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    -Formula 1 - Season 2012 - - 1353882120 mstz

    Here is the Final Championship Standings after the Season Finale Brazilian GP:
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    World Championships standings
    Drivers:                    Constructors:             
     1.  Vettel       281        1.  Red Bull-Renault          460
     2.  Alonso       278        2.  Ferrari                   400
     3.  Raikkonen    207        3.  McLaren-Mercedes          378
     4.  Hamilton     190        4.  Lotus-Renault             303
     5.  Button       188        5.  Mercedes                  142
     6.  Webber       179        6.  Sauber-Ferrari            126
     7.  Massa        122        7.  Force India-Mercedes      109
     8.  Grosjean      96        8.  Williams-Renault           76
     9.  Rosberg       93        9.  Toro Rosso-Ferrari         26
    10.  Perez         66       
    11.  Hulkenberg    63       
    12.  Kobayashi     60       
    13.  Schumacher    49       
    14.  Di Resta      46       
    15.  Maldonado     45       
    16.  Senna         31       
    17.  Vergne        16       
    18.  Ricciardo     10       
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    Senna movie wins two BAFTA awards at London ceremony
    Senna, the documentary film about the life of three-time Formula 1 world champion Ayrton Senna, won two prestigious accolades at Sunday night's BAFTA Awards in London.

    Dani Clos joins HRT as reserve driver for 2012 F1 season
    GP2 front-runner Dani Clos has joined HRT as its reserve driver for the upcoming Formula 1 season.

    Lotus bosses say team atmosphere will bring out Kimi Raikkonen's best
    Lotus will bring the very best out of Kimi Raikkonen, reckon team bosses Eric Boullier and Gerard Lopez, who believe the 2007 world champion is a much more dedicated team player than his past reputation suggested.

    Jarno Trulli sure he will keep his Caterham drive
    Jarno Trulli says he is confident his seat at Caterham is safe going into the 2012 Formula 1 season, despite ongoing uncertainty over his position.

    Kamui Kobayashi relaxed about Sauber reliability
    Kamui Kobayashi says the reliability issues that struck Sauber in the first week of winter testing are nothing to be concerned about.
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    'No team orders' at Red Bull - Mateschitz
    Team owner Dietrich Mateschitz has promised there will be no team orders at Red Bull this season and sees no reason why Mark Webber can't challenge Sebastian Vettel this year.

    Lopez calls for stricter cost cutting
    Lotus team co-owner Gerard Lopez is keen for Formula One to agree on a stricter Resource Restriction Agreement (RRA) and sees no reason why the sport cannot put an enforceable cap on costs.

    Parliament group says Bahrain GP should not be cancelled
    An All-Party Group from the British parliament has expressed its disagreement with calls to cancel the Bahrain Grand Prix.

    Peter Sauber says James Key's exit a logical conclusion for the F1 team
    Peter Sauber believes parting ways with technical director James Key was the only logical option the team had.

    Mercedes confirms launch date
    Mercedes has confirmed it will launch its new 2012 car in the Circuit de Catalunya's pit lane on the opening morning of the second pre-season test next week.

    Bruno Senna believes Barcelona test will show truer picture of Williams's form
    Bruno Senna thinks the second F1 test at Barcelona will show a truer picture than Jerez about where his Williams team stands.
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    -- Ayrton Senna

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    Quote Originally Posted by m_waqas View Post
    -Formula 1 - Season 2012 - - 369883
    Just when one thinks they have seen all of it's ugliness, the Ferrari shows up some place else to show yet more and a new angle of how ugly F2012 really is

    The other ugly ones, like Force India and Red Bull, are hidden by their liveries

    @m_waqas

    You had asked for a link some time back. Here it is.
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    Capitalism
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    Kevin Magnussen will drive for McLaren in young driver F1 test as he gets extended role
    McLaren has announced that Kevin Magnussen will have an extended role this year as a member of the team's Young Driver Programme.

    Lotus's technical director James Allison encouraged by team form in Jerez F1 test
    Lotus technical director James Allison says that his team was happy to run the most laps of anybody in the first pre-season Formula 1 test at Jerez last week.
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    Bernie Ecclestone says F1 teams not concerned at all with Bahrain situation
    Bernie Ecclestone says Formula 1 teams have absolutely no concerns about the situation in Bahrain, and insists the race will go ahead as planned.

    Caterham confident Leafield move will not affect performance during F1 season
    Caterham chief technical officer Mike Gascoyne is confident that the team's mid-season move to a new factory will not affect its competitiveness this season.

    Jean Eric-Vergne says Toro Rosso among strongest midfield F1 teams
    Jean Eric-Vergne says Toro Rosso's promising showing in Jerez testing suggests the team could be one of the strongest of this year's midfield runners.

