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    I Like That Ferrari Logo ... Can Anybody Give me A link Of That Logo in big .. Coz I Want To Have It As My Next Wallpaper

    @paula .... I Jumed From Chair when i saw that yaaayyyyy kimii pleaseeeeeeeeeee Comeeeee backkkkkkk .....


    Okay Found that Logo ....if anyone wants it Big here it is

    Scuderia Ferrari 2011 Logo
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    Mercedes admits to step backwards
    Mercedes has admitted that its Valencia update actually resulted in a step backwards rather than an improvement.

    Yamamoto to replace Senna in Britain<!-- end title -->
    The Hispania team has dropped Bruno Senna for the British Grand Prix weekend, in a surprise move on the eve of the event.

    Schumacher would win in a Red Bull, says Ecclestone
    Bernie Ecclestone thinks that Michael Schumacher would still be winning races if he was driving a better car, such as a Red Bull, this season.

    Feeling Sorry for Bruno.
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    The new safety car rules

    Maybe It's Bruno's attitude. I suspect he would have one, given his surname. His Brawn option was the best, a water tight contract would have seen him have a race seat this year. Anyway, the millions he brings in sponsorship should get him a seat for next season.

    Horner: No favouritism in chassis choice
    Red Bull Racing boss Christian Horner has dismissed suggestions that the team's decision to give Mark Webber a chassis recently rejected by Sebastian Vettel is a sign of favouritism within the Milton Keynes outfit.
    I wonder how this guy runs a team. The favouriism is for all to see, but one would think they, Red Bull, would do anything they can to dispel that impression.
    This is what happens when F1 has teams that have no brand identification.


    ]Schumacher would win in a Red Bull, says Ecclestone
    Bernie Ecclestone thinks that Michael Schumacher would still be winning races if he was driving a better car, such as a Red Bull, this season.
    No kidding, Einstein!! More than half the grid would be winning in that Red Bull car

    Kubica would welcome Raikkonen eddie here is something for u to cheer ... but i think that will not be good for kubica... unless kimi shows no interest in team/car development ...
    Sorry, but Kubica will kill him in identical cars. That's not a team mate Raikkonen wants, if he is going to make a return to F1, which he is not.

    @m_waqas

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    wth??.. its just a logo -Formula 1  - Season 2010 - - icon10 ... so UK will it be yours too??..
    No, i got a different one


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    @UK
    What favouritism, you are talking about in RedBull. If Webber is getting Vettel's chasis then Vettel is also using Webber's chasis from Turkey. Just some more thing to note Webber have changed 3 chasis now while Vettel have only changed 1.

    I think in this era of cost cutting teams certainly can't afford to have many new chasis, so they have to repair some which are repairable and ditch those which are beyond repair just like Webber's at Valencia.

    My avatar is showing 2 McLarens, from the back both have Mika's name written on the rear wing, and those were the days when teams can have 3 cars present in the garage all the weekend. In those days McLaren can't afford to have enough spares for both drivers is just pure favouritism not in nowadays situation. I think at that time Ferrari also have the same level of spares for both drivers.
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    Red Bull team boss Christian Horner feels one incident is all it will take for the "love in" between Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button to fall apart.

    What's up with Horner? He's like a teenage girl with his continual cat scratch comments about McLaren. He and we would be better off if he would shut up and concentrate on his own team's problems.
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    @genius83

    I was not talking about this chassis incident. The general favoritism at Red Bull towards Vettel is obvious.

    Regarding the chassis and how many they have available or make, it's all a farce-what we are led to believe. Top teams carry enough parts to not make one but two cars at a GP if they so wish. The only difference today is that we don't see them having a T car in the garage. Where do you think spares came from to make Alonso's Ferrari at Monaco?

