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    World Championships standings
    Drivers:                    Constructors:             
     1.  Vettel       281        1.  Red Bull-Renault          460
     2.  Alonso       278        2.  Ferrari                   400
     3.  Raikkonen    207        3.  McLaren-Mercedes          378
     4.  Hamilton     190        4.  Lotus-Renault             303
     5.  Button       188        5.  Mercedes                  142
     6.  Webber       179        6.  Sauber-Ferrari            126
     7.  Massa        122        7.  Force India-Mercedes      109
     8.  Grosjean      96        8.  Williams-Renault           76
     9.  Rosberg       93        9.  Toro Rosso-Ferrari         26
    10.  Perez         66       
    11.  Hulkenberg    63       
    12.  Kobayashi     60       
    13.  Schumacher    49       
    14.  Di Resta      46       
    15.  Maldonado     45       
    16.  Senna         31       
    17.  Vergne        16       
    18.  Ricciardo     10       
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    Paul di Resta says right tyre choice to start the race with key to German Grand Prix success
    Paul di Resta believes that making the correct choice of starting tyre will be the key to success in the German Grand Prix.

    Williams' Mark Gillan ready to react to evolving dry track in German Grand Prix
    The lack of dry free practice running ahead of the German Grand Prix means that teams will have to be adaptable during the race, according Williams's Mark Gillan.

    Lack of dry running makes Ross Brawn unsure Schumacher can take a podium in German Grand Prix
    Mercedes team principal Ross Brawn is unsure whether or not Michael Schumacher will be able to fight for a podium finish despite the German starting his home grand prix from third on the grid.

    Red Bull's engine maps referred to German Grand Prix stewards by FIA
    The FIA has referred Red Bull to the stewards of the German Grand Prix for a suspected breach of Formula 1's technical regulations.

    McLaren's Whitmarsh confident that a cost-cutting agreement is close for Formula 1's teams
    McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh is confident that the FIA and Formula 1 teams can come to a final agreement on cost-cutting soon.

    Analysis: The FIA's Red Bull engine investigation at the German Grand Prix
    It's too early to say what the consequences will be for Red Bull if the German Grand Prix stewards agree with FIA technical delegate Joe Bauer's conclusions that Red Bull is in breach of Article 5.5.3 of the F1 technical regulations.

    Red Bull cleared to race in German Grand Prix, as stewards declare no further action to be taken.
    German Grand Prix race stewards have decided to take no further action against Red Bull over torque map irregularities.
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    Fernando Alonso holds off Vettel and Button to take third win of 2012 in the German GP
    Fernando Alonso extended his Formula 1 world championship lead by fending off Sebastian Vettel and a resurgent Jenson Button to win the German Grand Prix at Hockenheim.

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    German GP
    Race Results
    Pos  Driver        Team                       Time
     1.  Alonso        Ferrari                    1h31:05.862
     2.  Vettel        Red Bull-Renault           +     3.732
     3.  Button        McLaren-Mercedes           +     6.949
     4.  Raikkonen     Lotus-Renault              +    16.409
     5.  Kobayashi     Sauber-Ferrari             +    21.925
     6.  Perez         Sauber-Ferrari             +    27.896
     7.  Schumacher    Mercedes                   +    28.960
     8.  Webber        Red Bull-Renault           +    46.900
     9.  Hulkenberg    Force India-Mercedes       +    48.100
    10.  Rosberg       Mercedes                   +    48.800
    11.  Di Resta      Force India-Mercedes       +    59.200
    12.  Ricciardo     Toro Rosso-Ferrari         +  1:11.400
    13.  Massa         Ferrari                    +  1:16.800
    14.  Vergne        Toro Rosso-Ferrari         +  1:16.900
    15.  Maldonado     Williams-Renault           +     1 lap
    16.  Petrov        Caterham-Renault           +     1 lap
    17.  Senna         Williams-Renault           +     1 lap
    18.  Grosjean      Lotus-Renault              +     1 lap
    19.  Kovalainen    Caterham-Renault           +    2 laps
    20.  Pic           Marussia-Cosworth          +    2 laps
    21.  De la Rosa    HRT-Cosworth               +    3 laps
    22.  Glock         Marussia-Cosworth          +    3 laps
    23.  Karthikeyan   HRT-Cosworth               +    3 laps
    Fastest lap: Schumacher, 1:18.275  
    