    Rosberg not afraid of Schumacher resurgence
    Nico Rosberg is confident he still has the edge over his Mercedes team-mate Michael Schumacher, despite the seven-time world champion closing the gap in 2011.
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    Pirelli reveals tyre compounds for first races of 2012 F1 season
    Pirelli has announced the tyre compounds it will take to the first three races of the 2012 Formula 1 season.
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    Pedro de la Rosa believes F1 racing will not change in 2012 despite new tyres
    Pedro de la Rosa believes Formula 1 racing will not change much this year despite the introduction of new tyres by Pirelli.

    Red Bull wary of new Mercedes
    Red Bull's Adrian Newey believes that Mercedes is launching its car later than its rivals in order to hide something from the rest of the teams.

    Franz Tost says Alguersuari and Buemi were not strong enough for Red Bull drive
    Toro Rosso team boss Franz Tost says the talent of Jaime Alguersuari and Sebastien Buemi was simply not enough to be in a position to challenge for a seat at Red Bull Racing.

    Whitmarsh hopeful of FOTA future
    Martin Whitmarsh is hopeful that the Formula One teams will continue to work together despite reduced numbers remaining in FOTA.

    HRT to skip first Barcelona F1 test to focus on new car
    The HRT team will skip the first Barcelona test in order to focus on being ready with its new car for the second and final test there.
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    Cool Mark Webber as a guest in BBC program Something for the Weekend on 12th Feb, 2012.

    -Formula 1 - Season 2012 - -371650
    courtesy Sladex

    1/4 (Interview)

    <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/axpxwhRY4Pw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    2/4 (Pie degustation)

    <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/buUTwnmQEpc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    3/4 (Cooking)

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    <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/IEXEYIrf3WI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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    Williams F1 team sure the new FW34 car is a step forward
    Williams is convinced this year's car is a clear step forward compared to last year's challenger, with which the team struggled most of the season.

    Mike Gascoyne promoted to chief technical officer of the entire Caterham Group
    Mark Smith has taken over control of the Caterham F1 team's technical department after Mike Gascoyne's was promoted to chief technical officer of the entire Caterham Group.

    Valtteri Bottas gets Barcelona F1 test outing with Williams
    Valtteri Bottas will have his first taste of the new Williams-Renault FW34 on the second day of next week's Barcelona test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleKracker View Post
    What we learned from Jerez testing
    1. Ferrari has a lot of work to do

    There's little doubt that the main talking point of the week at Jerez was Ferrari. After being so bold in its declaration of fighting for world championship glory in 2012, and unveiling such a radical car, the pressure was always going to be on to ensure it came up with the goods right from the start.

    Judging by the evidence from testing times and the mood pervading the team, that's not happened yet – but it doesn't mean its campaign is a write-off.

    One bad test does not destroy a season, and if any team can turn its situation around before Melbourne, it's Ferrari. But there is no doubt that the midnight oil will be burning in Maranello for the next few weeks.
    superb read.. thanks.

    its like sugar coating Ferrari's weakness so as to not come across as blunt ... i hope this time Ferrari keeps it mouth as much shut as possible and focus on beating RBRs and Mclarens.. but as it said, things not going as expected.

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleKracker View Post

    4. There is a new Kimi/old Kimi

    Yet there remain plenty of traits that we got used to seeing in the old Kimi. He has little time for boring questions from journalists; in media briefings his responses to the same old probes drew little more than grumbles – yet he responded in full-flow if he was asked something intelligent.
    thats the best thing, isn't it? :p


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    You had asked for a link some time back. Here it is.
    ?? ?? when did i ask for such stuff? i must be stoned when i did that .. but u 've made steve's day .. good trick..

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    Mercedes' new W03 Formula 1 car completes successful shakedown
    Mercedes enjoyed a successful first run of its 2012 Formula 1 car at Silverstone today ahead of its test debut at Barcelona next Tuesday.
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    @genius83: brother almost all championship winning drivers are said to be very smooth in the corner as to not effect cars stability but ayrton senna did complete opposite he used to constantly blip throttle in the middle of the corner. I cannot understand this can you please explain it , thanks

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    Vitaly Petrov replaces Jarno Trulli at Caterham F1 team
    Vitaly Petrov will race with the Caterham team during the 2012 season, taking Jarno Trulli's place at the squad, it was confirmed on Friday.

    First picture of new Mercedes as W03 runs at Silverstone
    The new Mercedes W03 broke cover for the first time at Silverstone on Thursday, completing its first run ahead of its maiden test at Barcelona next week.

    -Formula 1 - Season 2012 - - 1329474899

    Newey inducted in to Hall of Fame
    Red Bull chief technical officer Adrian Newey has been inducted in to the Motor Sport magazine Hall of Fame.