    Red Bull is just a drink. It's a small time brand, and fans have little or no association with it. Say if this was a car manufacturer, a team like Mclaren or Williams-they would stay away from passing one chassis to one driver and another to their other driver. Ferrari never had equal equipment when your friend was at the team The T car, normally would rotate between drivers from race to race. At Ferrari, it was pretty much always set for your friend with the odd exception of Brazil etc when Barrichello would be trying for a home win and his car would mysteriously die while leading the race

    And enough of this cost cutting stuff. Everything in the name of cost cutting, how much have they saved? What did it achieve? Red Bull has as much money as any of the front running big teams.

    Anyway, time was when Williams drivers were fighting for the title, and they arrived in Japan, with not one but two spare cars, one set up for each of their drivers. Yes, times were different, but Williams was never a team to spend too much money on anything. It's that kind of transparency that lacks.

    These teams, the front of the grid ones, go to each race even today with enough spares to make two cars. I believe they bring two extra engines too or maybe three and similar number of gear boxes too. Mclaren is not a team that ever saved money so i don't get this line you wrote;

    In those days McLaren can't afford to have enough spares for both drivers is just pure favouritism
    The picture you have seen must be from a GP in Europe. Firstly, because that's where Mclaren would write driver names on their cars because of a ban on tobacco livery. Secondly, it must have been a GP where it was Mika's turn to have the spare car, hence his name on it. No favoritism there.
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    now i know why ppl like ferrari, coz in ferrari u can do every thing change rules, get positions by penalised some one, FIA (Ferrari International Assistance).
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    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    Vettel quickest in first Britain practice<!-- end title -->
    Sebastian Vettel set the pace in the opening practice session ahead of this weekend's British Grand Prix.

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    Pos  Driver         Team                   Time              Laps
     1.  Vettel         Red Bull-Renault       1:32.280             22
     2.  Hamilton       McLaren-Mercedes       1:32.614  +  0.334   16
     3.  Kubica         Renault                1:32.725  +  0.445   21
     4.  Webber         Red Bull-Renault       1:32.747  +  0.467   23
     5.  Sutil          Force India-Mercedes   1:32.968  +  0.688   18
     6.  Rosberg        Mercedes               1:33.318  +  1.038   21
     7.  Hulkenberg     Williams-Cosworth      1:33.377  +  1.097   19
     8.  Button         McLaren-Mercedes       1:33.519  +  1.239   20
     9.  Schumacher     Mercedes               1:33.955  +  1.675   18
    10.  Barrichello    Williams-Cosworth      1:34.016  +  1.736   17
    11.  Buemi          Toro Rosso-Ferrari     1:34.132  +  1.852   21
    12.  Petrov         Renault                1:34.365  +  2.085   22
    13.  Alonso         Ferrari                1:34.490  +  2.210   20
    14.  di Resta       Force India-Mercedes   1:34.580  +  2.300   22
    15.  Kobayashi      Sauber-Ferrari         1:34.710  +  2.430   16
    16.  de la Rosa     Sauber-Ferrari         1:34.901  +  2.621   17
    17.  Massa          Ferrari                1:35.037  +  2.757   21
    18.  Alguersuari    Toro Rosso-Ferrari     1:35.318  +  3.038   27
    19.  Kovalainen     Lotus-Cosworth         1:36.747  +  4.467   16
    20.  Glock          Virgin-Cosworth        1:37.330  +  5.050   11
    21.  di Grassi      Virgin-Cosworth        1:37.518  +  5.238   15
    22.  Chandhok       HRT-Cosworth           1:38.735  +  6.455   21
    23.  Fauzy          Lotus-Cosworth         1:39.510  +  7.230   11
    24.  Yamamoto       HRT-Cosworth           1:39.673  +  7.393   27
    Ecclestone wants short-life tyres<!-- end title -->
    Formula 1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone thinks tyres should have an extremely limited life from next year in a bid to make the races more exciting.

    Rosberg not giving up on 2010 yet<!-- end title -->
    Nico Rosberg believes it is not too late for Mercedes to turn its season around, despite recording its poorest result since the German car maker returned to Formula 1 as a manufacturer at the recent European Grand Prix.

    Sutil says he is more mature now<!-- end title -->
    Adrian Sutil says he has been pleased with his performance so far this season, as he reckons he has matured as a driver.

