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    Lightbulb Extinct Vehicles of Pakistan!

    It was Saturday evening, i was going to G.P.O when i saw a Marcopolo bus of army (or may be PTDC) which reminded me of something and now i'm posting it rite here.

    I still remember the days when first motorway M2 was built in 97, i was 8 years old. From 97 to 99, i traveled a lot in coaches with my family. Since i was very sharp observer and very much interested in vehicles, i saw many Mercedes, Marcopolo and some other coaches which were NOT there before 1997. (Original pix are not available, just for reference so you can recognize the vehicles)
    I traveled with my uncle in new khan's mercedes frm lahore to isb twice.
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    (It took me more than an hour to search the exact model and the name of the bus thanks to Google and my excellent research techniques It is Mercedes Tourismo 1993-2001!!! BOLO, AB YAAD AYEA? )

    I also traveled in Marcopolo (Rehber travels) from Sahiwal to Lahore with my grandma.
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    (This is longer version, with toilet and has 8 wheeler, ours was w/o toilet, different color and 6 wheeler, but front lites are same, it's Marcopolo Dina, 1990s. New khan had at least 10 coaches)

    But after 2000, we traveled more in trains than coaches. Now last year, I went to South Punjab by Skyways, and i could see just Japanese Nishi high-deck, no Mercedes, Marcopolo or any of those buses i saw during that time. I came back by Niazi, same situation. They had desi Hino and Nishi. Skyways has now running Daewoo as luxary coach.

    And all the way on motorway, I unable to spot a single bus of type I mentioned, until today when i finally saw one in my own city.

    Now im very curious to find the answers of few questions:

    Where did these buses come from?

    Mercedese and Marcopolo were RHD, may be from uk, but im sure i did see this type of coach which were gone through LHD to RHD conversion because
    Extinct Vehicles of Pakistan! -393898 (This time I unable to find the exact model, but it's close sister and do appreciate me for my research skills actually there was totally 2 or 3 buses running between lhr to isb, and whenever I saw them, they were on the move, couldn't read the name)

    I noticed the driver's door was looking like passenger door and vice versa. Although i was a kid, yet very smart to detect that thing.
    I think it could be Renault or MAN.

    What i guess, prime minister allowed limited number of duty free coaches for motorway because he knew that our missile buses were too bad for motorway. What do you think?


    Where have the buses gone?

    We still have 70s bedford with coaster bodies. Even hell condition vehicles are still on the road, so what made them disappeared?

    They could do the engine swap, but dumping or grounding a new and expensive coach doesn't make any sense in country like pakistan!

    Or did they export these buses to???

    Still doubt, Afghanistan and Iran drive LHDs, trade with india was very limited during that time and they have Tata, why would they import 3rd hand pakistani coaches?

    So it's like the death of a young person.
    These questions have been haunting me for 3 days

    And this is not all over, this has happened to some other vehicles too!

    There were green three wheeler long chases rickshaws used to commute between Gulshan Ravi and morh Samanabad Lahore in 1994-5, just like this one.
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    (Original pix not available)

    And what happened to this?
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    (original pix, introduced in mid 2000s, couldn't spot it again while I visit Lahore in 2009 and 2011)

    Same thing for 1990s ford transit vans which were there in twin cities during late 90s but couldn't be seen after 2001.
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    So i want replies and if you know same thing happened to some vehicles in past, please do share it!

    It's all about to share and discuss EXTINCT vehicles of pakistan those came and suddenly disappeared.

    Please don't mention anything like Moris, because it comes in vintage and classic.

    However, you can include any classic which was there during 70s or 80s but disappeared soon after it was introduced.
    Adam Revo and TMC are also eligible for 'extinct vehicles' of pakistan category.
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    I hope now you have got my point

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    Samajh nahin ai par maza bara aya
    If travelling was free............ You know what i mean

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifoo_786 View Post
    Samajh nahin ai par maza bara aya
    Maximum logon se me yahi expect kar raha hun

    Chalo aap ko aasan bhasha me samjata hun, for most of the people who are not monster like me

    baat yeh hai ki 1990s me Pakistan me kuch coaches hoti thein, lekan ab ghaib ho gayi hen. kia chakkar hai? hum to zang lagi bedford ko nai chorte, itni khobsorat coaches q ghaib ho gayi?

