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    Salam
    Im getting bored of driving cars since the past few years and im seeing alot of guys of my age getting SUV's (mostly mutts/CJ/Willy and LC 40 series) and running them on CNG so im thinking of getting an RKR
    Now i have a few queries
    how much would the jeep cost ?
    Which engines(petrol) and transmission can be installed ?
    Can the soft top be converted to a hard top ? there is also fibre top version so can i get that ?
    Could the suspension be changed with the one off a late 70 series Prado ?
    I know this sounds kinda stupid so please go easy on me


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    I myself is searching for a 4x4 but only for weekends use
    What ever you get, plz keep it on petrol/diesel, don't get CNG installed...Drive it occasionally but on petrol/diesel
    1)Suzuki Mehran has changed its shape 2)Fake parts drive me nuts
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    Quote Originally Posted by vickybhai View Post
    I myself is searching for a 4x4 but only for weekends use
    What ever you get, plz keep it on petrol/diesel, don't get CNG installed...Drive it occasionally but on petrol/diesel
    it all depends upon getting one first

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    It all starts from selecting the right vehicle.....

    You need to find the balance between what you "want" and what you "need"

    How do you plan to use it?

    Study first.....give yourself some time on web and learn about the vehicles you mentioned, and then begin.....hurrying up may pull you into buying a vehicle which later may turn out to be the wrong choice....

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    Search pakwheels there are many threads on the subject
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    Quote Originally Posted by hsumbal1 View Post
    It all starts from selecting the right vehicle.....

    You need to find the balance between what you "want" and what you "need"

    How do you plan to use it?

    Study first.....give yourself some time on web and learn about the vehicles you mentioned, and then begin.....hurrying up may pull you into buying a vehicle which later may turn out to be the wrong choice....

    TC
    Now thats a a comprehensive reply
    my plans are to use it as a weekend cruiser
    What I want is a decent looking vehicle balance between power and economy
    I am doing my homework on this subject and have gone through countless projects even on international forums too
    Im in no hurry to get one will sort out the details first and InshAllah get the jeep after Eid

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertypoiu View Post
    Search pakwheels there are many threads on the subject
    I did
    but most of them are for hard core offroading purposes where as my plan is to have a good looking cruiser
    might upgrade it off-roading purposes after a few years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahad.Ayub View Post
    Now thats a a comprehensive reply
    my plans are to use it as a weekend cruiser
    What I want is a decent looking vehicle balance between power and economy
    I am doing my homework on this subject and have gone through countless projects even on international forums too
    Im in no hurry to get one will sort out the details first and InshAllah get the jeep after Eid
    Power and economy is a difficult combo to get.....but if you want good liter per kilometer then I will recommend a diesel motor, which from your post suggests that you don't fancy...

    Well its too early to talk about that....in case the vehicle in question is just going to be your weekend ride then economy should not be an issue....I would also recommend to drop the idea of CNG.

    If you don't mind me asking! how much money are you planing to spend on this project? This will help us suggest the car which will fit your budget best
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    Quote Originally Posted by hsumbal1 View Post
    Power and economy is a difficult combo to get.....but if you want good liter per kilometer then I will recommend a diesel motor, which from your post suggests that you don't fancy...

    Well its too early to talk about that....in case the vehicle in question is just going to be your weekend ride then economy should not be an issue....I would also recommend to drop the idea of CNG.

    If you don't mind me asking! how much money are you planing to spend on this project? This will help us suggest the car which will fit your budget best
    I know power and economy are two entirely different things so i'd have to compromise on one of them
    the only reason im not willing for a diesel motor is that im not familiar with them neither have we kept a diesel vehicle except Charades
    that too in early 2000
    The budget i have in mind is around 800k again depends upon the price of the vehicle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahad.Ayub View Post
    I know power and economy are two entirely different things so i'd have to compromise on one of them
    the only reason im not willing for a diesel motor is that im not familiar with them neither have we kept a diesel vehicle except Charades
    that too in early 2000
    The budget i have in mind is around 800k again depends upon the price of the vehicle
    800k is a handsome amount for building a rkr i guess

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    LC 70s are hardcore offroaders from model 1986 to 1989 BJ/HZJ/FZJ) with 3B, 13bt 1hz and 1fz engines in some later reconditioned models. They are leafsprings (kamani) so abit uncomfortable for daily drive. Easily available in market as they were and still are used and auctioned by forces and police etc.