    Trulli: Pirelli move will have big impact<!-- end title -->
    Jarno Trulli believes Pirelli's return to Formula 1 will have a big impact on the drivers because of the differences in the tyres the Italian manufacturer will use.

    Summerton trusts Cypher can succeed<!-- end title -->
    Jonathan Summerton is confident that the Cypher Group's plans to enter a United States-based team in Formula 1 can succeed where US F1's attempt failed.

    Massa says Ferrari must close gap soon<!-- end title -->
    Felipe Massa thinks Ferrari must start closing the gap on title rivals McLaren and Red Bull Racing in the next few races if the outfit it to have a realistic chance of winning the championship.

    Drivers to request changes to kerbs<!-- end title -->
    Formula 1 drivers are set to request changes are made to the high kerbs at the Maggotts/Becketts complex at Silverstone.
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    Webber keeps Red Bull on top in Britain<!-- end title -->
    Mark Webber set the fastest time of Friday's second free practice session ahead of this weekend's British Grand Prix.

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    Pos  Driver         Team                   Time              Laps
     1.  Webber         Red Bull-Renault       1:31.234            15
     2.  Alonso         Ferrari                1:31.626  + 0.392   26
     3.  Vettel         Red Bull-Renault       1:31.875  + 0.641   24
     4.  Massa          Ferrari                1:32.099  + 0.865   25
     5.  Rosberg        Mercedes               1:32.166  + 0.932   29
     6.  Schumacher     Mercedes               1:32.660  + 1.426   27
     7.  Petrov         Renault                1:32.745  + 1.511   28
     8.  Hamilton       McLaren-Mercedes       1:32.757  + 1.523   22
     9.  Sutil          Force India-Mercedes   1:32.787  + 1.553   27
    10.  Barrichello    Williams-Cosworth      1:32.967  + 1.733   32
    11.  Kubica         Renault                1:33.019  + 1.785   30
    12.  Hulkenberg     Williams-Cosworth      1:33.164  + 1.930   28
    13.  Button         McLaren-Mercedes       1:33.200  + 1.966   24
    14.  Kobayashi      Sauber-Ferrari         1:33.402  + 2.168   23
    15.  Liuzzi         Force India-Mercedes   1:33.728  + 2.494   27
    16.  Buemi          Toro Rosso-Ferrari     1:33.836  + 2.602   36
    17.  de la Rosa     Sauber-Ferrari         1:34.051  + 2.817   29
    18.  Alguersuari    Toro Rosso-Ferrari     1:34.643  + 3.409   36
    19.  Kovalainen     Lotus-Cosworth         1:35.465  + 4.231   25
    20.  di Grassi      Virgin-Cosworth        1:36.237  + 5.003   24
    21.  Glock          Virgin-Cosworth        1:36.553  + 5.319   21
    22.  Chandhok       HRT-Cosworth           1:37.019  + 5.785   27
    23.  Yamamoto       HRT-Cosworth           1:38.303  + 7.069   32
    24.  Trulli         Lotus-Cosworth         1:42.901  + 11.667  3
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    De la Rosa cautious on SC changes<!-- end title -->
    Pedro de la Rosa thinks revisions to Formula 1's safety car rules still need careful evaluation - despite a move by teams and the FIA to improve the situation after the controversy in Valencia.

    Senna will continue to race for HRT<!-- end title -->
    Bruno Senna remains one of HRT's drivers and will race in the remainder of the season, his team said on Friday, despite being dropped for the British Grand Prix.

    Schumacher happier with car updates<!-- end title -->
    Michael Schumacher is cautiously optimistic about the performance of his Mercedes car following Friday's practice for the British Grand Prix.

    Hamilton calm over McLaren updates<!-- end title -->
    Lewis Hamilton is staying calm about the performance of his McLaren team despite a difficult first day of work ahead of the British Grand Prix.

    Alonso wary of Red Bull's speed<!-- end title -->
    Fernando Alonso says his Ferrari team will need to improve its pace ahead of tomorrow's qualifying if it is to be close to Red Bull Racing.

