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    Default Engine Oil recommendation for Prado 2009-2013 TX 2.7 litre engine

    What oil grade is recommended for Toyota Prado 2009-2013 TX 2.7 petrol model according to Pakistani weather? 0W50 or 5W40? I have the Japanese manual but couldn't understand a word.
    Also what brand do you guys recommend? How's Mobil-1 or should we go for Caltex or Toyota oil?

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    0 is for extremely cold weather, 5W40 should be ok for summers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kala_shah_kaku View Post
    What oil grade is recommended for Toyota Prado 2009-2013 TX 2.7 petrol model according to Pakistani weather? 0W50 or 5W40? I have the Japanese manual but couldn't understand a word.
    Also what brand do you guys recommend? How's Mobil-1 or should we go for Caltex or Toyota oil?

    Use 10W-40 which is perfect according Pak's weather conditions.

    Use Mobil 1 or Liqui Moly
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    10W-40 is very thick. I don't think it's recommended for new engines. So I wanted to go for synthetic.


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    Use 10W-40 which is perfect according Pak's weather conditions.

    Use Mobil 1 or Liqui Moly

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    But 0W-50 can also handle warm weather. It's just that it's viscosity is very thin. So I am confused between these two. Any recommendation with solid reference would be appreciated.


    Quote Originally Posted by shabbir233 View Post
    0 is for extremely cold weather, 5W40 should be ok for summers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kala_shah_kaku View Post
    10W-40 is very thick. I don't think it's recommended for new engines. So I wanted to go for synthetic.
    Sir 10W-40 is not thick as compare to 0W-50, 0W-50 is thicker than 10W-40, its thin & its synthetic technology! If you go for more thinner oil that is 10W-30 or 0W-30 than this in PAK, your engine will consume oil due to this viscosity! You can also use 5W-40 that is synthetic, but it will be lil bit consumed after around 4000-4500 Km then you will need a top up! Therefore 10W-40 is perfect
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    Quote Originally Posted by kala_shah_kaku View Post
    10W-40 is very thick. I don't think it's recommended for new engines. So I wanted to go for synthetic.
    Also you can visit this link & you can learn yourself what is the recommended oil for your vehicle, but remember these recommendations are for EUROPE so, if you go according to PAK weather, then 10W-40 is recommended

    LIQUI MOLY - Motor Oils, Additives, Car Care - Oil Guide

    Engine Oil recommendation for Prado 20092013 TX 27 litre engine -1584266

    The stress on the oil caused by increased maximum revs, power output and temperature may require that an oil of a different type and viscosity grade would be required.

    These examples show viscosities at different temperatures:

    Grade................0degC............10degC...... .........40degC...............100degC

    0w-40...............665cst.............354cst........ ..........82cst................14cst
    5w-40...............842cst............ 430cst..................91cst................14cst
    10w-40.............874cst.............440cst .................91cst................14cst
    15w-40...........1260cst.............595cst........... ......107cst................14cst
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    10w 40 Liqui Moly MOS2. You can thank me later
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    Valvoline Durablend 10w40 api sn if going for semi syn, valvoline 5w40 api sn syn power full syn oil. Both are very good oil.
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    Are you sure 10W40 is fully synthetic? I have used Total 10W40 and it's not synthetic and it's performance is far less than Caltex 10W30 which is thinner and lasts at least 1000 km more on my Civic.
    I am still not convinced to use 10W40 in Prado based on my experience. More feedback will be appreciated.


    Quote Originally Posted by Demonoid View Post
    Sir 10W-40 is not thick as compare to 0W-50, 0W-50 is thicker than 10W-40, its thin & its synthetic technology! If you go for more thinner oil that is 10W-30 or 0W-30 than this in PAK, your engine will consume oil due to this viscosity! You can also use 5W-40 that is synthetic, but it will be lil bit consumed after around 4000-4500 Km then you will need a top up! Therefore 10W-40 is perfect

