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    Lightbulb Toyota vs honda vs suzuki real take down

    The main reason for this thread is to discuss the pros and cons of all 1.3L Pakistani Cars.

    A. Toyota Corolla 1.3L

    B. Suzuki Swift 1.3L

    C. Honda City 1.3L

    Following are the points:
    1.Acceleration

    2.Top Speed

    3.Safty

    4.Fuel consimption

    5.On ground reality which one is faster

    6.Spare Parts avaiablity and price

    7.Breaking

    8.and more if my brothers want to add.

    Thank You
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    Nice post

    Quote Originally Posted by lazer123 View Post
    SWIFT......... Powerfull with great pick bt not for long drives and off-roading...
    CITY........... Good car with great pick bt very expensive for spair parts and parts are only available in major cities.
    GLI............. Perfect car for pakistan very very comfortable gives perfect drive on bumpy roads as-well parts are available every where
    and rates are cheap then other options........ If u want pick then go for Reborn or Altis.

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    drove a new swift the other day, totally disappointed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    drove a new swift the other day, totally disappointed.
    points of your disappointment?

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    Got my new City Aspire on 14th Jan.
    I usually drives City(my car) and Gli 2010(Chachu's car in village).
    Acceleration:
    City accelerates than Gli because of power to weight ratio.
    Fuel Economy:
    No doubt city has better fuel economy. Currently giving me 13km/l in city and Corolla about 10km/l.
    Comfort:
    Corolla has more space but city is more comfortable because city's seats are better than corolla and you easily adjusts in the seat. When 6 person's are traveling in the corolla it's ok, but in the case of city it's not ok at all.
    Features:
    No doubt City has more features. My city has Navigation rear camera,etc. and company fitted rims but there is no such ind of feature in corolla, even corolla's price is higher than city aspire. But corolla Gli has a low quality CD player with two low quality speakers. While city has 4 speaker's which gives very good sound + base.
    Suspension:
    City has very very hard suspension which is totally crap. My city is 190km driven and i can't imagine it to drive outside Lahore because of bumpy roads. While corolla has very good suspension and i think that's why corolla is very famous in Pakistan because it can bear the hardships of Pakistani roads but city cannot.
    Conclusion:
    City for Urban Areas.
    Corolla for Rural Areas.

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    My city Aspire with 5 people easily crosses the speed breakers. The answer is YES.
    But i don't know about simple city road clearance, my friend has simple city (no-aspire) model and he always complains that his car touches the speed breaker, he has 2012 model.
    Aspire comes with 15" rims, it may be the reason!

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    A detailed review by DesiDriver, nice man you really put an effort.
    I also got Suzuki Swift for home use and recently bought Honda City Aspire 2013, agreed with your awsesome observtion about these cars.


    Quote Originally Posted by DesiDriver View Post
    Salam everyone!
    Long time reader, first time poster -

    I have had experiences with all of these cars, I personally own a silver Swift, my older brother owns a city aspire, and I rented a gli a while back (before I bought my swift). Apart from the *terrible* suzuki service centres in islamabad, I love the swift.

    In response to your question -
    A. Acceleration - I feel that swift accelerates from stop fastest, followed by city, with corolla at last. Though if you consider acceleration in the range of 70-90 km/hr, city is much faster, and keeps going solidly. Corolla doesn't accelerate as much as either cars (talking about the 1.3 here!)

    B. Top speed -
    On book -

    Swift - 180 km/hr is the limit on the dial
    City - 220 km/hr on the dial
    Corolla - 220 km/hr on the dial as far as i remember.

    Actual -
    Swift - I have personally maxed out the swift on the motorway.
    City - Goes solidly beyond 180. Have not done it personally, but a friend has.
    Corolla - I have taken it past 180 km/hr, but on that point I stopped looking at the speedometer, but the car was still accelerating, albeit very slowly.

    Fuel Consumption -
    On petrol -
    1. City - My brother gets around 14-15 km/l solidly on his car. He has a mildly aggressive style of driving. Though according to him if he drives it well then he gets 15-17. (He uses Islamabad Highway on his way to work, so that factors in).
    2. Swift - I get around 13 km/l usually on city driving. Long drives will result in around 15-16 km/l. I have had only 3 proper long drives till now.
    3. Corolla - I did not drive the corolla much on petrol, but when I did it was definitely less than 13 km/l.