    Liuzzi hindered again by top-speed issue<!-- end title -->
    Tonio Liuzzi is hopeful of a stronger performance on Saturday despite a problem with his car's top speed reappearing at Silverstone.

    Drivers not won over by new layout<!-- end title -->
    Formula 1 drivers have not been won over by the changes made to Silverstone - as Sebastian Vettel even likened running over the bumps to 'falling off a chair'.

    Williams to continue with new exhaust<!-- end title -->
    Williams will continue to run its blown diffuser for the full British Grand Prix weekend after being pleased with the new exhaust system's performance in Friday practice.

    Yamamoto to 'talk' things over with Senna<!-- end title -->
    Sakon Yamamoto says he wants to smooth things over with Bruno Senna after taking the Brazilian's place in the HRT team for the British Grand Prix in mysterious circumstances.

    McLaren ditches blown diffuser for now<!-- end title -->
    McLaren has abandoned its exhaust-blown diffuser for the rest of the British Grand Prix weekend, AUTOSPORT can reveal, after a difficult first day of running with the concept at Silverstone on Friday.
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    @UK
    I was not talking about this chassis incident. The general favoritism at Red Bull towards Vettel is obvious.

    Regarding the chassis and how many they have available or make, it's all a farce-what we are led to believe. Top teams carry enough parts to not make one but two cars at a GP if they so wish. The only difference today is that we don't see them having a T car in the garage. Where do you think spares came from to make Alonso's Ferrari at Monaco?
    Bro, Horner was talking about chasis and denying favouritism in that as was been thought by many fans all over the internet even on RedBull's own fan forum.

    As far as I know, all the teams carry 4 chasis, 6 engines(1 new and 2 old for each driver), 3 gearbox for each driver(2 new and 1 old), if the old has not complete its iteration otherwise 3 new gearboxes and enough spares to build all 4 cars and this is the equipment they carry for European races, for outside Europe they have 5 engines for each driver thatswhy last season in Japan BMW's one container was damage after the incident carrying engines and BMW have to clarify that those engines are safe and no damage has occurred to them.

    The thing is not about having these spares but the point is teams only are building stuff when they need it, so if RedBull was not prepare for a new chasis then it needs time to build and also one should take into account that may be they are building the new chasis with some upgrades that are not available on the current chasis at the moment.

    Just like in Bahrain, RedBull's chasis #1 and #2 were heavy and when RedBull brings chasis #3 and #4 they are lighter in weight as compare to the previous 2, so may be the new chasis will be even lighter if its possible.

    As for my point about McLaren, I was saying about the rear wing and monocoque which should have Coulthard's name on it instead of Mika. Although you made it clear what could be the possible reason but I still think they should have change the rear wing because in 2001 rear wings are detachable from the chasis, and if McLaren have enough spares to build a new car then they certainly have a new rear wing for David too.

    I could understand if an incident happens after the race start which makes the race to stop and restart for the full distance and the drivers whose cars are damaged in that incident are allowed to restart in the spare cars then the teams have no time to make any changes on the spare car and the drivers have to use the car as it is.

    That pic was from French GP 2001, and there was no restart during the race which means David have started the race in the spare car and if McLaren has enough spare to build the new car then they should atleast have a new rear wing with David's name too, which they don't have and that is favouritism for me, may be not for you.

    In Ferrari, during the Michal years the team certainly have favoured Michal but they never give equipment named for Michal to either Eddie or Rubens, that certainly is favouritism but off that kind where integrity of the driver remains intact.

    What you think about McLaren's updates especially the blown diffuser, which is the biggest part of that update, looks like McLaren has score an own goal, on a track which needs more time for making a perfect setup for the race they have lost 3 hours gathering data for the upgrades which then they dropped for the race, Now they have only 1 hour before qualifying to make a perfect setup.

    @m_waqas
    Looks like you miss the first practice-Formula 1  - Season 2010 - - icon8 but have watch the second practice so here is a consolation gift for you,
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    Vettel leads the way in final practice<!-- end title -->
    Red Bull will go into British Grand Prix qualifying in excellent form having topped final practice at Silverstone in addition to leading both Friday sessions.

