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    Default Engine Oil recommendation for Prado 2009-2013 TX 2.7 litre engine

    What oil grade is recommended for Toyota Prado 2009-2013 TX 2.7 petrol model according to Pakistani weather? 0W50 or 5W40? I have the Japanese manual but couldn't understand a word.
    Also what brand do you guys recommend? How's Mobil-1 or should we go for Caltex or Toyota oil?

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    I fail to understand why people prefer this amazingly expansive liqui moly when a locally blended oil is available which is better and cheaper as well.
    People please try to understand you cannot judge the condition of oil by having a look at its colour.
    Oil turning from it's colour to black doesn't mean that it has given up. Blackened oil means engine oil is doing its job perfectly to keep the engine clean. Suppose if the drain interval of an oil is 5000kms and even at 3000-3500 kms oil is still in its color and haven't turned black, it doesn't mean it can run for another 5000 kms. Rather it is alarming that engine oil isn't doing its job perfectly.

    @OP no need to go for these liqui moly oils. They are only expansive. Give Shell helix ultra fully synthetic a try and you won't be disappointed.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sk_KingpiN View Post
    I fail to understand why people prefer this amazingly expansive liqui moly when a locally blended oil is available which is better and cheaper as well.
    People please try to understand you cannot judge the condition of oil by having a look at its colour.
    Oil turning from it's colour to black doesn't mean that it has given up. Blackened oil means engine oil is doing its job perfectly to keep the engine clean. Suppose if the drain interval of an oil is 5000kms and even at 3000-3500 kms oil is still in its color and haven't turned black, it doesn't mean it can run for another 5000 kms. Rather it is alarming that engine oil isn't doing its job perfectly.

    @OP no need to go for these liqui moly oils. They are only expansive. Give Shell helix ultra fully synthetic a try and you won't be disappointed.



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    Liqui Moly Products are expensive really, are you sure????

    & You are comparing German Manufactured Quality with Local Manufactured Quality, Are You crazy or what?

    I prefer these so called expensive oil because i have been using Liqui Moly products for 3 good years. These are quality oils & supposed to give you better performance other than local oils which i am getting. And yes i have tried every brand of oil to test their performance, you name the oil & i have use it... and i found Liqui Moly better, "Sir aise he Liqui moly Number 1 nai hai there is something about it thats why people use it"so please you have to review your opinion or suggestions again & refresh your research on your oils!
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    @Demonoid,

    yr review about valvoline products will be nice to read since u have tried every brand of oil and have declared LM #1 oil .

    kindly compare LM with Valvoline.

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    5W40 Shell Helix Ultra if car had regular oil changes and has less then 100k kms else go for 10W40 in any good brand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonoid View Post
    Liqui Moly Products are expensive really, are you sure????

    & You are comparing German Manufactured Quality with Local Manufactured Quality, Are You crazy or what?

    I prefer these so called expensive oil because i have been using Liqui Moly products for 3 good years. These are quality oils & supposed to give you better performance other than local oils which i am getting. And yes i have tried every brand of oil to test their performance, you name the oil & i have use it... and i found Liqui Moly better, "Sir aise he Liqui moly Number 1 nai hai there is something about it thats why people use it"so please you have to review your opinion or suggestions again & refresh your research on your oils!
    Your thoughts about Mobil 1 ? LM is also good oil but it is no where Number 1. Shell Helix Ultra is more then enough for all top end and mid cars in Pakistan, im not promoting Shell but telling the truth that this oil has very good properties. Can last easily upto 10k kms in bigger sumps but 4cyl are recommended around 5-6k.

    Although Shell has more Approvals and Recommendations and is API SN rather then SM
    Shell helix Ultra 5W40 API SN/CF ACEA A3/B4
    BMW LL-01 MB 229.5 226.5 VW 502.00/505.00 Porsche A40 RN 0700/0710 PSA B71 2296 Ferrari Fiat 9.55535.Z2/9.55535.GH2 Chrysler MS 10725/ MS 12991

    LM Synthoil Hi tech 5W40 API SM ACEA A3
    BMW Longlife-98 MB 229.3 Porsche A40 VW502.00/505.00

    Both are good oils but if compare prices and benefits then i will prefer Shell over LM anyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archon2001 View Post
    @Demonoid,

    yr review about valvoline products will be nice to read since u have tried every brand of oil and have declared LM #1 oil .

    kindly compare LM with Valvoline.

    thank you
    Yup for me it is Number 1 & The best oil brand around here & Yes tried every local brand, In imported Also tried Mobil 1 too but i will prefer Mobil 1 After liqui moly!

    LOL heard very first time about valvoline from you? wat abt it? its European brand so? They do not have even distributor in Pak, so i ll pass
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedraja1996 View Post
    Your thoughts about Mobil 1 ? LM is also good oil but it is no where Number 1. Shell Helix Ultra is more then enough for all top end and mid cars in Pakistan, im not promoting Shell but telling the truth that this oil has very good properties. Can last easily upto 10k kms in bigger sumps but 4cyl are recommended around 5-6k.

