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    World Constructors Champion (RedBull Renault)
    -Formula 1 - Season 2012 - - 1353882120 mstz

    Here is the Final Championship Standings after the Season Finale Brazilian GP:
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    World Championships standings
    Drivers:                    Constructors:             
     1.  Vettel       281        1.  Red Bull-Renault          460
     2.  Alonso       278        2.  Ferrari                   400
     3.  Raikkonen    207        3.  McLaren-Mercedes          378
     4.  Hamilton     190        4.  Lotus-Renault             303
     5.  Button       188        5.  Mercedes                  142
     6.  Webber       179        6.  Sauber-Ferrari            126
     7.  Massa        122        7.  Force India-Mercedes      109
     8.  Grosjean      96        8.  Williams-Renault           76
     9.  Rosberg       93        9.  Toro Rosso-Ferrari         26
    10.  Perez         66       
    11.  Hulkenberg    63       
    12.  Kobayashi     60       
    13.  Schumacher    49       
    14.  Di Resta      46       
    15.  Maldonado     45       
    16.  Senna         31       
    17.  Vergne        16       
    18.  Ricciardo     10       
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    -Formula 1 - Season 2012 - -449160
    courtesy Sladex

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    whats with on-podium interviews? anyone likes them?.. i hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m_waqas View Post
    whats with on-podium interviews? anyone likes them?.. i hate.
    I didn't like it either
    Almost everyone in Pakistan is doing corruption to the extent they can. Our leaders are doing at the level they can do. So why should we complain?

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    McLaren bullish after new pitstop record during the German Grand Prix
    McLaren sporting director Sam Michael is confident that the team's pit woes are behind it after again setting a new pitstop record during the German Grand Prix.

    Senna says his performances in F1 this year are worthy of scoring more points
    Bruno Senna believes that his performances in Formula 1 this year have deserved more points than he has to his name so far.
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    Williams: Even small updates count in the battle for competitiveness in F1 2012
    Williams believes that Formula 1 teams are having to evaluate smaller updates than usual because of the competitive nature of the sport in 2012.

    McLaren plans further upgrades for the Hungarian Grand Prix
    McLaren will introduce further car upgrades for this weekend's Hungarian Grand Prix as it bids to build on its impressive performance at Hockenheim.

    Ferrari boss Stefano Domenicali promises to protect Felipe Massa from pressure surrounding tough 2012
    Ferrari team boss Stefano Domenicali has promised to protect Felipe Massa from any pressure surrounding his tough 2012 season.

    Romain Grosjean says adapting to new drivers is a disadvantage for Lotus
    Romain Grosjean believes that Lotus has been held back this year because it is getting used to working with two new drivers.
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    -- Ayrton Senna

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    this is good. so after series of shitty pitstops Maclarens have improved drastically...

    here is the vdo.

    <iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/kRAvi2iI37g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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    Talking

    for Eddie and me.

    hahahahahahhahaha.....

    thats our hero falling down .. was he stoned or what??




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    Sebastian Vettel's German Grand Prix penalty came after FIA warning over off-track moves
    Formula 1 drivers were warned specifically about increased scrutiny on anyone gaining an advantage by leaving the track, before Sebastian Vettel's controversial move on Jenson Button at the German Grand Prix.

    Mercedes admits it needs to find half a second of extra pace
    Mercedes is lacking around half a second of laptime compared to the frontrunners, and must find that performance if it is to return to winning ways.

    Toto Wolff increases Williams role
    Toto Wolff is to step up his involvement at Williams after taking up an executive director role that will result in him directly assisting team principal Frank Williams.

    FIA set to force Red Bull to change engine mapping
    Red Bull Racing is set to be forced to make changes to the engine mapping of its cars for this weekend's Hungarian Grand Prix, AUTOSPORT has learned, with the FIA poised to issue a clarification in the next 48 hours on the matter.

    Lotus's best form of 2012 is still to come, promises Eric Boullier
    Lotus team principal Eric Boullier is confident that his team will have an even stronger second half of the 2012 Formula 1 season, after its promising start to the campaign.

    Force India's Nico Hulkenberg and Paul di Resta say team will struggle to star in Hungary
    Force India pairing Nico Hulkenberg and Paul di Resta believe that the team must be at the top of its game to score big points in this weekend's Hungarian Grand Prix.
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    Alonso does it again
    The complete German Grand Prix review

    Fernando Alonso spent another race under pressure at the front of the field, but unlike Silverstone, in Germany he was able to hang on and take another race win, as our GP Review recounts.

    -Formula 1 - Season 2012 - - 1342995592

    There were three Germans in the top four on the grid for their home race. The current world champion, the man with more world championships than anyone else, and a man who may be world champion one day.

    But they were all sat behind a Spaniard, and by the end of the day, that Spaniard was still there, while none of the home drivers made it into the top three, in the official results at least.