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    British GP Practice Session 3
    Pos  Driver         Team                    Time              Laps
     1.  Vettel         Red Bull-Renault        1:30.958            14
     2.  Webber         Red Bull-Renault        1:30.992  + 0.034   15
     3.  Alonso         Ferrari                 1:31.101  + 0.143   10
     4.  Rosberg        Mercedes                1:31.188  + 0.230   15
     5.  Massa          Ferrari                 1:31.240  + 0.282   16
     6.  Kubica         Renault                 1:31.519  + 0.561   18
     7.  Hamilton       McLaren-Mercedes        1:31.549  + 0.591   16
     8.  Schumacher     Mercedes                1:31.555  + 0.597   14
     9.  de la Rosa     Sauber-Ferrari          1:31.559  + 0.601   18
    10.  Barrichello    Williams-Cosworth       1:31.581  + 0.623   16
    11.  Petrov         Renault                 1:31.698  + 0.740   17
    12.  Button         McLaren-Mercedes        1:31.703  + 0.745   16
    13.  Hulkenberg     Williams-Cosworth       1:31.867  + 0.909   17
    14.  Kobayashi      Sauber-Ferrari          1:31.947  + 0.989   16
    15.  Sutil          Force India-Mercedes    1:31.994  + 1.036   13
    16.  Buemi          Toro Rosso-Ferrari      1:32.235  + 1.277   18
    17.  Alguersuari    Toro Rosso-Ferrari      1:32.331  + 1.373   20
    18.  Liuzzi         Force India-Mercedes    1:32.723  + 1.765   18
    19.  Kovalainen     Lotus-Cosworth          1:34.339  + 3.381   20
    20.  di Grassi      Virgin-Cosworth         1:35.479  + 4.521   17
    21.  Trulli         Lotus-Cosworth          1:36.098  + 5.140   11
    22.  Chandhok       HRT-Cosworth            1:36.286  + 5.328   16
    23.  Glock          Virgin-Cosworth         1:36.640  + 5.682    6
    24.  Yamamoto       HRT-Cosworth            1:37.178  + 6.220   18
    GP Prep waiting on FOTA green light<!-- end title -->
    Anthony Hamilton says his GP Prep scheme is a must for the future of Formula 1 and for drivers willing to get into the sport.

    Alonso pleased with safety car change<!-- end title -->
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    McLaren puts in huge late-night effort<!-- end title -->
    McLaren has spared no effort to try and ensure Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button can still fight for victory in the British Grand Prix, with a late-night simulator session for its test driver Gary Paffett, after being forced to abandon its exhaust-blown diffuser upgrade.

    Hamilton Sr. fired up to help youngsters<!-- end title -->
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    Vettel on pole as Red Bull crushes rivals<!-- end title -->
    Red Bull continued its domination of the British Grand Prix weekend as Sebastian Vettel led Mark Webber in a seemingly easy front row sweep.