    Aur important baat, agr sarkari hoti tab yeh baat theak thi, yeh sub buses private companies (New Khan road runners, skyways wagera) k paas then. phir aisa kia hua k yeh buses ab mystry ban chuki hen!

    I hope ab samaj aa jaye gi, 90% logo ko!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceSultan View Post
    Maximum logon se me yahi expect kar raha hun

    Chalo aap ko aasan bhasha me samjata hun, for most of the people who are not monster like me

    baat yeh hai ki 1990s me Pakistan me kuch coaches hoti thein, lekan ab ghaib ho gayi hen. kia chakkar hai? hum to zang lagi bedford ko nai chorte, itni khobsorat coaches q ghaib ho gayi?

    Aur important baat, agr sarkari hoti tab yeh baat theak thi, yeh sub buses private companies (New Khan road runners, skyways wagera) k paas then. phir aisa kia hua k yeh buses ab mystry ban chuki hen!

    I hope ab samaj aa jaye gi, 90% logo ko!!!
    Ab samajh a gai !
    Yeh asaan basha pahaly use kar leni thi !
    Par ithay to main bachpan say aik hi type ki coaches aur Buses dekh raha hunn. Bedford Bus to Road ki shan hy ! 7 ghantay ka safar 14 ghantay main karti hain. I,ve an intresting story but can,t write here
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    Quote Originally Posted by ifoo_786 View Post
    Ab samajh a gai !
    Yeh asaan basha pahaly use kar leni thi !
    Par ithay to main bachpan say aik hi type ki coaches aur Buses dekh raha hunn. Bedford Bus to Road ki shan hy ! 7 ghantay ka safar 14 ghantay main karti hain. I,ve an intresting story but can,t write here
    I accept I made a mistake, because I'm a writer I wrote a long story!

    Well, bachpan se agar aap meri tarha hote (buhat kam log aise hote hen) to aap zaroor dekhte.

    Na ji, thorey paise ziada kharch karo to Bedford ka boycott kar k coach me travel kar liya karo we used to travel in Red and white road liners (Hino), 5 hours from Lahore to Islamabad and 3 from Lahore to Sahiwal.

    These road liners still there, but with altered body!
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    I've seen the Marcopolo and Mercedes-Benz here in Karachi, Pakistan Navy uses these for transport of their men. Really comfortable buses imo.

    Maybe the Khan Transport and Skyways were facing some issues regarding maintenance and electronic faults (which these buses are prone to) and then had to stick to what was being used more commonly, which will be the Nishi and Daewoo here.

    These transport firms concentrate on cost cutting and that's exactly what must have happened in this case
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    Default For bike loverz!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceSultan View Post
    I accept I made a mistake, because I'm a writer I wrote a long story!

    Well, bachpan se agar aap meri tarha hote (buhat kam log aise hote hen) to aap zaroor dekhte.

    Na ji, thorey paise ziada kharch karo to Bedford ka boycott kar k coach me travel kar liya karo we used to travel in Red and white road liners (Hino), 5 hours from Lahore to Islamabad and 3 from Lahore to Sahiwal.

    These road liners still there, but with altered body!
    Brother in 2007 i went on a college trip to Murree on Bedford !
    6,7 Ghantay ka safar hay yahan say Aur Bedford nay hamain Pohanchaya 14 Ghantoon main at highest speed of 50kmph ! Koi aisa Chowck nahin tha islamabad main jahan say chalan na hua ho uska ! Tab say qasam uthai hui hay Paidal chalay jana ay Par Bedford Wara nahin khati !
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    Quote Originally Posted by rohaansaeed View Post
    I've seen the Marcopolo and Mercedes-Benz here in Karachi, Pakistan Navy uses these for transport of their men. Really comfortable buses imo.