    In his capacity as legend-of-the-week in Formula 1's quaintly retro new habit of having the drivers interviewed on the podium by star names, Niki Lauda asked Fernando Alonso what it felt like to be a Spaniard in an Italian car winning in Germany - in a light-hearted reference to those nations' differing roles in the Eurozone crisis. The unruffled Alonso quickly pointed out that Ferrari had a Greek design chief...

    Whatever its other troubles at present, Spain can currently be very confident in its greatest racing driver's ability to deliver. The Ferrari is clearly now nowhere near as bad as it seemed in winter testing, but no one would claim it is the field's benchmark. Yet Alonso has taken it to three wins and a 34-point championship lead, while his team-mate must struggle to remember what the view from a podium looks like.

    Asked before practice if he was in the best form of his career, Alonso agreed - but with the caveat that everyone improves year by year with experience, and that he was in better physical condition than before as well, revealing for the first time that he had struggled with various pains earlier in his Formula 1 life. Perhaps curing the leg and shoulder aches is what has unleashed this extra level of brilliance...

    Dominant victories aren't possible with Alonso's current equipment, and he never had more than a few seconds' breathing space at Hockenheim. Sebastian Vettel had his hands full with a challenge from Michael Schumacher in the opening corners, but the Mercedes didn't have the pace to continue the battle of the German legends for long, and soon Vettel was lurking in Alonso's mirrors.

    -Formula 1 - Season 2012 - - 1342995655 The top three formed a train © XPB
    It got particularly close in the middle stint, when the Ferrari had a tougher time on medium Pirellis than its pursuers. And that was now pursuers plural, for Jenson Button was joining in the lead battle.

    Button had been increasingly certain in recent weeks that the woes that had kept him off the podium since April were over, and he just needed a change of luck to prove his pace was back with a vengeance. Wet qualifying at Hockenheim brought more tyre issues, but McLaren and its drivers were so confident in the upgraded car's potential, they were still eyeing victory from sixth and seventh on the grid.

    An early puncture for Lewis Hamilton meant it was Button who was demonstrating McLaren's gains. He sliced past Nico Hulkenberg and Schumacher early on, then closed in on the leaders after the first pitstops.

    He had a little helping hand from Hamilton. A lap down after his dramas, but proceeding rapidly on fresh tyres, Hamilton passed Vettel's Red Bull and spent a while between the two leaders, leaving Vettel peeved.

    "That was not nice of him," Vettel complained. "I don't see the point why he's trying to race us. If he wants to go fast he can drop back, find a gap and go fast there. But it's a bit stupid to disturb the leaders."

    Alonso admitted having Hamilton as a buffer was pretty handy, and said he would have jumped out of the way and let him go had the McLaren tried a move.

    -Formula 1 - Season 2012 - - 1342995683 Lightning pit work was crucial for Button © LAT
    Button was the first of the leaders to make his final pitstop, coming in on lap 40. Alonso and Vettel both covered him by pitting next time around, but that was not enough to stop Vettel losing out to the McLaren, which left the German cursing Hamilton's earlier presence even more.

    Although at first Button closed down Alonso, as the chequered flag neared it was the McLaren coming under heavier pressure. And that would lead to more Vettel/McLaren angst, as the world champion overtook around the outside of the hairpin on the penultimate lap, but made substantial use of the run-off area to do so. Vettel said he wasn't sure where Button was and hadn't wanted to close the door on him, and that he gained an acceleration advantage not through taking a wide line off the track, but because the McLaren was losing traction on worn tyres. Button said nothing... but bore a grimace. The stewards duly ruled that Vettel had gained an unfair advantage and bestowed a time penalty that dropped him to fifth.

    That elevated Kimi Raikkonen into the top three after making good progress up the order from 10th on the grid in his Lotus. But the big movers of the race were the Saubers - which hacked through from 12th and 17th to what would become fourth and sixth for Kamui Kobayashi and Sergio Perez respectively, showing great race pace. Given the excitement over Perez's achievements this year, a career-best fourth (after Vettel's penalty) was well-timed for Kobayashi.

    Those moving in the other direction included Schumacher and Hulkenberg, neither of whom had the race pace to carry their qualifying achievements forward. Both Mercedes three-stopped, and that helped Schumacher finish on Perez's tail in seventh, and Nico Rosberg come through from 21st to 10th, between the Force Indias of Hulkenberg and Paul di Resta.

    Hulkenberg finished right behind the man who won the previous grand prix: Red Bull's Mark Webber. The Australian's assessment was blunt: "I had no pace today and wasn't quick."

    -Formula 1 - Season 2012 - - 1342995727 This puncture ruined Hamilton's day © LAT
    Hamilton eventually retired due to damage from the puncture, which was sustained on some of the debris from the various first-lap incidents that sent Felipe Massa, Bruno Senna and Romain Grosjean towards the pits for repairs. They rejoined to finish 12th, 17th and 18th. Senna's Williams team-mate Pastor Maldonado also collected debris, sliding from sixth to 15th in his wounded car as a consequence.