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    Pos  Driver         Team                   Q1        Q2        Q3       
     1.  Vettel         Red Bull-Renault       1:30.841  1:30.480  1:29.615
     2.  Webber         Red Bull-Renault       1:30.858  1:30.114  1:29.758
     3.  Alonso         Ferrari                1:30.997  1:30.700  1:30.426
     4.  Hamilton       McLaren-Mercedes       1:31.297  1:31.118  1:30.556
     5.  Rosberg        Mercedes               1:31.626  1:31.085  1:30.625
     6.  Kubica         Renault                1:31.680  1:31.344  1:31.040
     7.  Massa          Ferrari                1:31.313  1:31.010  1:31.172
     8.  Barrichello    Williams-Cosworth      1:31.424  1:31.126  1:31.175
     9.  de la Rosa     Sauber-Ferrari         1:31.533  1:31.327  1:31.274
    10.  Schumacher     Mercedes               1:32.058  1:31.022  1:31.430
    11.  Sutil          Force India-Mercedes   1:31.109  1:31.399
    12.  Kobayashi      Sauber-Ferrari         1:31.851  1:31.421
    13.  Hulkenberg     Williams-Cosworth      1:32.144  1:31.635
    14.  Button         McLaren-Mercedes       1:31.435  1:31.699
    15.  Liuzzi         Force India-Mercedes   1:32.226  1:31.708
    16.  Petrov         Renault                1:31.638  1:31.796
    17.  Buemi          Toro Rosso-Ferrari     1:31.901  1:32.012
    18.  Alguersuari    Toro Rosso-Ferrari     1:32.430
    19.  Kovalainen     Lotus-Cosworth         1:34.405
    20.  Glock          Virgin-Cosworth        1:34.775
    21.  Trulli         Lotus-Cosworth         1:34.864
    22.  di Grassi      Virgin-Cosworth        1:35.212
    23.  Chandhok       HRT-Cosworth           1:36.576
    24.  Yamamoto       HRT-Cosworth           1:36.968
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    Jenson Button is convinced that his McLaren developed a problem before Silverstone qualifying, having been baffled to find himself only 14th on the grid.

    Webber unhappy with wing situation<!-- end title -->
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    Sebastian Vettel said securing pole position for the British Grand Prix was not as easy as it looked after Red Bull continued to dominate the weekend.

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    Fernando Alonso is aiming to capitalise on his strong starting position in tomorrow's British Grand Prix to put the disappointment of the two previous races behind him.

    Elated Hamilton hails 'best ever lap'<!-- end title -->
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    Horner was talking about chasis and denying favouritism in that as was been thought by many fans all over the internet even on RedBull's own fan forum.
    Horner says many things, how many do you believe?

    They could have given Webber a different chassis just to avoid all these people talking, Again, with a big brand, a big manufacturer-that's exactly what would have happened. They should stay away from any controversy which they can possibly avoid.

    so if RedBull was not prepare for a new chasis then it needs time to build and also one should take into account that may be they are building the new chasis with some upgrades that are not available on the current chasis at the moment.
    Everyone, including me is reading too much into it, but making a new chassis is that expensive and that complicated a job which cannot be done in two weeks? Or is it Red Bull, who are secretly like HRT, no money so they make do with what they can. Anyway doesn't matter. Giving Webber the chassis used by Vettel, which he named whatever, on the lines of being his girl, does that mean Webber is actually ............. Vettel's girlfriend?


    I could understand if an incident happens after the race start which makes the race to stop and restart for the full distance and the drivers whose cars are damaged in that incident are allowed to restart in the spare cars then the teams have no time to make any changes on the spare car and the drivers have to use the car as it is.
    Exactly my point. They carry so much stuff as pointed out by you. The only thing they don't do is assemble a car and park it in the garage so as to give the cost cutting impression.
    Now if ( your )Vettel goes into the last race a few points ahead or behind another driver and is involved in a crash at the start. Red flag, a re-start and he can't take part in the race because every team is " pretending " to be cutting costs. How'd you feel if he lost the championship that way?


    Mclaren have scored an own goal for this race at least. They have heating issues with the blown diffuser but it's something they had to try. No in-season testing, again cost cutting, means there is no other place to try it. They need it to work because even without it, Hamilton is almost in touching distance to Alonso's Ferrari. With it, they will most certianly be infront. For now they are on the back foot.

    Vettel denied that the team had shown favouritism towards him in the allocation of the wing - and said the difference between the two specs was not that big.
    Yeah and he added that the difference was so small that he had been laughing at why his team spent so much money and R&D on this wing. Further that, he would actually give the wing to Webber for tomorrow's race
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    Exactly my point. They carry so much stuff as pointed out by you. The only thing they don't do is assemble a car and park it in the garage so as to give the cost cutting impression.
    Now if ( your )Vettel goes into the last race a few points ahead or behind another driver and is involved in a crash at the start. Red flag, a re-start and he can't take part in the race because every team is " pretending " to be cutting costs. How'd you feel if he lost the championship that way?
    Bro, you have divert my point, I was not talking about nowadays but about the Mika/Coulthard incident. As for the scenario, nowadays it is not possible to have a spare car for the restart, remember Luca was moaning for spare car in Monaco because Alonso was not able to take part in qualifying after his practice session 3 crash, so if what you suggested to happens in the last race to Vettel he would retires from the race and see the championship going to some one else as restarting in the spare car is not allowed in the season regulations.