    Lj/kzj are 1990 to 1994 shape with coil springs so not too bumpy to drive. Comes with 2l/2l-t and 1kz engines. A v8 1uz can be swapped in these models but its not recommended.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahad.Ayub View Post
    I know power and economy are two entirely different things so i'd have to compromise on one of them
    the only reason im not willing for a diesel motor is that im not familiar with them neither have we kept a diesel vehicle except Charades
    that too in early 2000
    The budget i have in mind is around 800k again depends upon the price of the vehicle
    Your budget is reasonable......but in my opinion a good 70 series may still be out of reach for you......any how you can find a decent late 80s 70 series and then you can work on it to improve it...do not consider buying a 70 from the army auction and restoring it in this budget coz it may not work out....
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    Quote Originally Posted by venmouskiller View Post
    800k is a handsome amount for building a rkr i guess
    I guess so

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    Quote Originally Posted by hsumbal1 View Post
    Your budget is reasonable......but in my opinion a good 70 series may still be out of reach for you......any how you can find a decent late 80s 70 series and then you can work on it to improve it...do not consider buying a 70 from the army auction and restoring it in this budget coz it may not work out....
    Actually i can get a 3 door diesel 70 series here in KHI but the engine,transmission body etc would need loads of work
    the reason im considering getting an army auction vehicle is that i can restore according to my taste first preference was getting a FJ40 but getting parts would be kinda difficult here and my family wont approve
    BTW in your opinion how much much would an RKR cost in auction ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahad.Ayub View Post
    Actually i can get a 3 door diesel 70 series here in KHI but the engine,transmission body etc would need loads of work
    the reason im considering getting an army auction vehicle is that i can restore according to my taste first preference was getting a FJ40 but getting parts would be kinda difficult here and my family wont approve
    BTW in your opinion how much much would an RKR cost in auction ?
    hmmmmmmmmmmmm

    Look a 70 series is not in a big supply as yet as far as the army auctions go, so they are a bit expensive; like in Lahore you will have to spend anywhere between 350K to 450K for a 70 depending on the condition, in 800K budget, speaking through my personal experience of working on two rigs, you wont be able to do a vehicle completely.

    You can find a decent 70 series in 800K to 900K.
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    I agree with @hsumbal, restoring an army auctioned rkr to a reliable machine in 800k is next to impossible. I restored mine some 2 yrs back and ended up spending arnf 1.0 million and tht too without anything fancy.

    I'll provide a rough break up cost which could help u in getting and idea of the costs involved

    Vehicle form army auction with taxes- 400-550k ( I got mine for 510k)
    Registration- 70K
    Tyres and rims 100k
    new carb-25k
    electricals-15k
    bearings and suspension -25k
    power steering- 20-30k
    Air con- 30k
    soft top- 15k
    seats and interior- 25k
    dent paint-60-80k
    brakes-10-15k
    engine overhauling- 50k

    Add another 50k for miscellaneous works and than the fuel cost involved in sourcing the right parts.


    My rkr restoration thread
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/4x4...r-fj70-aka-rkr
    1)Merdcedes W124-Daily driven, 2)Toyota FJ70 RKR-Reliable offroader, 3)Mitsubishi Pajero Shogun-Comfy workshorse, 4)M38A1-Fun ride, 5)Daewoo Racer- Econimically reliable

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    Quote Originally Posted by taimoorkhan View Post
    I agree with @hsumbal, restoring an army auctioned rkr to a reliable machine in 800k is next to impossible. I restored mine some 2 yrs back and ended up spending arnf 1.0 million and tht too without anything fancy.

    I'll provide a rough break up cost which could help u in getting and idea of the costs involved

    Vehicle form army auction with taxes- 400-550k ( I got mine for 510k)
    Registration- 70K
    Tyres and rims 100k
    new carb-25k
    electricals-15k
    bearings and suspension -25k
    power steering- 20-30k
    Air con- 30k
    soft top- 15k
    seats and interior- 25k
    dent paint-60-80k
    brakes-10-15k
    engine overhauling- 50k

    Add another 50k for miscellaneous works and than the fuel cost involved in sourcing the right parts.


    My rkr restoration thread
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/4x4...r-fj70-aka-rkr
    I've seen your thread and the vehicle turned quite good
    So a completely restored vehicle will set me back around 1.0 million
    man thats alot of money
    i'll consider other options and do a little market survey
    thanks for your input

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    I'll recommend that you go for FJ40 and restore it as per ur specification and requirement. You will have lots of options in selecting engines, suspension, seats, tires/rims and ur choice of colour.
    Khalid Khan

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    Quote Originally Posted by taimoorkhan View Post
    I agree with @hsumbal, restoring an army auctioned rkr to a reliable machine in 800k is next to impossible. I restored mine some 2 yrs back and ended up spending arnf 1.0 million and tht too without anything fancy.

    I'll provide a rough break up cost which could help u in getting and idea of the costs involved

    Vehicle form army auction with taxes- 400-550k ( I got mine for 510k)
    Registration- 70K
    Tyres and rims 100k
    new carb-25k
    electricals-15k
    bearings and suspension -25k
    power steering- 20-30k
    Air con- 30k
    soft top- 15k
    seats and interior- 25k
    dent paint-60-80k
    brakes-10-15k
    engine overhauling- 50k

    Add another 50k for miscellaneous works and than the fuel cost involved in sourcing the right parts.


    My rkr restoration thread
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/4x4...r-fj70-aka-rkr
    And now registration is 115k for punjab
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    Get a amnesty cleared suzuki sj410 samurai 1.3 litre engine coil spring version and mughay dua daina for this advice. I am saying this with experience
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