    I would be very pleased to have ur valuable comments

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    Hi, I also changed my Surf 1997 stock tires to 285-70-16 and I am getting problem on turning both sides......it touches the inner shield of the wheel well and also touches front bumper fairing( moulding),earlier I installed 2" spacers in the front which solved the problem but the look of surf was like it is loaded at the back.I kept it for almost 2.5 years and also traveled to Peshawar via Lahore and back without any problem but now I have removed it after the change of shocks. Now I am again in to trouble for tire touching the shield. I read some good articles on 4x4 lifting and came to a conclusion that the lift should be on both ends, front and rear........if someone have any other suggestions, I will love to have it.

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    thanks TheAviator for ur input
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    where r u off roaders, come on i need feed back from expertise, today i checked with my tyre dealer, he advised 275-70-16 Yokohama Geolander H/T, Thai made and stamped 27-12, do u guys recomend this?
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    Hey Asad,

    I am using ironman suspension with 33 inches Maxis with it and i am fine with the combo. No issues with turning so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    Hey Asad,

    I am using ironman suspension with 33 inches Maxis with it and i am fine with the combo. No issues with turning so far.
    hav u uplifted the vehicle or using stock height
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    well Asad, if you want to put only sports shocks in your Safri and the rest will remain original, so as per my experience its will defiantly damage the shocks, because the original shocks are short then the sports one. change both of them or leave it in original specs as safari original suspension is also very very capable for offroading. With original suspension only install sports (Ironman or rancho) steering damper, which will stabilize your 4x4 in the offroad and on road terrains. with lift kitt there is no turning issues. Nissan Safari gives you maximum angle and smooth ride in rough terrain

    2nd put tyres as per your requirement, but size will be the 265-70-16. because with increasing tyre size u have to think about your suspension once again.

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    my dealer quoted Rs.68,000 for 4 Racho 9000XL Nitrogen gas charged shocks, with transportation to Peshawar, is this price fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by BKyousafzai View Post
    well Asad, if you want to put only sports shocks in your Safri and the rest will remain original, so as per my experience its will defiantly damage the shocks, because the original shocks are short then the sports one. change both of them or leave it in original specs as safari original suspension is also very very capable for offroading. it gives you maximum angle and smooth ride in rough terrain.

    2nd put tyres as per your requirement, but size will be the 265-70-16. because with increasing tyre size u have to think about your suspension once again.

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    thanks alot bk for ur professional input, i think its better that first i let u chk the vehicle urself and then advice me for any upgrades
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    Quote Originally Posted by asadsethi View Post
    thanks alot bk for ur professional input, i think its better that first i let u chk the vehicle urself and then advice me for any upgrades

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    Quote Originally Posted by asadsethi View Post
    my dealer quoted Rs.68,000 for 4 Racho 9000XL Nitrogen gas charged shocks, with transportation to Peshawar, is this price fine

    Asad its quite expensive, in this price u can get the iron Man shocks
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    Quote Originally Posted by BKyousafzai View Post
    Asad its quite expensive, in this price u can get the iron Man shocks
    bk i m not very much in in the suspensions, do u think Iron Man is better than Ranchos, i heard someone has dealership of ironman in Karachi, is it so
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    @asadsethi

    Firstly many congrats on your new rig, Mashallah. In my experience, 285-70-16 is the best size for your Nissan. If you go for 33's or higher, you will need to lift your rig by minimum 2 inches at least along with as BK said, steering damper and shocks. Get 285's and A/T not H/T. Best combo in my opinion. Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by asadsethi View Post
    bk i m not very much in in the suspensions, do u think Iron Man is better than Ranchos, i heard someone has dealership of ironman in Karachi, is it so
    i got ironman karachi no and talked to the guy, at present he is out of stock with safari shocks n springs, he quoted Rs.90,000 but says it may take more than 3-4 months to deliver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hayzin View Post
    @asadsethi

    Firstly many congrats on your new rig, Mashallah. In my experience, 285-70-16 is the best size for your Nissan. If you go for 33's or higher, you will need to lift your rig by minimum 2 inches at least along with as BK said, steering damper and shocks. Get 285's and A/T not H/T. Best combo in my opinion. Good luck
    thanks Hayzin
    i dont wanna put very big shoes, the stock size is 265-70-16, i need slighly bigger, so do u think putting 285-70-16 wont effect turning radius or touch shields etc or i should go for 275-70-16. Ya i am also more towardes A/Ts,
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    Do not go for suspension yet, Take it out for some trip and decide later on. Selecting type of suspension is important it has to be according to your load requirements. you should decide about Bullbar and Winch first if you want them then buy suspension accordingly.

    2" lift is very basic lift, yes they call it a kit but its not much of a kit. All bushes, springs+ shocks need to be upgraded(when a vehicle is lifted the diff is not centred so must important is that you replace the bushs) .

    i would recommend 2" lift with 33" tires and you have a pretty much capable vehicle.

    anything above then 2" life is really hardcore stuff which i dont think you will be needing and for that you will have to get longer control arms(which is part of the kit).
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    @asadsethi boss i will recommend that before replacing suspension first of all take it for a ride & off-roading, then you will know your suspension, then decide that you want to lift or not....


    Secondly about tires go for original size i.e. 265/70/16 in this size you can find Michelin LTX M/S or LTX M/S2 or LTX AT2, these are the best tires...
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    thanks qwertypoiu and demonoid for ur advices, i would definitely think about it
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    one more advice needed. The engine of my safari is very weak, i hav 2 options, either bore it with genuine parts or find the new kabli engine which would n the same TD42. What u guys suggest, although putting kabli engine would b double in cost but is it worth it or bore is more beneficial.
    I finally put the new shoes, Bridgestone Dueller A/T 275-70-16.
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