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    F1 Fans!!!!
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    World Championships Standings after (Season Finale) Brazilian GP
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    World Championships Standings
    Drivers:                    Constructors:             
     1.  Vettel       392        1.  Red Bull-Renault          650
     2.  Button       270        2.  McLaren-Mercedes          497
     3.  Webber       258        3.  Ferrari                   375
     4.  Alonso       257        4.  Mercedes                  165
     5.  Hamilton     227        5.  Renault                    73
     6.  Massa        118        6.  Force India-Mercedes       69
     7.  Rosberg       89        7.  Sauber-Ferrari             44
     8.  Schumacher    76        8.  Toro Rosso-Ferrari         41
     9.  Sutil         42        9.  Williams-Cosworth           5
    10.  Petrov        37       
    11.  Heidfeld      34       
    12.  Kobayashi     30       
    13.  Di Resta      27       
    14.  Alguersuari   26       
    15.  Buemi         15       
    16.  Perez         14       
    17.  Barrichello    4       
    18.  Senna          2       
    19.  Maldonado      1        
    F1 2011 World Driver's Champion
    Sebastian Vettel
    -Formula 1 - Season 2011 -309864

    This Image was posted by @Born2Race with request that it should be posted in the first post after Japanese GP when Vettel secures the title, I promised that it will be at the end of Season on the first post. So here it is fulfilling my promise.

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    Belated Happy Birthday Robert Kubica Yesterday was his birthday
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    Where does all this leave Robert Kubica? Ever since his accident, I have been of the opinion that he will never drive a formula 1 car again. With the Renault door closed now, will he start testing a 2008 spec Ferrari during the season as the team evaluate him before he donn's the famous red overalls for 2013

    Renault/Lotus, two drivers who have no experience of the new F1, Raikkonen hardly known for his leadership qualities or ability to develop a car. Where will they go with their all new driver pairing.

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    I think you wanted these two articles, unless Steve sent you the link through PM.
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    How Ferrari still beats Red Bull in the prize stakes

    Red Bull may have dominated on the racetrack for the past two seasons, but it is still Ferrari that is bringing in the money. Jonathan Noble investigates F1's prize money to assess the sport's financial winners and losers.

    As the Formula 1 teams packed up for the last time in 2011 at Interlagos on Sunday night, you could have been forgiven for thinking that in the super rich world of grand prix racing, it would be back-to-back title winners Red Bull Racing that would be walking out of the paddock as the highest paid team on the grid.


    After all, its record over the past two seasons is unmatched – and no rival outfit can come anywhere close to boasting about its run of results.
    -Formula 1 - Season 2011 - 1322657805 Red Bull has secured both drivers' championships, both constructors' championships – as well as winning 23 of the last 40 races, and 13 of the last 20. It has also been on the podium at every race this season, apart from Abu Dhabi.


    Yet, despite all that success, thanks to the quirky nature of F1's top secret prize money fund, it is not Red Bull that comes out on top – and not even McLaren that has been its closest challenger this year. Instead, it is again Ferrari that – despite winning just one race this year and finishing third in the constructors' championship – heads into the winter happy in the knowledge that it will take the biggest slice of income among the teams.


    Historically the way the prize fund is worked out in F1 has been a closely guarded secret, with teams and Bernie Ecclestone never publicly revealing any details about how the distribution figures work.


    After some extensive research among paddock sources however, a glance of documents distributed among teams detailing earnings, and a few nods and winks here and there, a clearer picture has emerged about just how the money is divided up.


    Estimating the earnings
    Of course, without full access to prize money documents, the Concorde Agreement or the contracts that Ecclestone has regarding the full income of the sport, it is impossible to give a definitive answer on the exact prize money figures.


    We are however able to calculate the trends and estimate figures based on previous confirmed earnings, so we at least have our best glimpse yet on how the structure works.