    Although Shell has more Approvals and Recommendations and is API SN rather then SM
    Shell helix Ultra 5W40 API SN/CF ACEA A3/B4
    BMW LL-01 MB 229.5 226.5 VW 502.00/505.00 Porsche A40 RN 0700/0710 PSA B71 2296 Ferrari Fiat 9.55535.Z2/9.55535.GH2 Chrysler MS 10725/ MS 12991

    LM Synthoil Hi tech 5W40 API SM ACEA A3
    BMW Longlife-98 MB 229.3 Porsche A40 VW502.00/505.00

    Both are good oils but if compare prices and benefits then i will prefer Shell over LM anyday.
    Mobil 1 is good too, bt still i will prefer Liqui Moly first then Mobil 1, but still Liqui moly is not that bad as you are thinking or propsing, everyone is free to have their opinion, am not saying you should do this or not, am just sharing my experience nothing else

    Here are the approvals of LM 5W-40

    LM Leichtlauf High Tech 5W-40 (PKR 4000/- Almost Same as Shell 5W-40)
    (ACEA A3 ; ACEA B4 ; API CF ; API SN ; BMW Longlife-01 ; MB-Freigabe 229.5 ; Porsche A40 ; Renault RN 0700 ; Renault RN 0710 ; VW 502 00/505 00)

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    I used shell ultra 5w40 fully synthetic on my vigo 2700cc petrol.....work great n change interval 7500km with oil filter
    My lugnuts require more torque than your Vtec can put out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonoid View Post
    Yup for me it is Number 1 & The best oil brand around here & Yes tried every local brand, In imported Also tried Mobil 1 too but i will prefer Mobil 1 After liqui moly!

    LOL heard very first time about valvoline from you? wat abt it? its European brand so? They do not have even distributor in Pak, so i ll pass
    not yr fault less knowledge is blessing for most of us. strange u claimed to have use every oil and never heard one of the oldest motor oil manufacture in the world.
    valvoline is not a grey channel import product like LM .
    they officially exist in pakistan. check out there website and fb page (valvoline pakistan).
    mobil 1 is overly priced oil for our local shopping trolley and lawn mowers, and LM what can i say this oil only exist on PW LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonoid View Post
    Liqui Moly Products are expensive really, are you sure????

    & You are comparing German Manufactured Quality with Local Manufactured Quality, Are You crazy or what?

    I prefer these so called expensive oil because i have been using Liqui Moly products for 3 good years. These are quality oils & supposed to give you better performance other than local oils which i am getting. And yes i have tried every brand of oil to test their performance, you name the oil & i have use it... and i found Liqui Moly better, "Sir aise he Liqui moly Number 1 nai hai there is something about it thats why people use it"so please you have to review your opinion or suggestions again & refresh your research on your oils!
    Sir yes you read it right. I'm comparing a locally blended oil with a German manufactured oil because I don't believe in that logic "Imported hay to acha hay"
    Rather I prefer oils over there technical specifications. My knowledge is pretty much updated and still learning.

    Let me tell you my experience of these locally blended oils. I've been using Honda's Genuine fully synthetic oil(Total quartz) since 2010 in my both Hondas which are clocked above 113k km. I drive for 1000 kms straight after a month without giving any rest to my car and a 100 km daily in isb.

    Never ever. I repeat never ever faced any issue and both of the cars still runs like brand new cars Alhamdulillah. Fuel economy, pick everything is great.
    In my recently purchased Toyota Altis Grande I'm using shell helix ultra fully synthetic and and LC 200 Zx. Both cars are performing flawlessly. Lc has clocked around 70k kms and still going strong.

    I have poured Liqui Moly Mos2 and 5w-40 fully synthetic in a 2010 city and 8th gen civic. I didn't feel any difference in pick, drive and fuel economy. Why should I pay more for Liqui Moly's 5w-30 when a locally blended oil is giving me the same performance and I'm more than satisfied.
    Lastly. Please check the BMW and Mercedes or VW engine oil recommendations list. You will even find Shell helix ultra enlisted over there.
    I'd like to tag our respected members and experts here in this thread to share their opinion about Shell helix ultra and these expansive for nothing Liqui Moly oils. @Xulfiqar @capsat



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sk_KingpiN View Post
    Sir yes you read it right. I'm comparing a locally blended oil with a German manufactured oil because I don't believe in that logic "Imported hay to acha hay"
    Rather I prefer oils over there technical specifications. My knowledge is pretty much updated and still learning.

    Let me tell you my experience of these locally blended oils. I've been using Honda's Genuine fully synthetic oil(Total quartz) since 2010 in my both Hondas which are clocked above 113k km. I drive for 1000 kms straight after a month without giving any rest to my car and a 100 km daily in isb.

    Never ever. I repeat never ever faced any issue and both of the cars still runs like brand new cars Alhamdulillah. Fuel economy, pick everything is great.
    In my recently purchased Toyota Altis Grande I'm using shell helix ultra fully synthetic and and LC 200 Zx. Both cars are performing flawlessly. Lc has clocked around 70k kms and still going strong.

