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    Default Lets design a SUV ourself

    I know it will sound like a joke to all of you so lets start it like a "Game". Looking at our neighbour India, I think why cant we design a nice SUV? Participation of all is requested please. Your input is required in keeping in view the usage in Pakistan:


    Initial questions would be:


    1. What size do you suggest?


    2. What engine size ?


    3. Diesel, petrol, CNG, LPG, Ethenol etc ?


    4.What features would you suggest in the vehicle?


    5. etc.etc.etc?
    To all the extreme drivers, please come offroad like ME to keep others safe on the roads.

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    ^(Y)(Y)(Y)
    aisay logon ka yehi hal hota hai
    Tried tried twice .. but failed

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    Flzrulz


    mind you language Mr. be carefull before you start writing something you just wrote, i am very politely contributing what ever i can according to my knowledge and information, if it is not your interest don't go after it, any body can talk as long as it is not abusive and humilating, sorry to hear about your comments, doesn't seems like somebody has ever taught you basic manners of a conversation. I am not crticizing anybody it seems like people like you are getting a wrong message from my posts, one of them wants to break my house with this SUV, the other one is picking on my spellings and now you swearing at me, what do you think what you guys are? seems to me some frustrated souls.


    Fluzrulz you need to go back and read my last post again, i made a suggestion, that design a kit car first with some used parts and shell body from junkyard, this will polish up your skills and then you can go to design car. by the way what is your qualifictaion?


    Now a message for people like you who think they have so called skill level and billions of $ to set up a mass production car facility, why not you go and offer your services and skills to ADAM motors those great folks put together the first made in pakistan car but due to some technical and financial constraint that project couldn't take off as it was expected, If I had money and skill I would go and help to revive that dead project. I can also suggest a very good usage of those billions $ if someone have go and give it to President Zardari so he can stop begging all over the globe.


    I look forward to another chain of posts lashing at me. Thanks.

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    ^ but in your first post you said us SHIEKH CHILLI
    and saying things like this are called RACISM.
    Tried tried twice .. but failed

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    Look Mr. i wasn´t refering to any specific post of yours in this thread, But i´ve been analysing this thread from the begining untill last post,and been reading ur posts that contain only the criticism, and yes, like you said, i´m also thinking the same way in my mind, that it is...it is almost next to impossible doing this way, but still, i wanted to see the way the guys were doing all this, but didn´t post the comments like you, and everyone went against you, why? why would you make them go against you, if you feel like it´s impossible, then it´s completely your opinion, keep it to yourself, there is a saying in urdu ^^ TAIL DEKHO, TAIL KI DHAAR DEKHO^^^ so calm down buddy and analyse the thread and see where it goes to, and when the thread comes to an end, just put forward your feedback, and you can say whatever you want to! but don´t just make all of the members go against you because of the criticism that you have in your mind! I´m sorry if any of my comments offended you, i just wanted you to understand what i want to tell you, though you´re elder to me, i should be respecting you, but the way you responded to the thread was really not a way that could be appreciated. PEACE!
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    I am also sorry mr.abhatti
    BTW mein tou baas apko apki mistakes bata raha tha
    Tried tried twice .. but failed

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    Thos of you who have a project managment knowledge and background there is a term called SMART Goals


    S specific


    M measureable


    A Attainable


    R Realistic


    T Time Oriented


    During all my replies to this post I emphasis on Attainable and Realistic Goal.


    We as a nation in general and Pakwheeler group in whole should go to fix and fine tune the wheel which has already been invented instead of reinventing the wheel. Have fun.

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    ^
    Tried tried twice .. but failed

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    @abhatti please pray to Allah to give us the clear vision and you relax. We dont want to prove anything to you but to do good to our beloved motherland. Take care.
    To all the extreme drivers, please come offroad like ME to keep others safe on the roads.

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    1. What size do you suggest?


    Pickup truck type in Mid-size (like Pajero and Landcruiser short chasis). But with strong suspension, shocks and tyres for offroading (Y)


    2. What engine size ?


    Powerful but economical. It should be in 2.0 to 2.5 range.