    According to documents in the public domain, F1's total income in 2010 was around $1 billion – with a total of $658 million going to the teams as their prize fund. With income growing each year, amid informed estimates of five per cent growth, then we can roughly work out that income to the teams in 2011 should be around $691m.



    The definitive figure will only become clear when the yearly accounts of Formula One Management are lodged at Companies House before the end of the next financial year – so the final figures could be much lower, or even higher still, but the balance or earnings between teams will at least remain the same.


    So how do Ferrari walk away with the highest figure then?
    The key to Ferrari's financial bonus is the fact that it remains F1's most important team – and its 'unrivalled' historical contribution, consistent presence and strength of the brand means that once the teams' pool of prize money is in place, Maranello gets it hands on the first 2.5% of the prize money fund.


    So Ferrari's initial bonus from an estimated $691m will be $17.3m, before it also gets more of what are known as 'Category B' entitlements based on world title winning success – which amount to another $16m.



    Before Ferrari even turned a wheel in 2011 then, it began with a starting fund that based on our estimates could be as high as $33.3m.


    With that in place, Ferrari's third place finish in the constructors' championship further bolsters its income – with teams getting two separate payments if they finish in the top ten of the constructors' championship.


    The two types of payment, split into categories called Column 1 and Column 2, are divided equally 50/50 based on the remaining fund once initial payments for the 'Category B' title-winning teams (Ferrari, Red Bull Racing, McLaren, Mercedes, Renault, Williams) plus the new team bonus of $10m each that goes to Virgin Racing and HRT have been taken out.


    <table class="pictable" style="margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 10px;" width="275" align="left" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td>-Formula 1 - Season 2011 - 1322657872 Ferrari's presence in the F1 paddock provides a source of credibility to the field © Sutton-images
    </td></tr></tbody></table> Column 1 payments are shared equally among the top ten teams (so 10 per cent each), and you qualify for this entitlement if you finish in the top ten of the constructors' championship for two of the previous three years.
    Calculating the payment based on the projected income for 2011, this payment should be worth around $31m to each of the ten teams.
    Then there are Column 2 payments, which are distributed on a performance basis to any team that finishes in the top ten of the championship in the previous year.



    According to documents, the distribution currently works out in a percentage split like this: 1st = 19%, 2nd = 16%, 3rd =13%, 4th = 11%, 5th = 10%, 6th = 9%, 7th= 7%, 8th= 6%, 9th = 5% and 10th = 4%.


    So Ferrari's third-placed finish in the constructors' championship was worth 13 per cent of our estimated $310m prize fund – which works out at $40.3m
    In total, it means that Ferrari's revenue from 2011 should come in at around $104.6 million – which is the $33.25m Category B 'historic' payment, the $31m Column 1 payment and the $40.3m Column 2 prize fund.



    Ferrari's total is in excess of that which McLaren and Red Bull – ahead of it in the constructors' championship – took in.


    Using the same calculations of the funds that were used for Ferrari, based on historical precedents, we can estimate McLaren's income to be from Column 1 ($31m), Category B ($4.2m) and Column 2 ($49.6m) to be about $84.8m
    For Red Bull Racing, its Column 1 ($31m), Category B ($3.2) and Column 2 ($58.9) payments mean it should take home around $93.1m.


    Why Red Bull is not unhappy

    After the season that Red Bull has had, the team could have every right to feel that it is unfair that it does all the winning and Ferrari gets about $10m more of the spoils. However, there is very much a pragmatic approach among its rivals about the extra money Ferrari gets – because every team on the grid recognises the value of having the Prancing Horse there.



    That magical 2.5% bonus, which it is understood is a key stipulation from all teams that must remain in the next Concorde Agreement, may well help Ferrari's bottom line first of all.


    Having the Maranello team around is also good for F1 as a whole - and invariably boosts the overall income of the sport, which in turns helps increase the coffers of everyone out there. Red Bull Racing Christian Horner told AUTOSPORT in Brazil last weekend that there were no complaints about Ferrari's privileged financial position.
    "It is better that Ferrari are here, than not," explained Horner. "Ferrari and F1 are synonymous and, for us, the prestige of winning in F1 with Ferrari in it is immeasurably higher than if they were not.