    Safety -
    While driving -
    1. Have to say that swift is much more easier to maneuver out of dangerous situations. It provides a much better front view, and less blind spots. I've steered myself out of a few pretty bad situations, and I know I can count on the steering
    2. City - I cannot see the front of the car unless I really hug the steering wheel, even though i'm over 6' tall.
    3. Corolla - This car is the beefiest of all, and can be hard to take out of a dangerous situation, given it's comparatively larger size, but at least I can see the front of the car.

    During a Collision (God forbid) -
    1. Corolla - It has mighty big crumple zones, and that will restrain the force of the collision.
    2. City - Again a sedan has advantages over hatchbacks when it comes to particular kind of car collisions, example from the back.
    3. Swift - In an accident, Swift is not the safest of cars to be in. Although frontal impact will result in similar experience as the city, a rear collision will be more forceful upon the passengers.

    Note that side collisions are much the same on all of the cars.

    Which is faster? -
    Hmm... it depends on your situation.
    City driving (no pun intended ) in a case of outrun or drag race with less than a km to cover -

    1. Swift - Given the hard acceleration and ability to zip around traffic it has a much more chance of outrunning in traffic, and the hard acceleration gives it an advantage in drags.
    2. City - City falls short of swift just a tad because of its lesser acceleration in the lower speeds.
    3. Corolla - the 1.3 isn't meant for racing or anything, you'd get the 1.6 MT if you'd want any of that

    Long races/Laps
    1. City - it's goes beyond 180 km/hr, you can't press on to the swift to get any faster.
    2. Corolla - In the top ranges City has better acceleration but corolla isn't far behind
    3. Swift - That speedometer has a limit , can't get past 180 km/hr. That means your left behind 11 meters (40 km/hr difference in top speed) every second of that race once the city or corolla passes you .


    Spare parts and availability -
    All cars have spare parts actively available in major cities but no doubt Corolla gli has more spare parts in the market than any other car.

    I like to compare the customer service of the companies and it's as follows -
    1. Definitely City, you feel respected when you go to any centre. Everything on time as promised everytime. Always something refreshing to drink at the waiting lounge in any service centre.
    2. Corolla - Very varied experience depending which service center to go to, but generally a good response.
    3. Swift - Extremely terrible customer service from suzuki, need to learn a thing or two from the japanese. Almost never fulfill their promises.

    Braking -
    1. City - although when I initially bought the swift, it felt better than any city, but as it got past 10k on the odo, I started believing city is better.
    2. Swift - Surprising from suzuki tbh, they should improve brakes on their other cars as well. Have had a friend nearly lose legs to a cultus crash.
    3. Corolla it may have been bad servicing on my rental, but I hated the brakes, and felt they could give away at any time. Also I'd like to add that around 7 years back I had an accident on the motorway with my family when the brakes gave way. Was a terrifying experience.

    Read on if you want more on my experience with the swift ----

    Factors that came into my decision were -

    i. I am a student, need a quick zippy car.
    ii. No need for a trunk (we have other cars at home for that). Also having a trunk was negative because where i study, you have to get your car checked at security gates, opening up trunk each time is annoying, and you can't always trust guards .
    iii. Comfortable
    iv. Immobilizer

    I was initially set on getting a 2011 Vitz, but after a friends' Vitz started having engine problems, I thought against it. In a hurry I bought the Vitz, because I was shelling out money on a rented car. My initial impressions were -

    i. Hard seats (took a bit of time to get used to)
    ii. Interior seemed too dark, (Vitz 2011 has a pretty nice interior).
    iii. no bells and whistles like the vitz

    it seemed pretty bare. Anyhow, after a week or so, I started really liking the car, but when I went to back to the suzuki showroom for my 1k service/check up it seemed to hit me hard in the face of their terrible service compared to honda and shahnawaz.

    initially my mileage was around 11-12 km/l. Now I get anything between 12 and 15 depending on how i drive. (around 18k on the odo).

    I had my car insured within the first week. got my regular services done, etc. at around 7k on the odo, a rickshaw at 6th road crashed into my front bumper, causing some damage, anyhow got it repaired under insurance (was a slight hedge up, not much). but suzuki guys took 4 days to fix up what I could get done in a day outside.

    Have to say city aspire has an good quality interior, absolutely love it. I'm thinking of getting leatherite and foam to improve my car's seats.

    Thanks for reading all of this
    regards.

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    @ poster u r saying in an other thread that all locals cars r crap..................
    and still u r intrested................
    what is that
    What an Idea SIR G.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaudhary9 View Post
    points of your disappointment?
    Well i noted many, but dont want to be part of an argument. I ll only state the ones i believe most people will agree with.