    Maybe the Khan Transport and Skyways were facing some issues regarding maintenance and electronic faults (which these buses are prone to) and then had to stick to what was being used more commonly, which will be the Nishi and Daewoo here.

    These transport firms concentrate on cost cutting and that's exactly what must have happened in this case
    Thanks for +ve response!

    Yeah, Pak Navy have a small fleet of Marcopolo coaches here in Islamabad too!

    The buses are sure very comfortable now the Daewoo high-deck is the only vehicle which can compete the Marcopolo and Merc. Tourismo, but it's way expensive than Skyways

    And yes, I agree the maintenance issues, but the question is; where the buses have gone?

    Sold to kabadia?
    I'll defiantly ask the New Khan on my next intercity trip. If someone is in transport business for more than a decade, he must have known the mystry!

    Merc. Tourismo is totally extinct, don't know if you've seen one in Karachi. Marcopolo still remains with TDPC, ARMY and NAVY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ifoo_786 View Post
    Brother in 2007 i went on a college trip to Murree on Bedford !
    6,7 Ghantay ka safar hay yahan say Aur Bedford nay hamain Pohanchaya 14 Ghantoon main at highest speed of 50kmph ! Koi aisa Chowck nahin tha islamabad main jahan say chalan na hua ho uska ! Tab say qasam uthai hui hay Paidal chalay jana ay Par Bedford Wara nahin khati !
    But this is the plus point, your driver was clever, otherwise reckless drivers (charsi ustaad) accelerate the bedford to 80kmph! But now they are also near extinction because they are heavy (more fuel consumption) and parts are difficult to find!
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    @rohaansaeed
    Sir pakwheels magazine ko mere gally daal kar aap kahan bhag gaye ho???

    Btw isn't it an interesting thing for PW magazine?
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    One main Problem of New khans of now a days is that they are made locally ! And they are Dangerous !
    Aik to Chaltay Terhay hain dosra Crossing kay waqt aik side pay jhuk jatay hain !
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    Quote Originally Posted by ifoo_786 View Post
    One main Problem of New khans of now a days is that they are made locally ! And they are Dangerous !
    Aik to Chaltay Terhay hain dosra Crossing kay waqt aik side pay jhuk jatay hain !
    Exactly! because of POOR suspension
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    And what about other vehicles?

    3 wheeler? (I doubt if anyone even remember it) Yellow 2ble decker bus in Lahore? TMC taxi? is it still in Karachi?
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    i remember marcopolo they were a hit before daewoo
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceSultan View Post
    Thanks for +ve response!
    And yes, I agree the maintenance issues, but the question is;[B][COLOR="Red"] where the buses have gone?
    According to some of my contacts, transport operators who were operating the imported buses throughout the country had taken loans from different banks and they were paying heavy instalments to the banks, due to a hike in oil and fuel prices the transporters were on the brink of bankruptcy, along with this the maintenance and parts were being too much of a burden for them, these buses had very delicate technology (complicated for our transporters) and they were unable to sort things out if a malfunction occurred. The main drawback was the suspension design and electronics that confused the transporters and this was where they faced their main problems.

    All of these factors forced the operators to opt for buses that were comparatively cheaper and had low maintenance costs. Some of these buses still stand parked at certain 'addaas' or lots, others were impounded by banks.

    There's various lots in Karachi where I've seen imported buses totally deserted. These include buses by manufacturers such as Mercedes and MAN.


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    Sir pakwheels magazine ko mere gally daal kar aap kahan bhag gaye ho???
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    hahh!! What great thing U've Posted!! I Remember the Marcopolo & New Khan's Roadliner!!

    I can't forget the Trip that i Traveled on Marcopolo With my family in 1999 ! That was amazing
    Pakistan needs MaSsive Over-HAULING!! So either stay or Just Leave it!!

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    Transport in Pakistan is a Mafia. They dont allow new people. So its tougher for them to be in existance . Revo was discontinued. I also remember GTS !
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    Quote Originally Posted by capsat View Post
    How cute !
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