    "They are historically the most significant team and it is understandable why their commercial terms are slightly different to the others."


    When asked if there was not some frustration at seeing a rival team enjoying a better financial position, Horner said: "I think that obviously they have a good deal, but that is the way it is.



    "We have managed to beat them for the last three years so I don't see it as a problem. You have to recognise and be respectful of the Ferrari brand and the Ferrari heritage, and we would far rather race in a championship with them – and it is great prestige to beat a team like Ferrari."


    More winners and losers

    The way the prize fund works means that even further down the grid the end of season constructors' championship positions are absolutely vital. And looking at the winners and losers of the year, there are a few other interesting snippets.


    Using the same calculations as above, Force India's successful season, in moving up from seventh to sixth position, netted it an estimated extra $6.2 million in prize money.
    Williams was the only team that slipped down the order between 2010 and 2011, and its drop from sixth to ninth is the difference in Column 2 prize money of £12.4m.


    <table class="pictable" width="275" align="right" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td>-Formula 1 - Season 2011 - 1322657940 Williams's poor performance in 2011 could have cost it as much as £12m © LAT
    </td></tr></tbody></table> Yet the biggest winner year-on-year was Team Lotus, which finally moved into the big league. Its 10th place finish in the constructors' championship meant the team to be known as Caterham F1 from next year added the $31 million bonus for becoming a Column 1 team, to its predicted $12.4m 10th place Column 2 money.


    It was no wonder that on race morning in Brazil team principal Tony Fernandes expressed his eagerness for the event to be over, and said it was 'critical' that the team brought home the result to get itself that tenth place.


    As Fernandes left the paddock on Sunday night, he was probably even happier than Ferrari...
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleKracker View Post
    How Ferrari still beats Red Bull in the prize stakes
    great article.. but as expected, its all due to Ferrari's heritage as a brand,.. though just 2.5% isn't that much ,..

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleKracker View Post
    Where does all this leave Robert Kubica? Ever since his accident, I have been of the opinion that he will never drive a formula 1 car again. With the Renault door closed now, will he start testing a 2008 spec Ferrari during the season as the team evaluate him before he donn's the famous red overalls for 2013

    Renault/Lotus, two drivers who have no experience of the new F1, Raikkonen hardly known for his leadership qualities or ability to develop a car. Where will they go with their all new driver pairing.
    Re Kubica: u still think thats gonna happen? Ferrari would hire him? that soon in 2013? don't think so, unless u've read something about it.

    Re Kimi: u're right,. but what i would like to see is him driving F1 car to its full potential,. i know he won't be interested in car building or building team around himself, he won't care..

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackeye117 View Post
    Belated Happy Birthday Robert Kubica Yesterday was his birthday
    Happy belated birthday,..

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    We rate the drivers after Brazil

    Brazil provided one last chance for the drivers to shine in 2011 - and for some that opportunity was all important with not all teams having secured their line-ups for next season. Edd Straw runs the rule over the performances from each man in the season finale

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    We rate the drivers after Brazil -Formula 1 - Season 2011 - space
    Brazil provided one last chance for the drivers to shine in 2011 - and for some that opportunity was all important with not all teams having secured their line-ups for next season. Edd Straw runs the rule over the performances from each man in the season finale -Formula 1 - Season 2011 - space
    <table width="583" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="3"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign="middle" width="463">1. Sebastian Vettel</td> <td width="60" align="center">9/10</td> <td width="60" align="center">-Formula 1 - Season 2011 - VETTEL HELMET</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-bottom: 10px;" colspan="3"> Started: 1st Finished: 2nd
    Strategy: 3 stops (option-option-option-prime)

    Showed his usual ruthless approach to a grand prix weekend on his way to taking a record-smashing 15th pole position of the season, and looked a dead-cert to convert that into a win when he led early on.