    1) Quality of materials used is pathetic.
    2) The car has too much power to contain. The chassis and suspension cannot handle the power properly.
    3) Headlight visibility is a joke. (though it can fixed easily)
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    bump still no conclusion

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFaixy View Post
    bump still no conclusion

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    What kinda conclusion you need? Read the three pages, its city all the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asdkhan94 View Post
    My city Aspire with 5 people easily crosses the speed breakers. The answer is YES.
    But i don't know about simple city road clearance, my friend has simple city (no-aspire) model and he always complains that his car touches the speed breaker, he has 2012 model.
    Aspire comes with 15" rims, it may be the reason!
    i also have the same issue (with aspire), from the second day i bought that car, its one of the major issue.
    abra-ca-dab-ra........!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakwheelsimb View Post
    The main reason for this thread is to discuss the pros and cons of all 1.3L Pakistani Cars.

    A. Toyota Corolla 1.3L

    B. Suzuki Swift 1.3L

    C. Honda City 1.3L

    Following are the points:
    1.Acceleration

    2.Top Speed

    3.Safty

    4.Fuel consimption

    5.On ground reality which one is faster

    6.Spare Parts avaiablity and price

    7.Breaking

    8.and more if my brothers want to add.

    Thank You
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    i never drove a swift, so i m only comparing city and corolla:

    1.
    city: good acceleration.
    corolla: not enough to satisfy, feels like underpower.

    2.
    City: hits 160 km/hr and still not losing the hope.
    corolla: 140 km/hr on the same track.

    3.
    city: have all the safety measures.
    corolla: no safety measures at all in xli, gli has some safety measures but they didnt work when needed.

    4.
    both cars almost have the same.

    5.
    Honda all the way...

    6.
    city: very expensive parts and difficult to find.
    corolla: (baji 100rs ki sale, 100rs ki sale, pehle aao pehle pao) u know what i mean.

    7.
    city: not that much good as expected, sometime feels like is dafa nahi ruke gi but in the end it stops.
    corolla: xli's brakes (not good), gli's are same like city's.

    8.
    city: it comes with A\T tranny (a BIG + point),
    with 5 people sitting in the car, its not comfortable anymore,
    dont have a good ground clearance, it touches every single speed breaker of karachi,
    suspensions are very hard.

    corolla: no concept of A\t tranny in 1.3L category,
    littile bit spacious than city,
    hard to drive in traffic zones(ranchor line, saddar, nazimabad, etc),
    good ground clearence,
    comfortable on bumpy roads.
    abra-ca-dab-ra........!

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    Wheres Liana, Nissan Sunny and Lancer??

    Toyota vs honda vs suzuki real take down -1132360Toyota vs honda vs suzuki real take down -1132361
    65KW/88PS = 87.1 BHP




    Toyota vs honda vs suzuki real take down -1132362Toyota vs honda vs suzuki real take down -1132363
    64KW/87PS = 85.76BHP
    81KW/110PS = 108.54BHP




    Toyota vs honda vs suzuki real take down -1132364Toyota vs honda vs suzuki real take down -1132365
    66KW = 88.44BHP

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    Default My review on the cars posted by the poster..

    City vs Corolla

    Engine:City wins Sporty.. but corolla has adequate power too.

    Brakes: City is better, corolla is also good by all definitions - better tires improve braking a lot! its a heavy car and needs good tires.

    Suspension: Corolla wins.. more comfortable, more road clearance

    Handling: City wins, much nimbler

    Interior: Corolla wins, city's black dashborad is very cheap and needs a lot of maintinence, materials used are crappy.. toyota is much better here.

    Spaceious
    : Corolla wins

    Grace/appeal: City has a little less road pressence as compared to a tasetefully done corolla xli/gli. however it is fully on personal liking...

    Spares: toyota wins in spares availability and prices

    Resale: Toyota wins

    Crash safety: Toyota wins
    ^^ This one is a technical one... Honda does a lot better in the latest frontal small overlap tests...
    but city has less protection in case of rear collission.. (Thai honda to be specific) and most of the injuries to occupants is incase of being rear ended, not head on collision.


    Swift is a different class... Its a smaller car, Its just fine in every aspect. nice package.. but can't be discussed with sedans. Its quite sporty and powerful... has some good 89.78 horses.. a very nice package... but im unsure of suzuki's real quality and quality control in the long run... I mean when u have so many other options in the same range...

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    why swift its a hatchback why not vitz 1.3


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