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    Default Lets design a SUV ourself

    I know it will sound like a joke to all of you so lets start it like a "Game". Looking at our neighbour India, I think why cant we design a nice SUV? Participation of all is requested please. Your input is required in keeping in view the usage in Pakistan:


    Initial questions would be:


    1. What size do you suggest?


    2. What engine size ?


    3. Diesel, petrol, CNG, LPG, Ethenol etc ?


    4.What features would you suggest in the vehicle?


    5. etc.etc.etc?
    To all the extreme drivers, please come offroad like ME to keep others safe on the roads.

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    ^^^ m smelling something nice cooking in ur backyard


    can u elaborate u are asking for the comercial production unit or a cocktail kinda thing
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    am damn sure this thread will be now fun thread
    work is healthy activity so leave it for sick people

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    if you ask about size my opinion would be an 8 seater and the price should be as low as possible so people could get rid of dumping extra passengers into a small car..
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    my dream SUV exists already in the form of the 2008 G55 AMG.

    make it something like that.
    1. A car is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, 2. Resale wont save your life in an accident, 3. Genius has limits, stupidity has none, 4. Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level & beat you with experience, 5. Growing old beats the alternative -- dying young! 6. انّا للہ و انّا الیہ راجعون

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    ^^^^ man we want to make a thing that everyone could afford..
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    This has been my passion since I was a kid, and I am not ready to die without even attempting it INSHALLAH.
    To all the extreme drivers, please come offroad like ME to keep others safe on the roads.

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    ^^^although i am in Ireland but I am ready to help you....
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    If built by an individual for personal use
    1. should be available in wagon form and 4x4
    2. must be turbo diesel for torque with an approx displacement of 2.5L and a 5 speed gearbox
    3. must have 3 rows of seats
    4. must be simple to repair anywhere in PK
    5. safety should not be an option, it should be built into the design from day 1. must have ABS, Aircon and at least an attempt to fit 2 airbags should be made
    6. a simple colour shoudl be chosen to reduce costs
    7. must use modern materials to ensure it is light and fuel efficient like fibreglass.
    8. time and effort should not be wasted on overstyling the vehicle, instead an emphasis should be put on functionality.


    if built by a local manufacturer
    1. should be available in wagon and pickup form as well as 2x4 and 4x4 models
    2. must be turbo diesel for torque with an approx displacement of 2.5L and a 5 speed gearbox
    3. must have 3 rows of seats
    4. must offer excellent value for money
    5. safety should not be an option, it should be built into the design from day 1. must have ABS, Aircon and at least 2 airbags as standard or it'll never get my vote.
    6. initially there should be few colour choices & options to limit costs.
    7. must use modern materials to ensure it is light and fuel efficient. (perhaps injection moulded pre-painted plastic body parts like the renault clio).
    8. time and effort should not be wasted on overstyling the vehicle, instead an emphasis should be put on functionality.
    1. A car is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, 2. Resale wont save your life in an accident, 3. Genius has limits, stupidity has none, 4. Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level & beat you with experience, 5. Growing old beats the alternative -- dying young! 6. انّا للہ و انّا الیہ راجعون

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    Let it be a 3 door SUV.
    The size should be same as of Prado Rx 1997.
    Well it should be 4000cc petrol.
    Should have climate control,navigation screen,volume controls on steering and a Digital meter.
    It should be RWD so it can be use for drifting.
    Must be equipped with Heated seats,Eps,8 Srs Airbags and ABS.
    Rear screen and side windows should be factory fitted glasses.
    Rims size should be 20".
    And Last but not the least it should have a Triptronic Transmission.

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    1. What size do you suggest?
    4 seater
    100 to 110 wheel base

    2. What engine size ?
    6cyl,
    m not good in recomending the engine

    3. Diesel, petrol, CNG, LPG, Ethenol etc ?
    definitely diesel

    4.What features would you suggest in the vehicle?
    part time 4x4
    portal axles
    diff locking

    5. etc.etc.etc?
    you find m in the project if it could be of 4x4 hardcore ride.
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    1. What size do you suggest?
    it should be a 5 seater, a 7 seater wud b turned into a wagon here lol

    2. What engine size ?
    6.0 L

    3. Diesel, petrol, CNG, LPG, Ethenol etc ?
    Petrol

    4.What features would you suggest in the vehicle?
    airbags
    indivisual suspension for every wheel
    Winch
    height control
    crawl control
    4x4
    and unlike most paki carz POWER WINDOWZ
    a good sound system
    alloy wheelz
    a defender type roof exhaust for extreme offroading purposes
    -go with the beat, rock the street

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    wow!!! I never expected such a warm welcome. Yes it is going to be for a mass production. If all of it is locally manufactured we can fit in every gadget and the price can still be dirt cheap. I remember when a local company in Pakistan was producing I C s for Japan enabling them to produce electronics. @all who are participating, every single suggestion you are giving is a "Gem".
    To all the extreme drivers, please come offroad like ME to keep others safe on the roads.

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    something with real 4X4 quality, aggressive but affordable...

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    i can help u guys in making of cheap and custom interior custom made dash board to all kind of plastic parts trims door panels. etc .,all r posiple here.
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    @hunnyahmed

    yaar kuch ziada nahi ho gaya.....
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    If i was to design a Offroader for myself i would first of all look in to the widely available chassis in market. Cj or Fj.


    Than i will rely on toyota parts like axles tubes,engine petrol or diesel, dash etc..


    As these parts are widely available in pak are reliable and wont cost that much too.


    The Key is making a offroader under million ruppees with the luxury and proformance of of a hilux atleast.


    The original panels of cj or fj should be fabricated and given a bit of modern touch.


    Hood, doors and top should be made from fiber glass. They are not that expensive after the mold has been made.


    Engine should be atleast 3 liters.


    Spring suspension.


    Atleast 5 door as bigger is better in pakistan.


    Luxury seats.


    Power steering, power windows, ac/heater and winch should be a must.


    I would stay aways from all the technical stuff as it would add to the cost and reliabilty would be at stakes as genuine is genuine. Not many mechanics understand all that stuff.
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    try to keep things simple as already mentioned.. not much of aerodynamics . 3 rows of seat and min of 2.5D engine.
    state of art technology, best control systems and other gimmicks should be consider as phase II

    start wid 8 passengers, 2.5D minimum, 4x4 capable, provision of collapsible steering, beams for side impact and roll over, ABS and air bags (2 at least ) should be consider as basic feature.

    last line: dis SUV should be for Pakistanis i.e. keeping in mind wat most of us like and can afford coming up wid a SUV of 25 lacs wont gonna do any good.

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    @Rusty
    No man they r basic things that r provided in several suvs except digital meter.

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    @ jeepaholic

    In my opinion instead of an suv we should be looking for a mini van sort of thing.....which will still be a suv shape but with a lighter engine and 4x4 as an option of choice,,,,,,
    so what are we planning here....
    get a chassis....used one or design new one..for which obviously we don't have any test bench here...
    grab different body parts of different make and type and and make cocktail...
    I think thats not a good idea.....

    we should be thinking on the lines as following....
    1. choose a popular and rugged chassis..which should be old enough to be cheap and fulfill the purpose of suv or mini van..for which cj or fj chassis are not suitable.....like older land cruiser jeeps, pajero ...etc
    2. hold a car design competition to tweak the body and specs to suite our requirements....winner should get the prize money and the honor of having his name on the designed body....
    3. get the required design patented and start mass production..

    rest every thing is going to cost money and time for the approval and road worthiness....I understand the procedure mentioned above is not simple and will require a lot of deliberation by all of us...but at least we will start to work in particular direction instead of wasting time......
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