    Not classified/retirements:
    Driver        Team                       On lap
    Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes             58
    Here is the World Championships Standings after German GP:
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    World Championships Standings
    Drivers:                    Constructors:             
     1.  Alonso       154        1.  Red Bull-Renault          238
     2.  Webber       120        2.  Ferrari                   177
     3.  Vettel       118        3.  McLaren-Mercedes          157
     4.  Raikkonen     95        4.  Lotus-Renault             156
     5.  Hamilton      92        5.  Mercedes                  105
     6.  Rosberg       76        6.  Sauber-Ferrari             78
     7.  Button        65        7.  Williams-Renault           47
     8.  Grosjean      61        8.  Force India-Mercedes       46
     9.  Perez         47        9.  Toro Rosso-Ferrari          6
    10.  Kobayashi     31       
    11.  Maldonado     29       
    12.  Schumacher    29       
    13.  Di Resta      27       
    14.  Massa         23       
    15.  Hulkenberg    19       
    16.  Senna         18       
    17.  Vergne         4       
    18.  Ricciardo      2       
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    yes a great race, Alonso all the way.
    but more interestingly a possible penalty for vettel
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    @MoizIrfan
    Why???? 3 previous incidents from past seasons were not penalized why this one.
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    Alonso reckons pursuers Sebastian Vettel and Jenson Button were faster after winning German Grand Prix
    Fernando Alonso believes he did not have the quickest car in the German Grand Prix, where the Spaniard secured his third win of the season.

    Vettel critical of Hamilton's "stupid" move during the German Grand Prix
    Sebastian Vettel hit out at Lewis Hamilton for unlapping himself during the German Grand Prix, calling the McLaren driver's actions "stupid".

    Jenson Button says replays show Sebastian Vettel's German Grand Prix pass was wrong
    Jenson Button says the television replays "say it all" about Sebastian Vettel's pass on him during the German Grand Prix, the Briton declining to comment and leaving the stewards to rule on the incident.
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    Great race by ALO. Yes...! And not to mention a really good race by the Saubers, thumbs up for them.
    Almost everyone in Pakistan is doing corruption to the extent they can. Our leaders are doing at the level they can do. So why should we complain?

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    Sauber duo say better result was possible in the German Grand Prix
    Kamui Kobayashi and Sergio Perez believe their fifth and sixth place finishes in the German Grand Prix was actually a lot less than their Sauber team was capable of if they had qualified better.

    Michael Schumacher says he 'squeezed everything' from his Mercedes in German Grand Prix
    Michael Schumacher said seventh place was the maximum he could have hoped for in the German Grand Prix after saying he had "squeezed everything" out of his car.
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    Why was Vettel's move on Button declared illegal and that of Hamilton in Bahrain declared legal? Both moves were attempted off the track. Vettel would have passed Button sooner or later.

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    Vettel penalised for Button pass, drops from second to fifth in the German Grand Prix
    Sebastian Vettel has been handed a penalty for his overtaking move on Jenson Button in the German Grand Prix.

