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    Default Difference between Tiger and Surf

    Guys,
    One of my friends is considering buying a 4x4, he has shortlisted two vehicles, a 03 Hilux Tiger and a 96 hilux surf, which are roughly around the same prices.

    He is confused as to what the better deal would be since the tiger is thai and the surf a jap and also in terms of parts availability (important), comfort (important), better road performance, offroading, and resale.

    Would appreciate the experts valuable views on this especially from people who have experience in owning or driving both or who have an idea about these vehicles

    Thanks

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    @mudassirinamullah
    if the tiger is imported from thailand than it won't b having heater to get warm in winters....if the tiger is a d4d than keep one thing in mind that its engine nozzles will have to b repaced after 60k -70k......and if surf has coil spring suspension than do go for it as it would b more comfortable...
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    @shani, thanks for your reply
    i will check if the tiger has a heater (its very odd that a thai model wouldnt), the 96 surf does have coil springs i think, experts do correct me if i am wrong.
    The mileage of the tiger is 92000 kms, how do you check if the engine nozzles have been changed or not and how much of an expense are we looking at it if they have not been, and what are the drawbooks if they are not changed (sorry i dont have a clue as to what function they serve)
    Tiger is D4D with a newer engine than the surf that has a 1kz both are auto though

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    tiger has leaf spring susp.no heater engine is D4D.nozzle cost around 75000/-new and 80000-120000/- from shuba bazzar.dont ask me why new ones are cheaper.
    p.s.go for the surf as the 96 model is quite comfortable and has good performance but a bit heavy on fuel and parts are available.
    hope this helps

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    @dr, thanks that was a great help, i have suggested your opinion, lets see what he does, would you recommend the 95 sx prado as a better deal than the surf?
    any more experts out there who can suggest?

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    A 2003 would be a better buy then any 96 !

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    brother the choice is yours but a 95 prado is an older generation vehicle as both prado and surf had a model change in late '95 as a '96 model.the engines might be the same as 1kz was introduced in late '94,but the suspension was totally changed in the newer model,so in my opinion the surf should be a better buy.
    p.s .comparative models of surf and prado are mechanically similar.

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    I will recommend 1996-1997 Surf SSR-G Intercooler attaching. Surf 1995 onwards is a 3rd Generation and there is no change till 2000-2001, only in Diesel the engine was chenged from 1KZ-TE to 1KD. From 2002-2003 the 4th Generation Surf was introduced.

    Some body should not be worried as of the model is old I mean 1996 to 1999-2000 as I said earlier there is no difference or change in between. For JDM models U just need to have vehicle with low mileage and in better condition. When I was looking for Surf few available in 13.50 to 14 lacs. But the condition was such that I even didn’t bothered to have a test drive & got one in 17 Lacs.

    I personally had a choice of Tiger, Vigo, Surf & Prado. I choosed Surf 1996 & 2nd time 1997. In between my 2 Surf's I also bought Prado 1997. But within 1 month I was fed up with Prado and bought again Surf. The reason for reverting back to Surf were as follows"

    1: Performance as compare to Prado
    2: Sports Ride
    3: Part Time 4X4
    4: Central Differential Lock
    5: Better Looks
    6: Better Fuel Consumption
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    @mudassirinamullah
    Go for Surf. Its a decent ride.

    @Voyager
    Welcome back Voyager, seeing u after a long time.
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    @Drmac, voyager, drmansoor,

    Thank you for your valuable contributions, it seems the 96 surf is an overall winner here.

    I just passed on your suggestions to my friend who mentioned that the surf he was planning on buying has been sold off, so he has to now look for another one if you gentleman know anyone in KHI who may have a decent 96 surf to offer please let me know as the ones in the showroom are quite highly priced in khi these days (they were 13.5 for an unreg a while ago and now going for 15+)

    I have also spoken to a number of PW dealers who do not have either one in stock or are way over budget. He is looking for a khi registered one (since reg ones are cheaper).

    Also can you or any dealer here advise me if a vehicle has been imported from Dubai as opposed to Japan, does it make a difference in terms of sale or resale, i have been told that dubai imported cars are relatively cheaper, any ideas why that is the case? Does it affect resale of the vehicle after using it for some time (i know a vehicle depreciates but this may go further down)

    Thank You

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    Registered ones ar enot cheaper,, it cost 70-80,000RS to get one registered, and usually the dealer will charge you extra for the registered car. If you get it registered you will have to pay 78000 plus wait for 6 months, I waited for my surf for close to a 8 month period, any way good luck, buy SURF it is a lot of a jeep for a reasonable price. Prices are very high these days as the elections are around the corner
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    so none of the Vigo's in pk have heater? (assuming all come from Thailand)?
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    @rashidyounus,

    Big bro, thats exactly what happened, the surf was sold to a landlord who im assuming is enjoying his ride at this very moment near the khi airport , all 7 seats would have come in handly at this time

    @Mikz, it sure is very dissapointing to learn that the Tigers dont have heaters, i certainly had my heart set on it, am not sure about the Vigo's, arent they locally assembled?

    No answers to the dubai imports yet, could someone experienced shed some light on the subject?

    Thanks

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    I'm not sure if the Indus vigo's are locally assembled or imported from Thailand. Just checked Indus Motors web page, they had the hilux listed under "Imported vehicles", but the page was not available. Maybe someone will shed light on it ..
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