    Please tell me, from where would they bring a new chasis, they have build only 4 chasis until now, and Webber have crashed his chasis in Valencia, already has ditched one chasis previously after Bahrain, so which chasis you want him to use. They don't have a new chasis at the moment.
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    Red Bull defends front wing decision<!-- end title -->
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    Bro, you have divert my point, I was not talking about nowadays but about the Mika/Coulthard incident.
    2001 was a long time ago. I don't remember exactly what happened which lead to this situation. It might have been free practice or something. Can't imagine it was the race. Some times a driver needed to get in the T car so late that it didn't allow teams to even alter small things. The name on Mclaren used to be on the rear wing and on the sides too, like HRT has these days. You have to look into the race highlights to see if this was done during the GP.

    Luca was moaning for spare car in Monaco because Alonso was not able to take part in qualifying after his practice session 3 crash, so if what you suggested to happens in the last race to Vettel he would retires from the race and see the championship going to some one
    Sir, LDM was making sense for a change. It's a ridiculous rule. No one, at least the big teams are not cutting costs but going along with the facade.
    It would be the most cruel and unfair way to lose a title, be it anybody, even Vettel. Even Vettel does not deserve that i think

    Please tell me, from where would they bring a new chasis, they have build only 4 chasis until now, and Webber have crashed his chasis in Valencia, already has ditched one chasis previously after Bahrain, so which chasis you want him to use. They don't have a new chasis at the moment.
    The point i am trying to make is different. As for where they would bring another chassis from, how about hardly a 30 minutes drive from Silverstone, there is a factory that makes these things No, on a serious note i don't care much about which chassis was switched around as long as it's working. It's just a little hard to believe Red Bull these days, that's all.

    The point i am trying to make is-that something like this will not happen with a team that has brand recognition. If two of their drivers had an incident like Red Bull drivers did in Turkey, that team would do all it can to do things in a very transparent manner and avoid any unnecessary complications.

    A little question about this wing issue. There were two front wings, right? So, Vettel's new front wing came off this morning and he was given the second wing. Does that mean Webber was driving without the new wing all along? Because if one of those new wings was on Webber's car then he would still have it now, won't he?

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    Never mind, i just read a piece about it. So, Red Bull took the wing off Webber's car and gave it to Vettel!! LOL, okay no favoritism going on there at all, none what so ever. Yes, it's a none issue and it should shut up every one who talk of any favoritism within the team

    Vettel most probably bends over for Horner and Marko to get " special " treatment on and off the track.
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    Red Bull wing controversy


    The F1 paddock is abuzz this evening after Red Bull team principal Christian Horner took the decision to take the new front wing off Mark Webber’s car and give it to Sebastian Vettel for qualifying. It has triggered a new row about favouritism, which first reared its head after the pair collided in Istanbul.



    -Formula 1  - Season 2010 - -102818

    The difference between the two wings is quite clear, as you can see from these two pictures. The older one (pictured above on Webber’s car in the garage tonight) has a single vane on the outer end plate, the new one (below) has a double.


    -Formula 1  - Season 2010 - -102819

    Another difference is a double vent in the side of the new wing, as opposed to a single vent on the one on Webber’s car. Webber said this evening that the team is still evaluating wings and felt that the new one was probably worth “about a tenth”. These things tend to be the product of many hours in the wind tunnel and significant investment. As as the airflow over the rest of the car is dictated by what comes off the front wing, it is quite a significant change.

    Horner said this evening that they had to run the wing because Adrian Newey was very keen to use it.

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    -Formula 1  - Season 2010 - -102818 -Formula 1  - Season 2010 - -102819
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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