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    Default Diesel Pajero cold starting issue

    Hi all
    Recently, I purchased 1992 model Pajero diesel 2.5TD. Im facing the problem of cold start. In the morning, it refuses to start even after 10 heaters. After 12 o clock noon, it starts after 2nd or 3rd try. And after starting once, then without any heater, it is half self start. Also gives smoke at start.
    It is driven more than 300k kms. I want to know from experts whether it is due to glow plugs, timing, valve seals, or nozzles of pump.
    I know the problem will be resolved after this cold weather but want to dig out the reason. Also suggest any other solution if needed.
    Shall be grateful for this help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    whats wrong with using Delo Gold if you want mineral oil.

    If you want a really good flowing oil for winter - you need mobil1 diesel 5w40 or similar. Havoline 5W40 also is good.
    I had used Delo Gold for many years in my 2.0D Corolla and much satisfied with it but I dont know whether it is good for Turbo charged engines. My friend told me that this Cespa oil is specially manufactured for Turbo Diesel Engines.

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    the Delo Gold by Caltex is for oldschool NA and turbocharged diesel engines. The only special diesel oils nowadays are the ashless oils required by engines that have particulate filters in the exhaust and urea injection too.

    You dont have that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    the Delo Gold by Caltex is for oldschool NA and turbocharged diesel engines. The only special diesel oils nowadays are the ashless oils required by engines that have particulate filters in the exhaust and urea injection too.

    You dont have that.
    Thanx for suggestion. Will put Delo Gold 15W-40 in future instead of Silver 20W-50(used by previous owner).

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    15w40 might not be suitable if you experience freezing weather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    15w40 might not be suitable if you experience freezing weather.
    Now weather is getting better. temperature has gone somewhat high. And Min temp here is -3~-4 but only for few days in the end of December or start of January. Moreover starting of my Jero improved after putting the new battery. Now, I will check other culprits one by one.

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    Today morning, Pajero was started in half self. So, I think one of the batteries was causing the whole mess. And the result is that I am satisfied now with starting issue at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmeerUsman View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by engineermali View Post
    MashaAllah nice ride
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    15w40 might not be suitable if you experience freezing weather.

    than which grade oil u recommend sir for Pajero 10w40?

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    for freezing weather, 5w40 or even 0w40 from Shell, Mobil or Caltex diesel rated oils.

    the engine will spin really quick even in Siachen in December.

    today its frozen in houston - my car had 1 inch thick ICE on it, ice not snow, temperature is -4 C and my mercedes which uses mobil1 0w40 started like it was summer. Quick, smooth and easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    for freezing weather, 5w40 or even 0w40 from Shell, Mobil or Caltex diesel rated oils.

    the engine will spin really quick even in Siachen in December.

    today its frozen in houston - my car had 1 inch thick ICE on it, ice not snow, temperature is -4 C and my mercedes which uses mobil1 0w40 started like it was summer. Quick, smooth and easy.
    Brother U R Right but low viscosity oils may lead to more engine blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    15w40 might not be suitable if you experience freezing weather.
    Today changed the oil. Delo Gold Ultra 15W-40
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    6.5 litre with original guard filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmeerUsman View Post
    Today changed the oil. Delo Gold Ultra 15W-40
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    6.5 litre with original guard filter.
    I used same oil for my Pajero 2 days back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babarhyd View Post
    I used same oil for my Pajero 2 days back.

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    Brother please share ur experience. This is first oil change of my Pajero. Previous owner was using Delo Silver 20W-50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmeerUsman View Post
    Brother please share ur experience. This is first oil change of my Pajero. Previous owner was using Delo Silver 20W-50.
    As suggested by senior members I will be changing my oil after 2000kms. Because of low quality oil filter I am using Qaim oil filter. But you can change the oil after 3500 kms. After oil change I can feel the difference in engine sound and pickup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babarhyd View Post
    As suggested by senior members I will be changing my oil after 2000kms. Because of low quality oil filter I am using Qaim oil filter. But you can change the oil after 3500 kms. After oil change I can feel the difference in engine sound and pickup.

    Sent from my Z3 using PW Forums mobile app

    lube oil not be cheap change at 3000 and with OEM filter, please always be cautious for the filters in future. i believe 5000 km is right interval for engine oil change un urban running unless conditions are purely rural off road rusty dusty watery blah blah blah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by capsat View Post

    lube oil not be cheap change at 3000 and with OEM filter, please always be cautious for the filters in future. i believe 5000 km is right interval for engine oil change un urban running unless conditions are purely rural off road rusty dusty watery blah blah blah.
    What made filter should I go for? Guard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by babarhyd View Post
    What made filter should I go for? Guard?

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    Leppon filters are very good. I used guard filter today because it was the best available in my town. I am planning to use OEM filter for the nest time Insha Allah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmeerUsman View Post
    Brother U R Right but low viscosity oils may lead to more engine blow.
    0w40 has the same hot viscosity. its low trmperature viscosity is lighter meaning its morevfluid at low temprrature.

    your engine will show the exact same behaviour of blow with both oils
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    0w40 has the same hot viscosity. its low trmperature viscosity is lighter meaning its morevfluid at low temprrature.

    your engine will show the exact same behaviour of blow with both oils
    Thanx for the explanation sir. But today i changed oil and used Delo Gold Ultra. BTW weather already changed a little and no issue of freezing point now.

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