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    Default diesel fuel consumption

    my 95 MY 3000cc mercedes benz diesel has returned me 1104 kms in 71 litres of diesel fuel.

    diesel fuel is still the cheapest mode of transport, and yet I meet people that say, diesel is expensive - pffft

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    Quote Originally Posted by amirhasan View Post
    Zulfiqar bhi can you tell me why diesel enginese gave so much black smoke ? is it normal or abnormal behaviour and can we make diesel engine smoke free ? i have heared from mechanics that there is no way to make them smoke free and they will always gave black smoke , please explain it , Thanks
    black smoke is too much fuel in too little air, this can be caused by a number of factors, including timing, health, air induction, etc, when an engine is manufactured it pretty smoke free, if you have mechanics telling you that they will smoke no matter what, you need to find well qualified mechanics who actually know what they are talking about.
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    @xulfiqar
    MA thats brillient. my 190D gives about 18km/L. i didnt notice the time i spent on the highway and city but gotta say, i just luv it :p il do a rerun and check
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    ab her koi Xulfiqar bhai jesa cheetah tou nhi hota na :p

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    True.. economy comes with diesels only

    I get 9.6-9.8KM/L from my old beaten BJ44 Landcruiser with a 2B diesel with a tiny miny turbo installed I do get a little extra smoke that im trying to figure out.. fueling or timing.. timing is on the higher side coz i hear a sharp change in engine sound as i rev higher.. experimentation to continue till i figure that out
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmeerUsman View Post
    My Indus 2.0D model 2001 gives 16 km per litre in mixed (long +short)driving without AC after now that it is 11 years old. I have calculated it many times. In the past I owned a Nissan Sunny with diesel engine CD-17 and it was very astonishing for me that it gave me nearly 22km per litre on the average. diesel is still cheaper than petrol in my thinking. But 2.0D indus is discontinued by Toyota. I dont know why is this step taken.
    Indus is still offering 2.OD versions.
    My uncle bought a 2.OD saloon SR last month.

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    I'm still very much seeking a 1.4L d4d toyota...would love to own and drive that. eco n power both in the same package.
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    What sort of mileage are the new 2.0D's giving?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getafix View Post
    What sort of mileage are the new 2.0D's giving?
    the new 2.0D? you mean the decade(s) old 2.0D 2c engine....well its giving around 14-16kms depending on health and driving route. Within city 14 at best.

    As for toyota's newer gen 2.0d4d , well they fetch an easy 18kms.
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    i used to own 2.0D saloon 2009...it give around 550 to 570km in one tank like 47-48L at the most, 95% within city/urban drive....now its my home car as i hate the sound n low performance....toyota indus shud atleast bring 1.4 d4d 90hp 6 spd manual.....i dont know why they r still continuing on crappy loud 2C engine on latest corolla...is it coz of our diesel doesnt meet euro 3 or 4 standard?
    My lugnuts require more torque than your Vtec can put out...

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    its not our fuel, its our market - where to you expect people would service their cars, and I can bet the amount toyota would charge for spares or repair procedures would immediately force everyone to install the 2C diesel again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    its not our fuel, its our market - where to you expect people would service their cars, and I can bet the amount toyota would charge for spares or repair procedures would immediately force everyone to install the 2C diesel again.
    heard alot that diesel gets better mileage but its maintenance is very costly and acquire alot of care ? whats ur stance on it??
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    last year i visited Spain n Turkey....all of their taxis were 90% diesel....i sat in one of the taxi n didnt know it was diesel coz there was no sounds n smell of diesel..even i cudnt see the black smoke unlike our 2c corolla....anyhow i wanted to say tht if these toyota bring new technology diesel engine such as d4d...i think it will be hot seller like GLI corolla
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    Quote Originally Posted by buntu View Post
    heard alot that diesel gets better mileage but its maintenance is very costly and acquire alot of care ? whats ur stance on it??
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    last year i visited Spain n Turkey....all of their taxis were 90% diesel....i sat in one of the taxi n didnt know it was diesel coz there was no sounds n smell of diesel..even i cudnt see the black smoke unlike our 2c corolla....anyhow i wanted to say tht if these toyota bring new technology diesel engine such as d4d...i think it will be hot seller like GLI corolla
    diesels are very long life engines, and require less maintenance than their petrol cousins - the problem in Pakistan is ustaadjee trying to milk money from the owners, they have one gauge of diesel engine health, "backpressure measured at idle" Its wrong - they judge oil by its color and slick between fingers, its wrong.. You need proper analysis tools to determine a problem.

    Yes we have old diesel technology at hand but that does not mean its doomed to be smoky etc, in correct tune it will be silent and clean. The newer DI engines have more torque and less noise but have a number of added technology which our ustaads dont understand and our owners do not want to spend money on correct diagnosis, their drivers are their best service advisers who then pour API CE grade oil in them and wonder why their turbocharger bearings gave away, they blame fuel quality etc etc. while the fault is their own.
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    what about 1C engine?!?!?! it must be economical!!!
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    diesel is a dream but these schmucks sitting in honda toyota suzuki only understand 'danda' like the rest of our nation. Unless some legislation is done, they wont move off their lazy @$$es.

    Honda may be looking to introduce a new compact car to Pak. I'd advise them to source the new 1.4 diesel engine they are developing for the indian market and pair it with an auto tranny for a swift-sized hatchback. It will knock out all its competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahsanonline View Post
    diesel is a dream but these schmucks sitting in honda toyota suzuki only understand 'danda' like the rest of our nation. Unless some legislation is done, they wont move off their lazy @$$es.

    Honda may be looking to introduce a new compact car to Pak. I'd advise them to source the new 1.4 diesel engine they are developing for the indian market and pair it with an auto tranny for a swift-sized hatchback. It will knock out all its competition.
    I think you are not understanding the idea behind it,,, The technology is there and is very robust but there is a problem of user error - which will cause sales downfall. So if unless the user is educated nothing will change.

    e.g. the people who own diesel cars have a HOT engine washed by cold high pressure water, the pump warps and goes bad and they think "saala deezal kharab milta hai" - How about you not shutdown windows from the start menu and just pull the plug everytime, then say that microsoft is bad because windows sucks.
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    @zulfiqar....ive bought an old accord 04 2.2 diesel here in uk. This is the first time i bought myself a diesel. The specs on the websites said it shud give 39 miles 2 the galon but this one is giving me abt 30. I figure tht in the 138000 miles of its life its not got much love frm the previous owners. What all services shud i carry out now 2 improve its fuel economy? If it were a petrol car id change the oil, spark plugs, oil air n fuel filters,get a fresh tune up,get the throtle body cleaned. But as i don hav any
    experience with diesel engines so i need guidance here. Thanks.

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    to Mr.Xulfiqar

    Sir kindly suggest me the oil for 2.0d 2006
    and stavic 2.7d

    and kindly rate my oil DELO GOLD for these engines

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