    He pulled away rapidly to establish a handy lead, but soon had to start short-shifting because of a loss of oil in the gearbox.

    While his 'box retained full functionality, Red Bull needed to manage the temperature and as the oil pressure dropped, it became clear it would be touch-and-go to make the finish.
    Like the great driver he is, Vettel adapted and was still able to lap fast enough to keep Jenson Button and Fernando Alonso at bay.

    Verdict: Did a great job to manage his gearbox problem and deservedly ended the season standing on the podium.
    </td></tr> <tr> <td valign="middle" width="463">2. Mark Webber</td> <td width="60" align="center">9/10</td> <td width="60" align="center">-Formula 1 - Season 2011 - WEBBER HELMET</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-bottom: 10px;" colspan="3"> Started: 2nd Finished: 1st
    Strategy: 3 stops (option-option-option-prime)

    Practice pace suggested that Webber had his best chance of breaking his 2011 victory duck, although he came a tenth or so short of denying Vettel pole position on Saturday afternoon.

    A typical bad getaway seemed to end any hope, but he was able to hold off the McLarens and Alonso at the first corner to run second while Vettel started to pull away.

    When the other Red Bull had to ease off, Webber moved into the lead and, from there, didn't put a foot wrong.

    Verdict: Needed Vettel's problem to take the lead, but turned in an error-free drive and was well out of reach of McLaren and Ferrari.
    </td></tr> <tr> <td valign="middle" width="463">3. Lewis Hamilton</td> <td width="60" align="center">7/10</td> <td width="60" align="center">-Formula 1 - Season 2011 - HAMILTON HELMET</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-bottom: 10px;" colspan="3"> Started: 4th Retired: gearbox
    Strategy: 3 stops (option-option-option-prime)

    Admitted that he didn't manage to get the best out of the car in qualifying, ending up two tenths behind Button.

    Played it cautiously on the brakes into the first corner and ran fourth on the first lap. He hung with Button and Alonso early on, but gearbox maladies started to manifest themselves.

    Slow shifts eventually turned to the loss of gears, then he was forced to drop out with a 'box full of neutrals before the scrap that he was having with Felipe Massa was able to reach its conclusion.

    Admitted post-race that he was not unhappy to see the end of the 2011 season.
    Verdict: Quiet start to the race, then battled gearbox problems well before having to give up the fight.
    </td></tr> <tr> <td valign="middle" width="463">4. Jenson Button</td> <td width="60" align="center">8/10</td> <td width="60" align="center">-Formula 1 - Season 2011 - BUTTON HELMET</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-bottom: 10px;" colspan="3"> Started: 3rd Finished: 3rd
    Strategy: 3 stops (option-option-prime-prime)

    Was disappointed that his McLaren didn't have the pace to mount a more credible challenge to Red Bull during qualifying, and you got the feeling that he was resigned to a fight for second at best come Sunday afternoon.

    Held position at the start, but came under pressure from Alonso as the first stint went on and had to give best to him when he came around the outside into Ferradura, Button blaming caution over Michael Schumacher's tyre debris for what happened.

    Struggled on soft tyres and found pace easier to come by on the primes and ran two stints on them. This meant that he was quick in the second half of the race and was able to repass Alonso to take third.


    Verdict: Outqualified Hamilton and achieved what was likely the best result possible for a McLaren.
    </td></tr> <tr> <td valign="middle" width="463">5. Fernando Alonso</td> <td width="60" align="center">9/10</td> <td width="60" align="center">-Formula 1 - Season 2011 - ALONSO HELMET</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-bottom: 10px;" colspan="3"> Started: 5th Finished: 4th
    Strategy: 3 stops (option-option-option-prime)

    Was pretty happy at the prospect of bidding farewell to the 2011 season and wasn't surprised when he qualified fifth, his traditional starting position during the course of the season.