    Trulli 'proud' of Caterham achievement
    Jarno Trulli says that he is "really proud" to have helped establish Caterham as a Formula One team after being replaced by Vitaly Petrov.

    @sial_ali
    Ayrton was one of the most aggressive driver in this sport and this middle of the corner throttle blipping was one of its traits. The reason is he was driving a Turbo power cars from his career start till the end of 88 season when turbo got banned. To reduce turbo lag it was necessary to put extra revs so that the turbo could work constantly. Senna uses this middle of the corner throttle technique which gives the engine the needed revs so that coming out of the corner turbo could start working earlier then other cars.

    Now, one thing should remain clear that the turbo lag was present in the corner as at that point of time the engine revs are still lower then the need but when the car exits the corner Turbo will kick in faster. After the ban on turbo, Senna start using this technique just because he thinks this will still work in a faster exit.

    Senna is not the only one who has tried that though, Michal also used this technique but he used this technique using aerodynamics by entering the corner in the narrowest way and exiting on the wide with the rear of the car hanging outward.

    Last season Vettel also use this technique but again it was for a specific requirement as Exhaust Blown Diffuser needs higher revs to generate higher downforce.
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    @genius83 : Thanks for the detailed reply brother . this means blipping the throttle while at the limit of the grip that too in RWD car and still controlling it . these F1 drivers are God-gifted or practice makes them perfect ?
    you have very extensive knowledge about F1 brother, MashAllah.

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    Christian Horner says F1 teams will trust FIA over Bahrain GP
    Red Bull team principal Christian Horner says Formula 1 teams will trust the FIA when deciding on the Bahrain GP, but insists there are no plans to cancel the event at the moment.

    Vitaly Petrov relieved to have secured F1 future after landing Caterham seat
    New Caterham F1 signing Vitaly Petrov says he is relieved to have sorted his future in F1 after months of uncertainty.

    Stefano Domenicali 'very sad' there are no Italian drivers in F1 after Trulli's exit
    Ferrari team boss Stefano Domenicali says he is very sad Formula 1 will have no Italian drivers on the grid in 2012.

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    Well some drivers are God gifted others make it perfect by practice, eg is Senna a god gifted driver and Michal a hard working practice makes perfect driver. I can't say for Vettel whether he is God gifted or Practice makes perfect for now because he has shown talent in both ways so may be 10 years later we could be able to judge him better.

    Another God gifted driver was Gilles Villeneuve, he also likes exiting the corner with the rear hanging outward of the corner. Even it was said that there is no photo of Gilles coming out of the corner without the rear hanging outward.

    Thanks for the complement.

    Here is the AMG Mercedes Petronas team's Silverstone Shakedown Video:
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    @genius83: Thanks bro and who is your favourite driver ?

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    Uk Few More auto Pluses

    Watch out for Kimi

    The pros and cons of Ferrari's pull-rod design
    Blackeye, I didn't post the Ferrari pull rod article 'cause of Paula, she doesn't like technical stuff and I don't want to offend her at this point in time. Need her support this year. Going to paste the article now. As for the other one, it's part of the digital magazine, comes in pdf format and at least i don't know how to get things from it so i've found a way around it. Maybe genius can do something about it. Sending a PM to all three of you.

    ?? ?? when did i ask for such stuff? i must be stoned when i did that .. but u 've made steve's day .. good trick..
    Did you not send a PM saying you wanted to get something special for Steve for valentine's day?
    Thanks for Mark Webber videos<label for="rb_iconid_14">-Formula 1 - Season 2012 - - icon14</label>

    I can't say for Vettel whether he is God gifted or Practice makes perfect for now because he has shown talent in both ways so may be 10 years we could be able to judge him better.
    Ahem You meant to say Adrian Newey? j/k
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    The pros and cons of Ferrari's pull-rod design

    With Ferrari having opted for a pull-rod suspension for the front end of its F2012, the layout returns to F1 after an absence of 10 years. Craig Scarborough looks at the pros and cons of the design.

    By Craig Scarborough
    AUTOSPORT contributing writer

    It's often said there is nothing new in F1 in terms of design. Instead, there's a revolving cycle, with ideas being dropped and readopted over the years.

    Ferrari's launch of its radical F2012 brought the return of pull-rod suspension to the front end of the car, an idea thought impractical with the current high noses. But with pull-rod suspension at the rear of the car also being in vogue, how does this design differ from the more established push-rod and what are the technical benefits?