    3. Diesel, petrol, CNG, LPG, Ethenol etc ?


    Diesel, diesel and diesel......by the way, where is "Bio Diesel"???:p


    4.What features would you suggest in the vehicle?


    Safety features like air bags and side collision bars. Anti-rollover bars and Powerful AC which should work during Extreem offroading!


    5. etc.etc.etc?


    You forget to mention the "price of SUV". SUV's prices are too high in Pakistan. Therefore your "designed" SUV should be less then 1.0 Million.


    Talking about "ADAM's" jeep, I remeber my cousine (lives in S.Punjab) had an american jeep. and Adam jeep is 70% copy of that American Jeep. Could you please tell me it's name? I forgot it!


    I hope you understand my point!
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    Always Must!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceSultan



    2. What engine size ?


    Powerful but economical. It should be in 2.0 to 2.5 range.


    Sir


    I think 2.0 0r 2.5 is an underpower engine may it be a diesel or a petrol. Such engines are economical in cruise mode only. In off-roading conditions the economical ones are those with more torque at low RPM like the one in Nissan Patrol (6 cyl) & Land Cruiser (1HDT) etc. Their average fuel consumtion is not much different from that of a 2LT or 2.5 diesel pajero when going off-road. What these engines can do at 1000 - 1200 rpm, a 2LT or a pajero's 2.5 cannot even imagine at 3000 rpm.
    *** Its a SATISFACTION thing. Only DIY guys will understand! ***
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    @Tareen


    Agree that 2.5 is underpower for mid-size SUV. However, my uncle has a Suzuki Jimny 1.3 petrol engine, and it works fine(Y) but it's a small jeep


    We don't expect ECONOMY offroad, I mean engine should be economic when we drive it on road, i.e. SUV should be acceptalbe for on road/urban use as well as offroad.


    Btw what average does Land Cruiser (1HDT) give on road (kms/liter)?


    (Jimny 1.3 gives 8-9kms/liter+AC on)
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    1HDT averages 8.5 km/litre @ 100km/h with AC and everything.
    Its been tried and tested again and again. Acceleration & torque again is exceptional considering the weight it carries. I have driven an FJ40 installed with IHDT for steep dune sprint. That thing would scare the hell out of any one with its acceleration and power.
    *** Its a SATISFACTION thing. Only DIY guys will understand! ***
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    Very constructive! please continue.
    To all the extreme drivers, please come offroad like ME to keep others safe on the roads.

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    @jeepaholic
    Sir Hw r U?
    tussi v te kuch input do na

    P.S: Thakur! ye bronco mujhe day dey
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    jeepaholic
    where do you live in PAKISTAN
    (now dont say I live in my house )
    Tried tried twice .. but failed

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    @tayyab95 I live in Rawalpindi(office in Islamabad) and at a farm house in a remote village in district Sargodha. Well that was a "truth or dare".
    To all the extreme drivers, please come offroad like ME to keep others safe on the roads.

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    ^^ X=
    Tried tried twice .. but failed

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    @tareen


    Gr8! Excellent fuel economy(Y)


    While Pajero mini (only 660cc) hardly cover 10kms in one liter


    1HD is 3.2 nonturbo diesel?


    @fihsak


    sir!


    eh input nai devan gey, eh tey tahadi feedback le k ghar wich (balkey farmhous wich) SUV bana raey ney, tey ik dum tahadey samney lea k tahanoo heraan tey pareshaan kr devan gey!!!




    Thakur! ye bronco mujhe day dey


    Naaaaaaahiiiiiiiiiii :p:p:p


    @Tayyab95


    He lives in Rawalpindi, office in Islamabad........ and some time he lives in Bronco lol
    Safety 1st!
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    @PrinceSultan

    1H is 4.2lit and as u know D & T stand for diesel & turbo simultaneously. This engine is replace by 1HZ in newer models.

    cheers
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    4.2 gives 8.5kms/liter.....That's amazing!(Y)(Y)(Y)


    btw any1 can explain, why Pajero min is WORST in fuel economy?


    (if 4.2 gives 8.5 kms, then 660cc must gives 15kms/liter)
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