    I have poured Liqui Moly Mos2 and 5w-40 fully synthetic in a 2010 city and 8th gen civic. I didn't feel any difference in pick, drive and fuel economy. Why should I pay more for Liqui Moly's 5w-30 when a locally blended oil is giving me the same performance and I'm more than satisfied.
    Lastly. Please check the BMW and Mercedes or VW engine oil recommendations list. You will even find Shell helix ultra enlisted over there.
    I'd like to tag our respected members and experts here in this thread to share their opinion about Shell helix ultra and these expansive for nothing Liqui Moly oils. @Xulfiqar @capsat



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sk_KingpiN View Post
    Sir yes you read it right. I'm comparing a locally blended oil with a German manufactured oil because I don't believe in that logic "Imported hay to acha hay"
    Rather I prefer oils over there technical specifications. My knowledge is pretty much updated and still learning.

    Let me tell you my experience of these locally blended oils. I've been using Honda's Genuine fully synthetic oil(Total quartz) since 2010 in my both Hondas which are clocked above 113k km. I drive for 1000 kms straight after a month without giving any rest to my car and a 100 km daily in isb.

    Never ever. I repeat never ever faced any issue and both of the cars still runs like brand new cars Alhamdulillah. Fuel economy, pick everything is great.
    In my recently purchased Toyota Altis Grande I'm using shell helix ultra fully synthetic and and LC 200 Zx. Both cars are performing flawlessly. Lc has clocked around 70k kms and still going strong.

    I have poured Liqui Moly Mos2 and 5w-40 fully synthetic in a 2010 city and 8th gen civic. I didn't feel any difference in pick, drive and fuel economy. Why should I pay more for Liqui Moly's 5w-30 when a locally blended oil is giving me the same performance and I'm more than satisfied.
    Lastly. Please check the BMW and Mercedes or VW engine oil recommendations list. You will even find Shell helix ultra enlisted over there.
    I'd like to tag our respected members and experts here in this thread to share their opinion about Shell helix ultra and these expansive for nothing Liqui Moly oils. @Xulfiqar @capsat



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    Yeah and i also prefer oils over there tech specs

    BUT

    Still you didnt clarify how is Liqui Moly Expensive & how shell is cheaper

    I thnk Shell 5W-30 is PKR 3700/-
    LM 5W-30 is PKR 3700/-


    So i will still prefer Liqui Moly over shell as tech specs are almost same, 2ndly i wont have doubt that is it locally manufactured or imported... 3rdly its german technology

    Still i have my opinion & point of view So i will stay On Liqui Moly, unless until you give me one gud reason that liqui moly is not good! The above reasons are not good enuf for me!

    as i am still learning too, but i shared wat i know best...... I'd also like to hear opinions of senior & experienced members
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    LM is a trusted brand to me, pour LM ceretec in any engine above 50K driven along with a recommended engine oil for that car and then see the difference.

    The reason i avoid locally made oils like shell, zic is fake copies
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonoid View Post
    Yeah and i also prefer oils over there tech specs

    BUT

    Still you didnt clarify how is Liqui Moly Expensive & how shell is cheaper

    I thnk Shell 5W-30 is PKR 3700/-
    LM 5W-30 is PKR 3700/-


    So i will still prefer Liqui Moly over shell as tech specs are almost same, 2ndly i wont have doubt that is it locally manufactured or imported... 3rdly its german technology

    Still i have my opinion & point of view So i will stay On Liqui Moly, unless until you give me one gud reason that liqui moly is not good! The above reasons are not good enuf for me!

    as i am still learning too, but i shared wat i know best...... I'd also like to hear opinions of senior & experienced members
    @Xulfiqar, sir whats your say?

    Liqui Moly 5w40 synthoil fully synthetic is 4500rs but not sure.....shell ultra is 5w40 grade, 5w30 grade has been stopped
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    130000 + 180000 km over Shell Helix - in a 23 year old 1.3l [ 5000 km interval ] 2E engine. -

    176000 km 2.7l SUV[ 5000km interval ] - Only Shell oil, I buy Shell from SHELL pumps only so far never faced any problem.
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    At last some useful comments and opinion, although no useful experiences. I knew 10W40 is not meant for new engines. I didn't have good experience with it. You don't experience much performance difference when it comes to a car but when you use generators there's a hell of a difference. The engine sound tells you how it's reacting to an oil when you put maximum load on it. Caltex 10W30 is the smoothest one I found for my Generators for both Gas and Petrol
    Coming back to cars I believe all new engines should be using fully synthetic oils. Nothing against LM but I would personally prefer to go with Mobil-1 but I was confused between 0W50 and 5W40. So far 5W40 seems to be the winner but has anyone ever tried 0W50 ever? Any experience sharing would be nice.

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    It does not matter.. if its zero or 5 because both is not needed here... and I guess one would have to see cost
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