    As ever, the pace of the Ferrari in race conditions was much stronger and he was able to take the fight to the McLarens.

    Pulled an inspired move to overtake Button during the first stint on the outside into Ferradura, although the 2009 world champion paid him back later in the race with a textbook DRS move to retake third.

    Verdict: As ever in 2011, Alonso dragged unbelievable pace out of the Ferrari to hassle the McLarens. Without the DRS, might just have held third.
    </td></tr> <tr> <td valign="middle" width="463">6. Felipe Massa</td> <td width="60" align="center">6/10</td> <td width="60" align="center">-Formula 1 - Season 2011 - MASSA HELMET</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-bottom: 10px;" colspan="3"> Started: 7th Finished: 5th
    Strategy: 2 stops (option-option-prime)

    Was upbeat heading into qualifying, when to no-one's great surprise he was around half a second off Alonso. Blamed understeer and front-wheel lock-ups for his struggles, which left him behind Nico Rosberg.

    Passed the Mercedes at the start and settled into his customary sixth place.
    Opted for a two-stopper because he had suffered a puncture on one option set during qualifying, although the timing of his visits to the pits seemed to be dictated by which Red Bull or McLaren drivers he could get in the way of.

    Fortunately he still had the pace to stay ahead of Adrian Sutil, even though by the end of the race he was way behind Alonso.

    Verdict: Finished only one place behind his team-mate, but was on a different planet in terms of speed. An adequate drive at best.
    </td></tr> <tr> <td valign="middle" width="463">7. Michael Schumacher</td> <td width="60" align="center">7/10</td> <td width="60" align="center">-Formula 1 - Season 2011 - SCHUMACHER HELMET</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-bottom: 10px;" colspan="3"> Started: 10th Finished: 15th
    Strategy: 3 stops (option-option-option-prime)

    Was unhappy with the level of grip in qualifying, which he reckoned didn't tally with the amount available in practice, and after scraping into Q3 decided against running.

    Soon overtook Paul di Resta to run 10th in the race and spent some laps tracking Bruno Senna before making his move at the first corner.

    Aggressive turn-in led to contact, but it was later in the move, as Schumacher turned across the Renault's bows and Senna opted to leave his nose hanging, that gave Schumacher a puncture.

    A long, slow recovery lap to the pits left him last and the Mercedes man stuck to his task, climbing to 15th at chequered flag.

    Verdict: On course for solid points but for the Senna clash. Got away with the robust initial turn-in and wheelbanging, but that probably played a part in the Brazilian's refusal to yield.
    </td></tr> <tr> <td valign="middle" width="463">8. Nico Rosberg</td> <td width="60" align="center">8/10</td> <td width="60" align="center">-Formula 1 - Season 2011 - ROSBERG HELMET</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-bottom: 10px;" colspan="3"> Started: 6th Finished: 7th
    Strategy: 2 stops (option-option-prime)

    For Rosberg, this season has been all about occupying the upper reaches of the pack behind the big three teams and being a rock-solid points-scorer. And this was exactly what he did in Brazil.

    Earlier in the weekend the Mercedes drivers had fancied their chances of attacking Ferrari, and Rosberg managed to pick off Massa during Q3 to start sixth.
    He slipped back behind the Brazilian at the start, then soon realised he had a fight on his hands to fend off Sutil.

    With the Force India driver on the faster strategy, Rosberg was unable to keep him at bay and despite keeping him back briefly, had to slot in behind him and settle for banking another solid finish to ensure he finished above his team-mate in the drivers' championship.

    Verdict: Hard to fault his weekend, other than the fact that arguably he had the pace to push Sutil harder for sixth but for tyre management problems that have been his weakness this year.
    </td></tr> <tr> <td valign="middle" width="463">9. Bruno Senna</td> <td width="60" align="center">7/10</td> <td width="60" align="center">-Formula 1 - Season 2011 - SENNA 2010</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-bottom: 10px;" colspan="3"> Started: 9th Finished: 17th
    Strategy: 3 stops (option-option-prime-option)

    Came into the weekend after a part-season of promise, but without yet having strung together a complete, consistent weekend.