    Toro Rosso had the sort of race it usually has these days and finished 13th and 14th with Daniel Ricciardo and Jean-Eric Vergne.

    Vitaly Petrov's Caterham was quick enough to stay ahead of Senna and Grosjean in 16th, but team-mate Heikki Kovalainen was only 19th after a nose change.

    In the tail of the field battle, a tough race for Timo Glock got worse in the closing laps as differential problems developed, and he finished behind Marussia team-mate Charles Pic and HRT's Pedro de la Rosa in 22nd, ahead of only de la Rosa's team-mate Narain Karthikeyan.
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    Capitalism
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    F YEAH KIDS! MAKE WAY FOR THE KING!.

    EPIC RACE! THE race to SEE the cars and driving on the edge. HOLY MOLY WE WON! YES YES YES YES YES!

    YeeeeHAWWW!.

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    @genius83

    Absolutely, Mclaren did it on purpose. While there are many examples of drivers unlapping themselves but it usually happens when the leader is in a comfortable position and usually lets a lapped car behind him go past. Here, we had a very close three way fight for the lead of the GP. There is some talk of Hamilton unlapping himself and if there was a safety car he might have been able to score a point or two. It's a silly argument because behind the safety car, the lapped cars are allowed to unlap themselves before resumption.

    Vettel's penalty was hardly ever in any doubt, especially when you look at the footage from the camera which was stationed behind the hairpain. It was made worse because it looked more blatant as the commemorators were saying at the time and Johnny Herbert who has been a race steward at a few races. They will of course be biased always because it involved Button.

    As for what you suggested, changing their positions at the end, Button second and Vettel demoted to third as a penalty; that my friend is not a penalty. If anything-that would encourage other drivers to try similar moves in the hope that they will get away with it and if they don't, then at the most what will happen is they will get their original position back. The rule change goes back to Oz 2010, where Vettel passed one of the Mclarens around the outside by going off track. Things were clarified then and further clarified after Rosberg's antics in Bahrain.

    Massa, did you watch qualifying? He was ahead of him team mate at the crucial time in Q2, failed to set a time good enough to go through, blocked his team mate and both cars nearly made contact. He ended up in 14th place as a result and hopefully you saw how he lost his front wing. On lap one before he had even turned into the first corner against a Toro Rosso! What was he doing, winning the race on lap 1? It takes a different mind set to come through the field.

    The problem is that we are only limited to reading the english press and participate in those forums. There is a general bias there against Alonso because of his Mclaren time and " supposed " rivalry with Hamilton. There are a couple of things at play, one is the whole rivalry thing i mentioned and the apparent bias. A small example, they grudgingly refer to Alonso as the " most complete " driver in F1. What does that mean exactly? Most complete, does that not mean quite simply as the best driver in F1 or the best racing driver in the world? I can't think of anything that " the most complete " driver could mean, but how many use that for him? It's hard to digest for a lot i know

    The second thing from those websites and forums that one gets is this constant talk about how Massa is or has been treated. How exactly has he been treated? Again for those people it's a much deeper thing and very important to say Massa is treated badly etc because if they don't say that and actually come around to saying that Massa has been annihilated by Fernando Alonso for two and half years then it makes Hamilton's world title look even less worthy because he beat this very man on the last lap and last corner of the last GP to clinch his one and only title so far. Had that Toyota been a hundred yards ahead it would have been almost on the straight and Hamilton would have been title less. All that does not make for a good reading to say their pride and joy had such a hard time beating Massa and the same guy has been made to look second rate since he got a new team mate, someone they already don't like. So it's best to keep the forums going by starting one thread after another and talk about how badly Massa was/is treated.

    Fact of the matter is, Massa is not good enough to drive a car which has a narrow operating window and he has been quite pathetic for more than two years now and clearly does not deserve a seat in a front line F1 team. Ferrari are shafted because there is no suitable alternate. Had that idiot Kubica not had his crash, he would have been in the second Ferrari. Webber signed on for one more season thinking he would get the team's backing slightly more that way in his title bid. That leaves no one except Heikki and a few young drivers. So that brings us to Luca Badoer, i bet he would have finished 12th too like Massa did, but he is acknowledged as an amazing development driver. If only one Ferrari is scoring and the other finishing out of the points regularly then why not have a driver in that car who can treat the whole weekend as a test and help with more development Okay i wrote the whole Luca Badoer part as a joke but most of it is true.


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      -Formula 1 - Season 2012 - - quote icon Originally Posted by m_waqas -Formula 1 - Season 2012 - - viewpost right
      whats with on-podium interviews? anyone likes them?.. i hate.



      I didn't like it either
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      whats with on-podium interviews? anyone likes them?.. i hate.
    Hate it all, starting with the interviews on the podium and especially those flags pasted on card board boxes.

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    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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