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    German GP
    Revised Results
    Pos  Driver        Team                       
     1.  Alonso        Ferrari
     2.  Button        McLaren-Mercedes
     3.  Raikkonen     Lotus-Renault
     4.  Kobayashi     Sauber-Ferrari
     5.  Vettel        Red Bull-Renault
     6.  Perez         Sauber-Ferrari
     7.  Schumacher    Mercedes
     8.  Webber        Red Bull-Renault
     9.  Hulkenberg    Force India-Mercedes
    10.  Rosberg       Mercedes
    11.  Di Resta      Force India-Mercedes
    12.  Ricciardo     Toro Rosso-Ferrari
    13.  Massa         Ferrari
    14.  Vergne        Toro Rosso-Ferrari
    15.  Maldonado     Williams-Renault
    16.  Petrov        Caterham-Renault
    17.  Senna         Williams-Renault
    18.  Grosjean      Lotus-Renault
    19.  Kovalainen    Caterham-Renault
    20.  Pic           Marussia-Cosworth
    21.  De la Rosa    HRT-Cosworth
    22.  Glock         Marussia-Cosworth
    23.  Karthikeyan   HRT-Cosworth
    
    Not classified/retirements:
    Driver        Team
    Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes
    Here is the Revised World Championship Standings after Vettel's Penalty
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    Revised World Championship Standings
    Drivers:                    Constructors:
     1.  Alonso       154        1.  Red Bull-Renault          230
     2.  Webber       120        2.  Ferrari                   177
     3.  Vettel       110        3.  McLaren-Mercedes          160
     4.  Raikkonen     98        4.  Lotus-Renault             159
     5.  Hamilton      92        5.  Mercedes                  105
     6.  Rosberg       76        6.  Sauber-Ferrari             80
     7.  Button        68        7.  Williams-Renault           47
     8.  Grosjean      61        8.  Force India-Mercedes       46
     9.  Perez         47        9.  Toro Rosso-Ferrari          6
    10.  Kobayashi     33
    11.  Maldonado     29
    12.  Schumacher    29
    13.  Di Resta      27
    14.  Massa         23
    15.  Hulkenberg    19
    16.  Senna         18
    17.  Vergne         4
    18.  Ricciardo      2
    
    Jenson Button says no one faster than McLaren now
    Jenson Button believes that no car is faster than his McLaren after he fought for the win at Hockenheim.

    Nico Hulkenberg disappointed by German Grand Prix race slump
    Nico Hulkenberg conceded he was hoping for a better result in the German Grand Prix, even though he said he did not expect to be able to hold on to fourth.

    Williams says car damage spoiled Pastor Maldonado's German Grand Prix
    Williams's chief operations engineer Mark Gillan said substantial damage to Pastor Maldonado's car from debris led to his lapped 15th-place finish at Hockenheim.

    Stefano Domenicali says he told Ferrari to ignore Red Bull's technical row ahead of German GP
    Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali says he told his team to ignore the Red Bull technical row that broke out ahead of the German Grand Prix.

    Lewis Hamilton says German Grand Prix puncture was 'cruel luck'
    Lewis Hamilton labelled the puncture he suffered in the German Grand Prix as "cruel luck" for him.

    McLaren's Sam Michael reckons Sebastian Vettel's German Grand Prix penalty was an obvious call
    McLaren sporting director Sam Michael believes that Sebastian Vettel would not have been able to complete the pass on Jenson Button without going off the track, meaning that a post-race penalty was inevitable.

    Red Bull accepts F1 rules may be clarified over engine-mapping row
    Red Bull team principal Christian Horner accepts that question marks over the legality of the team's engine mapping could lead to Formula 1's regulations being clarified.

    Whitmarsh says "no stupidity" in Hamilton's move on Vettel in German GP
    McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh has defended Lewis Hamilton after he was accused of pulling a "stupid" move when unlapping himself during the German Grand Prix.

    Kimi Raikkonen believes poor qualifying cost him chance to fight for German GP win
    Kimi Raikkonen believes he could have pushed the leaders in the German Grand Prix had he been able to qualify higher up the grid.
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    Lotus's double DRS device explained

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    What Hamilton did was totally unacceptable. There is no rule to stop him from doing what he did but it's long been one of those unwritten agreement between drivers. You do not mess around with race leaders and potentially get in the way of a title fight or race win. I hope it's looked into or you could find teams putting a driver on fresh tires, who is not in contention for the title or race win, strategically in the middle of a battle for the lead and possibly influence the out come.