    The pressure of the home crowd seemed to do him good as he pulled out his most convincing qualifying performance yet to line up ninth on the grid.

    Held position at the start and despite being a little concerned with rear tyre wear, was looking in good shape to bag his second points finish in F1.

    Then Schumacher attacked, turning in on him at the first corner, triggering a wheelbanging moment. Both survived, but when Schumacher went to close the move a few moments later, Senna left his nose in and clipped the left-rear of the Mercedes, giving it a puncture.

    Senna was hit with a drive-through penalty, which was compounded by a gearbox problem that left him scrapping with Heikki Kovalainen down the order.
    Verdict: Qualifying was great; penalty was harsh but it was wasteful to leave his nose in as Schumacher took the corner. That moment undid a lot of good work.
    </td></tr> <tr> <td valign="middle" width="463">10. Vitaly Petrov</td> <td width="60" align="center">7/10</td> <td width="60" align="center">-Formula 1 - Season 2011 - PETROV HELMET</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-bottom: 10px;" colspan="3"> Started: 15th Finished: 10th
    Strategy: 3 stops (option-option-option-prime)

    Was pretty happy with his car after practice, but blamed changing track temperature for his lack of pace during Q2, during which Senna was three quarters of a second faster.

    Team principal Eric Boullier suggested that Petrov's baffling decision to park himself in Hamilton's wake for his final qualifying lap was also a major factor.
    Looked to be facing an uphill struggle to fight for points from there, but climbed to 12th at the start and showed good speed throughout on a three-stop strategy, effectively holding position after the first lap but picking up spots when Senna and Schumacher dropped back as a result of their collision.

    This left Petrov in 10th during the final stint, during which he had enough pace to keep Jaime Alguersuari at bay for the final points place.

    Verdict: Qualifying was awful, but his race performance was good without the costly little mistakes that have too often hurt him in recent races.
    </td></tr> <tr> <td valign="middle" width="463">11. Rubens Barrichello</td> <td width="60" align="center">8/10</td> <td width="60" align="center">-Formula 1 - Season 2011 - BARRICHELLO HELMET</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-bottom: 10px;" colspan="3"> Started: 12th Finished: 14th
    Strategy: 3 stops (option-option-prime-option)

    Ahead of what may prove to be his final grand prix start, the Brazilian remained upbeat and determined to put on a good show for the home crowd. And he did just that.

    His qualifying lap was superb, proving that approaching his 322nd F1 start he still had the ability to drag a great lap out of a tricky car. This was enough to put him 12th on the grid with good reason to hope for a strong race.

    Bogged down badly at the start and ended the first lap down in 19th place. While this was bad news, it at least gave him the chance to do plenty of overtaking to entertain the crowd.

    In the end he finished 14th and reckoned that the car didn't have points-scoring pace even with a better getaway.

    Verdict: With 19 years in F1 under his belt Rubens showed that he can still be relied upon to deliver, with outstanding qualifying pace and a good race drive.
    </td></tr> <tr> <td valign="middle" width="463">12. Pastor Maldonado</td> <td width="60" align="center">4/10</td> <td width="60" align="center">-Formula 1 - Season 2011 - MALDONADO HELMET</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-bottom: 10px;" colspan="3"> Started: 18th Retired: Spin
    Strategy: 1 stop (prime-option)

    Given that this is as close as the Venezuelan gets to a home grand prix, Maldonado was determined to go out on a high after a decent rookie season in F1. Sadly, it was to be a weekend to forget.

    Was very unhappy with qualifying, failing to make the Q1 cut after struggling to get the hoped-for grip out of his option tyres during the final run.

    With Barrichello showing the true pace of the Williams, it meant that Maldonado was up against it from the start of the race.