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    Quote Originally Posted by kala_shah_kaku View Post
    Are you sure 10W40 is fully synthetic? I have used Total 10W40 and it's not synthetic and it's performance is far less than Caltex 10W30 which is thinner and lasts at least 1000 km more on my Civic.
    I am still not convinced to use 10W40 in Prado based on my experience. More feedback will be appreciated.
    When did i say 10W-40 is fully synthetic? i think i didnt it is synthetic technology, yes you are right 10W-30 wont last much as it is much thinner than 10W-40. Even 5W-40 & 10W-40 are same almost, the only difference is Cranking viscosity

    and i agree with @HAshims 10W-40 Mos2 is also a better option it is semi synthetic

    First of all tell me your concept of using engine oil then i might be able to help you out,

    Why do you want to use 0W-50 or 5W-40?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kala_shah_kaku View Post
    10W-40 is very thick. I don't think it's recommended for new engines. So I wanted to go for synthetic.
    You can find 10W-40 fully synthetic in Micking Oil. Have been using it for years now. best experience.

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    Then try 5w-40 of Liqui Moly. AFAIK its fully synthetic.
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    Pour Shell Helix ultra fully synthetic and keep drain interval max @ 5k kms. This should work fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sk_KingpiN View Post
    Pour Shell Helix ultra fully synthetic and keep drain interval max @ 5k kms. This should work fine.
    good idea. should be fine and since the oil is easily available so shouldnt be an issue too.

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    All easily available brands comes in fake copies as well, keep that in mind.
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    Here are my concerns and experiences.
    1. 10W30 by Caltex and 10W40 by Total are not synthetic.
    2. 10W40 is thicker and gets really black only after 2500 km in my Civic whereas 10W30 easily lasts 3500 km and I usually change it around 4000 km.
    3. The engine sound when using 10W40 is quite heavy. Although, I haven't measured performance, pickup etc.
    4. Experienced the same behavior with my Generators.

    Now I want to go fully synthetic. Even though it says 0W50 or 5W40 the inner temperature of an engine is hundreds of degrees higher than outside so logically external temperature of 10c wouldn't make a huge difference. The basic idea of synthetic oils is to get a better oil which cleans your engine deposits better, lasts longer and doesn't loose viscosity. So for all these reasons I am still not convinced 10W40 is a better choice than a fully synthetic 0W50 or 5W40.

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    Try this LIQUI MOLY - Motor Oils, Additives, Car Care - Products - Synthoil High Tech 5W-40

    Filter House at Main Blvd. DHA has all the range of LM.

    I would suggest you to avoid local brands and do not forget to do engine flush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kala_shah_kaku View Post
    Here are my concerns and experiences.
    1. 10W30 by Caltex and 10W40 by Total are not synthetic.
    2. 10W40 is thicker and gets really black only after 2500 km in my Civic whereas 10W30 easily lasts 3500 km and I usually change it around 4000 km.
    3. The engine sound when using 10W40 is quite heavy. Although, I haven't measured performance, pickup etc.
    4. Experienced the same behavior with my Generators.

    Now I want to go fully synthetic. Even though it says 0W50 or 5W40 the inner temperature of an engine is hundreds of degrees higher than outside so logically external temperature of 10c wouldn't make a huge difference. The basic idea of synthetic oils is to get a better oil which cleans your engine deposits better, lasts longer and doesn't loose viscosity. So for all these reasons I am still not convinced 10W40 is a better choice than a fully synthetic 0W50 or 5W40.
    Sir its all about brand & quality you use, i dont trust local qualities, same case happened with my lancer 1.5, Mitsubishi Motors used KIXX 10W-30 it gets blackish brown after 2000Km, when i started using Liqui Moly Super 10W-40, & it ran 5000 Km amazingly, I am using Liqui Moly Products for 3 Good years, so thats why am giving you advice accordingly.

    10W-40 is all rounder

    Liqui Moly Super LeichtLauf 10W-40 is Synthetic technology
    Liqui Moly MOS2 10W-40 is semi synthetic

    Remember fully synthetic oil does not last longer, due to its thinner viscosity, engine consumes oil.... after 3000 Km you have to top up 400-500 ml oil

    Also dont ever use Engine Flush, it is never recommended or you can say i dont recommend

    Use Liqui Moly 10W-40 and you will get the idea whether it is thinner or thicker
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    Why not this toyotas new fully synthetic oil... use oem oils and filters...

    My understanding about oils is it depends on rhe tempratures one runs in. So in my opinion this is good to go and price is around 3800
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