    Vettel should have given the place back right away; that's what i thought the moment i saw it and thought he had a faster car and one more lap. He was going to get by Button who had started to struggle more than Alonso and Vettel.

    Red Bull's Torque map irregularities are not going to go away as has been made very clear. How much it costs them in lap time remains to be seen. With the technical working group meeting tomorrow it might be clarified before next weekend.

    No name team continues to ruin races for it's drivers. Raikkonen got shafted by the team when they put on yet another set of softs for him to do the middle stint. That ruined his race. Grosjean was all over the shop.

    Sauber went well as the track temperature dropped 6 degrees, they were able to do faster laptimes than the leaders. Hamilton was unlucky and Massa...... Wonder when Luca Badoer will return

    I was so waiting for " Fernando is faster than everyone. Can y'all confirm you understand the message? " coming from the Ferrari pitwall as a joke, but it never did
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    The complete German Grand Prix review please
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    AWESOME. enough said... ok just for record i m saying this, "if ALO wins WDC this year, treat is on me"

    this is great.

    also thanks to HAM for impeding VET and giving ALO some breathing space. what a dumb move HAM made. we know he was faster and frustrated but he should've chosen somewhere else to unlap himself

    now i think Lotus as a team hasn't got what it takes to be on top spot of podium ..

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    @UK
    What I think about Hamilton's incident is it was done purposefully by McLaren to interfere with the battle for the lead and it was not only to interfere with Vettel alone but they were hoping that Hamilton could do the same to Alonso too. Because I remember they have told him to unlap himself otherwise I am sure that Hamilton would never do this sort of stuff.

    As for Vettel's penalty, I think stewards have made the wrong decision Vettel was on the outside when he was overtaking and Button have not give him enough room to make the overtake stick which led him to do what he did. I know the rule have been cleared after Hamilton/Rosberg Bahrain GP incident but that happens on the straight here it happens coming out of a hairpin, in Bahrain Rosberg forced Hamilton off the track here Button do the same thing but coming out of the hairpin.

    And if the penalty was really necessary then why can't they just change the finishing order Vettel have not gain 20 secs on Button by that move so why penalized him for 18 those secs that he has not gain.

    About Massa, I don't know why you are blaming him for this performance he lost the front wing at the first corner on the first lap and the cause was a ToroRosso of Daniel Ricciardo and he has finished behind him even after pitting for a nose on the first lap.
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    Ferrari boss Domenicali reckons Fernando Alonso is driving better than ever
    Ferrari team boss Stefano Domenicali believes Fernando Alonso is driving better than ever this year, following the Spaniard's third win of the season in Germany.

    Raikkonen says luck not a factor in Lotus not having yet won a race in 2012
    Kimi Raikkonen says it would be wrong for Lotus to believe that it has been unlucky not to win a race so far this year.

    Whitmarsh: McLaren back in the hunt after strong form in Germany
    McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh is certain that the team now has the car and a strong enough development programme to fight for the world championship after a difficult spell.

    Felipe Massa says Fernando Alonso needs his support to win the championship
    Felipe Massa believes that Fernando Alonso will need his support if the Spaniard is to win the world championship for Ferrari this year.

    Clos to get another F1 Friday outing with HRT at Hungarian Grand Prix
    Dani Clos will get another outing with the HRT team during Friday practice for this weekend's Hungarian Grand Prix.

    Horner says Hamilton did nothing wrong in unlapping himself during German GP
    Red Bull team principal Christian Horner has accepted that there was nothing wrong with Lewis Hamilton passing Sebastian Vettel to unlap himself in the German Grand Prix.

    Boullier confident Lotus can fight McLaren for third in the constructors' championship
    Lotus team boss Eric Boullier says he is confident his team can stay in the fight for third place in the standings despite having been passed by McLaren.
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