    Made reasonable progress during the early stages, albeit not enough to have put him into realistic points contention, when he lost the back end while fighting against understeer. The spin put him out of the race.

    Verdict: Disappointing end to a promising year, with Maldonado struggling to string a performance together in either qualifying or the race.
    </td></tr> <tr> <td valign="middle" width="463"><table width="583" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="3"><tbody><tr><td valign="middle" width="463">14. Adrian Sutil</td> <td width="60" align="center">10/10</td> <td width="60" align="center">-Formula 1 - Season 2011 - SUTIL HELMET</td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table>Started: 8th Finished: 6th
    Strategy: 2 stops (option-option-prime)

    Had a good feeling throughout the Brazilian Grand Prix weekend and, with his future uncertain, turned in a flawless performance.

    Was quick throughout and sailed through to Q3, even though the Force India didn't quite have the pace to attack either Rosberg or Massa in the top 10 shoot-out.



    Carried his form into the race, during which he was relentlessly quick, passing Rosberg to set up a sixth-place finish that matched his best of the year.
    By the end of the race, he wasn't so far off Massa's faster Ferrari either.

    Verdict: An outstanding weekend, combining speed and consistency with excellent racecraft.


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    @kimi , here is what i thought of his situation , he is getting back in f1 with lotus/renault getting up to speed then going over to redbull later on as webber wont be there for long , it may be utter rubish but its just a thought that came into my mind ,
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    Anyone heard from Steve? He seems to be MIA. Wonder what kinda software he's working on. Am hopping it's something for our Eddie.

    Re Kubica: u still think thats gonna happen? Ferrari would hire him? that soon in 2013? don't think so, unless u've read something about it.
    Not read anything about it as such buddy, but that seems to be the logical way back for him if he is ever to make a return to F1. He will need to test himself in an F1 car over the course of a few days to see if he still has what it takes and there is only one team that has their own test track and financial resources to arrange a test like that for him, not to forget his good friend at Ferrari who will back him.

    The man standing in his way is Perez. Should he continue to develop over the 2012 season then Ferrari will be tempted to take him as Alonso's side kick unless Massa has some amazing turn around in his performance, unlikely i`d say.

    Re Kimi: u're right,. but what i would like to see is him driving F1 car to its full potential,. i know he won't be interested in car building or building team around himself, he won't care..
    Raikkonen has very limited experience driving a midfield car. Except his first year in F1, he has driven for big teams with big budgets. Don't really see Renault/Lotus to be one of the top 3-4 teams next year. He can use 2012 as a learning year before going onto better things in 2013.

    @kimi , here is what i thought of his situation , he is getting back in f1 with lotus/renault getting up to speed then going over to redbull later on as webber wont be there for long , it may be utter rubish but its just a thought that came into my mind ,
    Eddie Eddie Eddie, it's true, hope dies last I think Red Bull have had enough of Raikkonen during their world rally experience, and do you think Red Bull would want anyone in their team who will upstage the ' chosen one ' aka ' the finger ' Red Bull will take someone from their driver program to fill in the other seat.

    Raikkonen, Mercedes 2013. He has worked with them during his time at Mclaren. Norbert Haug is a fan of Raikkonen's no nonsense attitude, provided Kimi is motivated enough. All that depends on whether Mercedes take Sutil as a reserve driver for 2012, should he fail to get a seat next year.
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    Well I Didnt Knew About Nobert Haug so now your posted scenario is more likely but i think schumi will have contract there for 2013 may be even more but lets see what'll happen let him come to the party i hope he gets well soon he hurt his wrist

    and i really dont know where steve is i hope he is okay he is just too busy for us ,
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    Renault-Kubica relationship at 'point zero' | Planet F1 | Formula One News

    If you read the second paragraph, it states the likeliness of Kubica signing with Ferrari for 2013. Wish him all the best for his future!