    <table style="margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px;" class="pictable" width="583" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td>-Formula 1 - Season 2012 - - 1329322314 The suspension is highlighted grey and the near horizontal pull-rod in yellow
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    A push\pull-rod is the means by which the wheel movement is transferred to the spring\dampers, as well as the antiroll and heave mechanisms forming part of the modern F1 suspension system. The rod mounted to the wishbone rotates a rocker to which all of these mechanisms are then attached.

    In the case of the Ferrari F2012, the pull-rod mounts to the top wishbone and then passes nearly horizontally across to the lower edge of the chassis. This is an inverted version of a push-rod, which has the push-rod mounted to the lower wishbone and passes up at a steep angle to the top edge of the chassis. Pull-rod suspension was last seen on the front of the car in 2001 with the Minardi PS01. There hasn't been a car with pull-rod both ends for well over ten years.

    Background
    <table style="margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px;" class="pictable" width="583" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td>-Formula 1 - Season 2012 - - 1329322924 This is an example of a push-rod set-up. Note the steeply angled push-rod (yellow)</td></tr></tbody></table>
    In the late seventies, Gordon Murray adopted pull-rod suspension for the Brabhams he designed. This had the benefit of being very slim aerodynamically, as the rod was so thin and the larger rocker and spring/damper were mounted inside the chassis. During the early eighties most teams adopted pull-rod suspension. When ground effect was banned for the 1983 season, Murray innovated again by turning the pull-rod upside down and created the push-rod. Instead of the rod pulling the rocker, the rod now pushed the rocker, which in turn was now mounted at the top of the chassis.

    Over the following 30 years, car design evolved to converge towards the push-rod design. That was until 2009, when Adrian Newey had the pull-rod reborn, with it being fitted to the rear of the Red Bull RB5. All teams have since followed this solution, but retained push-rod at the front.

    <table style="margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px;" class="pictable" width="583" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td>-Formula 1 - Season 2012 - - 1329323106 This is an example of a pull-rod set-up. Note the near horizontal pull-rod (yellow)
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    Ferrari front pull-rod
    When the rumour of front pull-rod was circulated during the pre-season, it didn't seem realistic that this could work. At the rear the low position of the gearbox makes the pull-rod geometry easy to achieve, but at the front the chassis is some 30cm in the air; this places the pull-rod nearly horizontally.

    Intuitively, this looks like the rod would barely move the rocker as the wheel rises. But the pull-rod actually operates by creating a triangle with the wishbone, so in actual fact it's the angle between the wishbone and pull-rod that creates the displacement. When comparing Ferrari's pull-rod geometry to a push-rod, the relative angles are the same and therefore both operate the rocker equally efficiently.

    So clearly Ferrari has found a solution that has similar geometry to the push-rod that went before it. So it's unlikely that they have gone this route for improvement in operating suspension. he most likely benefit will be aerodynamics and packaging.

    Aerodynamics may seem an odd benefit; it's true the pull-rod can be thinner, which might create a small benefit, but it's likely the near horizontal position of the pull-rod is the key to the real benefit. Teams already shape their wishbones to manage airflow off the front wing. Within the tight rules, quite a lot of aero effect is achieved with the wishbones. As the pull-rod is horizontal compared to the angled push-rod, it can be more effective in altering the airflow over the car.

    <table style="margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px;" class="pictable" width="583" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td>-Formula 1 - Season 2012 - - 1329323002 With a pull-rod the spring and dampers are mounted much lower than with a push-rod (shaded) to lower the centre of gravity
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    Also the packaging around the front brake ducts becomes easier compared to push-rod, as a pull-rod no longer passes straight through the area where the cooling scoop is fitted. This creates more freedom for the designer to shape the brake ducts.

    With the F2012's nose and chassis being raised to their maximum, the centre of gravity of the car will be also be raised. As pull-rod effectively turns the push-rod system upside down, the weight of the rockers, torsion bars and other mechanical parts are now placed at the bottom of the nose, rather than the top. This helps lower the centre of gravity a little, to offset the new nose design.

    However, no gains come without compromises. Having the pull-rod mounted to the top wishbone creates much greater loads in the wishbone. This means the wishbone and its mounting with the chassis need to be stronger, this will cost some weight.

    Ferrari appeared to have struggled in the first test. With so many new solutions on the car it's hard to pinpoint what might be causing the issues. Going its own direction with pull-rod suspension at the front might be seen a risk this year, but with suspension simulation on both computer software and on the seven-post rig, it's unlikely the pull-rod set-up will be contributing to the problems.

    Overall, the gains for a pull-rod set-up are small, but clearly worth chasing. Ferrari has stolen a march on its competitors with the front pull-rod. Its rivals will not be able to react to the change this year, due to a completely now monocoque and front suspension being needed. For such a small gain, this would be a time consuming and expensive change mid-season. Now doubt this concept will go onto the "to do" list of the design teams for their 2013 cars.
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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