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    Default How is Potohar off the road?

    Experts / IJC: I just wanted to know about the performance of Potohar off the road. Especially whether it has center of gravity issues owing to its high roof and short wheel-base. I would appreciate any other feedback as well. Looking forward to hearing from all the friends.
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    Suzuki SJ 410/Samurai

    This is an extremely capable offroader. However, it has the worst ride of any 4 wheeled vehicle ever made. Donkey carts have a better ride. Driving it on the highway is plain torture, for on every bump it bucks like a bronco. On bad roads where heavier vehicles can speed on, the Suzuki gets airborne on every bump and comes down with a bone jarring crash. Not recommended for people with bad backs anybody. Otherwise an excellent machine which can take as much a beating as it hands out to its occupants.

    Offroading Capability: 8 out of 10
    The 1 and 1.3 litre petrol engines are zippy, but underpowered in sand. Requires excessive use of the clutch.
    Suzuki Jimny

    This is the succesor to the Samurai, and remains an extremely capable offroader. It switches from leafsprings to coil springs, thus giving a decent ride. The engine is a peppy 1.3 aluminium EFI and has more 'go'. This is the perfect first entry into 4wheeling - highly recommended to all and sundry. Whenever anyone asks me what Jeep they should get, I point them to the Jimny. Suzuki is officially importing the Jimny, so all spare parts are readily available.

    Offroading Capability: 7 out of 10 for the auto, 8/10 for the manual.
    The Jimny has all the essentials: A ladder frame, low range transfer case and solid axles. Off-road, the Jimny holds its own against far more expensive rivals.
    Courtesy : Offroad Pakistan

    Other Resources
    http://www.suzuki-4wd.nl/
    http://www.billswebspace.com/ZukLinks.htm
    http://www.4x4mag.co.uk/febfeatures/magfeaturesj.html
    http://www.ciao.co.uk/Suzuki_Samurai__Review_5332502
    http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/featuredvehicles/131_0711_suzuki_samurai_vs_yamaha_rhino/index.html
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHRiWMvNjkc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1I0gidKZLY
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    @pinkpanther:

    Thanks a lot Shehzad Bhai for such a detailed reply. I would appreciate if you could also throw in a line about the center of gravity issue I've asked about in case of our Pakistani high-roof potohar. In the meanwhile, I'll check all the links you've kindly forwarded.
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    Suzuki potohar is the most capable offroader in mud, the center of gravity issue kicks in if you are trying to race it in a rally or something. It is only good for hardcore offroading dont think of it as a daily runner.
    To all the extreme drivers, please come offroad like ME to keep others safe on the roads.

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    Potohar is great. It won't let you down this thing will take a pounding like no other car. If it isn't on cng the centre of gravity does act a bit crazy on the road whilst turning at high speed.

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    In the last cholistan rally... 30-35 Suzuki Pothohars/Jimnyys were seen performing marvelously in desert.. their light weight being a big plus point.

    regarding CoG and stability on road.. treat it like a Jeep.. anything above 90Km/H on highway should raise alarms
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    the SJ/Samurai is to offroading what the levin/trueno is to drifting.
    1. A car is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, 2. Resale wont save your life in an accident, 3. Genius has limits, stupidity has none, 4. Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level & beat you with experience, 5. Growing old beats the alternative -- dying young! 6. انّا للہ و انّا الیہ راجعون

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    pothohar jeep is very good in sandy areas.....
    its performance is better than all the military vehicles when it come to sandy area.....
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    @aarish
    Dear you are 100% right!
    See Wiki pedia for proof!

    this jeep intend to over turn if you take a sharp turn in speed more then 30km/h lol

    To reduce this danger, replace it's orignal tyres by less size tyres/rims. while British Jimny with low/soft top roof is better then our SJ-410 (Pothohar) is!

    Even Maruti Gypsi (Indian, and often used by indian Police) is better then our Pothohar

    The things mentioned by pinkpanther are 90% right!
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    Thanks @ everybody:

    The kinds of responses that I exactly wanted.

    So the conclusion that I draw here is that the CoG won't be an issue unless driving at high speeds on highways (not off the road). There is a difference of opinion about the definition of 'high speed' for Potohar. Nobody doubts the machine's offroad capabilities, that's good to know.

    @akifjanjua:

    Thanks for the performance review of the car in last Cholistan rally.

    @Storm:

    Got your point sir (Y)

    @PrinceSultan:

    I fail to understand why didn't the Paksuzuki do away with its high roof 'til the last year of its manufacture. And that what's its benefit?
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    Potohar & Offroading
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    "treat it like a Jeep.. anything above 90Km/H on highway should raise alarms"

    @akifjanjua, it never goes over 90 kms / hour, for over 90 kms/hour, we ll have to drive it down the hill

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    bro it goes till 100 downhill on cng and on petrol it easily crosses 110, but the feeling is crazy

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    ....again it all depends on your needs and requirements and how much you can spend on it. Every production vehicle 4x4 is made after lot of research and development and it is designed for specific purposes and target specific users. I think Suzuki SJ410 is the best (optimum level) return of your cash.

    I had SJ410 twice once in 1995-97 (Assembled by Pak Suzuki Motors) and Later Suzuki Santana-SJ410 in 2000-2002 (assembled in England by Range Rover).

    Its a good vehicle for two persons (front seaters) bumpy for 4 persons and as well as underpowered when full loaded).... But for 2 persons it is one of the best of its class (you see how much you have paid for it and at low running expenses) it can go any where coz of its size.

    When MONEY maters then SUZUKI SJ410 is the best choice.

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    @ihaq:

    Thanks for the valuable feedback brother.
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    ok I will explain why the high roof is there, in Pakistan we put two seats in its back which serves two purposes 1. four people can be squeezed in the back 2. they can use the rear door to enter and exit.
    To all the extreme drivers, please come offroad like ME to keep others safe on the roads.

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    Pinkpanther is right. As far as offroading is concerned, Potohar is a good jeep, but its ride is too much uncomfortable. Daily ride of Potohar can cause serious problems. People give examples like " Kisi ko Khassi karna ho to us ko daily potohar main bhithaya Jai". :pSorry for this comment but it is a good example. With excuse from SJ410 and Potohar owners.
    If there would have been coil springs in it instead of leaf springs, it would be better. Replacing the flexible tyres is a good choice.

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    ITS WRONG

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    How about new Jimmy?
    as they say "smart in city, touth in nature!!!"

    How much $$$ for brand new one (from paksuzuki) and the 2005 model imported?
    Safety 1st!
    Always Must!

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    @Retarded mate, dude one has to have a heart of lion to push it to that 110 km/hour mark

    @prince sultan, new jimny is around 1.2 to 1.3 million now.

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