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    Renault-Kubica relationship at 'point zero' | Planet F1 | Formula One News


    If you read the second paragraph, it states the likeliness of Kubica signing with Ferrari for 2013. Wish him all the best for his future!

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    Red Bull Racing set for Milton Keynes celebration
    Red Bull Racing will take to the streets of its Milton Keynes hometown this weekend to celebrate its hugely successful 2011 Formula 1 season.

    Lotus boss Dany Bahar has no doubts about Kimi Raikkonen's motivation
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    Bernie Ecclestone hopes Bahrain Grand Prix goes ahead but still watching political situation<!-- end title -->
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    Red Bull Racing sure of making first 2012 test with new car
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    Renault plays down Kimi Raikkonen's snow mobile incident
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    Mark Webber says results not age will decide his Formula 1 future
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    Sebastian Vettel already focused on making 2012 Formula 1 campaign even better<!-- end title -->
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    Drivers targeted for Mark Webber Tasmania Challenge
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    Bernie Ecclestone says Lewis Hamilton's choice of management is a 'disaster'
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    FORMULA ONE - F1: Kubica Will Test 2010 Ferrari - Report

    Yet more news on Kubica's return with Ferrari...

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    Lotus says Renault choosing Raikkonen and Grosjean for 2012 and dropping Petrov is a statement of intent<!-- end title -->
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    Lotus accepts Kimi Raikkonen will need time in Formula 1 comeback
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    Mark Webber expects no problems to adapt to 2012 Formula 1 tyres
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    Bruno Senna would accept third-driver role to stay in Formula 1 in 2012
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    Team Lotus boss Tony Fernandes says Formula 1 must promote itself better
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    Pedro de la Rosa says HRT move not a step back, but expects huge challenge
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    Formula 1 teams continue push to save RRA<!-- end title -->
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    @UK, Blackeye117 and m_waqas
    Guys, looks like my 2nd post that I posted yesterday is interrupted by some problem in the net on my side.

    So here is the reason why I was MIA for last 4 days from Friday to Monday, the culprit was none other then our own KESC. On Friday morning, when I try to open my Computer it just didnot respond, have to take it to the shop in the evening where it was diagnosed as the Motherboard, Power Supply and one of the Hard Disk is fried most likely because of electricity fluctuation. So bought a new system on Saturday and the whole Sunday was gone in recovering the softwares and data which was important for me. On Monday, I have to do some important work so was not free till night.

    Also if that was not enough, I also lost the mobile on Friday and have to closed the sim on Saturday. So its a request to Waqas and Irteza that please delete my mobile no. from your mobiles as the sim is not active any more and I have not got a new sim for now so when ever I have got the new sim will send you guys the new no. Thanks, hope you guys understand it.

    Now back to the topic, Kubica is going to Ferrari in mid 2012 as soon as he is declared fit to handle the pressure of driving F1 car. He will not drive for them in races but will do the practice sessions on regular basis to get up to speed. As for Kimi well RedBull is more possible then Mercedes because Michal most likely will get a new contract, although this assumption is based on how Mercedes will perform next season but with the recent hiring of experienced and well known people from the grid it looks like Michal is going to stay in F1 for atleast 2 more season after 2012.
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    Sure Genius No Problem At all So You Got A New Computer Ahem Ahem one more treat LOL ....

    Well okay deleted your no will wait for your new no yes we can understand ,

    and thanks for getting back on to topic
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    Ben Edwards to lead BBC's Formula 1 commentary team in 2012
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    Eric Boullier says signing no pay drivers shows Lotus Renault's ambition
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    Colin Kolles parts company with HRT F1 team
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    @Blackeye117
    Bro, thanks for understanding.
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    Former F1 driver JJ Lehto sentenced to prison for boat accident<!-- end title -->
    Former grand prix driver JJ Lehto has been sentenced to two years and four months in prison for his part in the boat accident that killed a friend last year.

    Ricciardo, Vergne to race for Toro Rosso in 2012 Formula 1 season
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