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    Brothers,

    Yesterday I went to Filter house who are the keeper of import oils also (:: Filters House Solve your All Filteration Problems Lahore Pakistan ::)
    Filter House has opened its 5th outlet in Lahore right on the Ferozepur road in front of Qaddafi Stadium and right adjacent to Hamid Latif Hospital & Taj Mahel Banquet Hall.


    Presently the oil 5/40 (which I am already using in my Passo and repeatedly accepting in my all posts that its very good oil) is gaining the popularity in the Pak. market.
    This oil is neither as thinner like ZIC A+ 5/20, nor very thick like 15/40 or 20/50.
    This is most perfect oil for Pak. and every company has introduced the same and its getting popular by hot cakes. Almost every company has introduced this oil 5/40 and I am happy that I was the first one who used it and my try was super satisfactory.

    Rates are as follows

    Liqui Moly 5/40 Synthetic Rs. 5500/4L
    10~12K Mileage for big engines (2000CC or above) but only 7~8K Mileage for 1000~1300CC engines.

    Mobil1 5/40 Synthetic Rs. 4800/4L
    10K Mileage for big engines but only 6~7K Mileage for small engines.

    Volvoline 5/40 Synthetic Rs. 4600/4L
    10K for big engines but only 6~7K for small engines.

    PTT Performa 0/40 Super Synthetic Rs. 3800/4L (Best oil according to my personal ranking)
    10~12K for big engines but only 6K for small engines.

    ZIC XQ 5/40 Synthetic Rs. 3600/4L
    10K for big engines but only 8K for small engines.

    KIXX 5/40 Synthetic Rs. 3550/4L (Actually this is not fully synthetic oil)
    10K for big engines but only 6~7K for small engines.

    KIXX 5/40 Semi Synthetic Tin Pack Rs. 3500/4L (Caltex got Kixx's distribution in Pak.)
    8K for big engines but only 5K for small engines.

    PTT Performa 5/40 Synthetic Rs. 3200/4L (this one is also semi synthetic, but very very good oil)
    8K for big engines but only 5~6K for small engines.

    ZIC OW 5/30 Semi Synthetic Rs. 2800/4L
    10K for big engines but only 6K for small engines.



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    Caltex has taken the distribution of Korean oil KIXX. Hence Caltex will import KIXX oil but will pack them by themselves here and will print "Made in Korea". Means again un-certain condition about the Quality.

    But presently in order to beat Toyota's Tin pack oils, Caltex has imported KIXX's Tin pack oil with some new given name technology and trying to sell it.

    Mobil1 is being distributed by MAL, printing on bottles as "Made in USA & packed in Singapore". But very high doubts. Because its being re-pack here in Pakistan by MAL.

    Liqui MOLY, still trying to find out that either its being directly imported from Germany or some local agency has its distribution/re-packing. Am still working on it.
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    ​Can Age of car be a factor for Oil....If so what sort of oil should be used for old cars...and one more thing mostly people or Mechanic say used the same oil whether its winter or Summer....so is it right or can we change it to like 5 to 40w...please explain...thanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shahid1987 View Post
    ​Can Age of car be a factor for Oil....If so what sort of oil should be used for old cars...and one more thing mostly people or Mechanic say used the same oil whether its winter or Summer....so is it right or can we change it to like 5 to 40w...please explain...thanks...
    yes. Age does matter for sure.
    The oil requirements for new and.older engines are different. We have to choose wisely according to the age, condition and health of an engine.

    Mechanics are usually uneducated part of our society. They just know havoline and nothing else. They dont know what is the difference between mineral oil, synthetic, semi synthetic or partially sunthetic. Their performance, functionalities, durance, etc. They just advise to feed havoline from donky pump to airplane.

    If the oil.change is.due, then better to change when winter sets in. It help engine for easy start most of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodMan7 View Post
    2sz-fe is 1300cc engine same like gli.
    Suggestions goes to 5w oil. And if not using havoline before, then even 0w oil will work excellent too. Now depending.upon your pocket you can choose

    LM 5/40. Change after 10k and both filters after 5k.

    Ptt performa 0/40 super synthetic. Interval same as above.

    Ptt performa 5/40 fully synthetic, interval 8k but change filters after 4k.

    Zic xq 5/40 fully synthetic. Change after 10k and both filters after 5k.

    Kixx PAO 5/40 fully synthetic. Change after 8k and both filters after 5k.

    LM 0/30 (if can find this oil, then go for it).
    Change after 12k and both filters after 6k.

    LM 0/40 (if can find this oil, then go for it).
    Change after 12k and both filters after 6k.


    VERY V. IMPORTANT: which gear oil you are using.? It has to be CVT for sure. Hope you must not be using any local company gear oil, these will not bring good. While cvt oil's performance is really outstanding and long lasting and fuel saving and smooth like silk.
    Thnx, currently I am using Havoline Synthetic (golden bottle). CVT oil was changed when Import this car. Toyota Genuine CVT oil (tin packing, Imported) was used. And yes CVT is better than AT transmission, in my view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by civic7 View Post
    Thnx, currently I am using Havoline Synthetic (golden bottle). CVT oil was changed when Import this car. Toyota Genuine CVT oil (tin packing, Imported) was used. And yes CVT is better than AT transmission, in my view.

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    i am using the same cvt gear oil for my non-cvt passo (2008 model) and performance is really outclass.
    Many people suggested here to change it as it will ruin the transmission, but i kept using it and now satisfaction level is as high as it could be.
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    you are using cvt fluid in a shifting transmission?

    the CVT fluid is devoid of any friction modifiers for wet clutches which are required in later toyota boxes which are specced for Toyota T-IV (JWS3309) or Toyota WS (low viscosity HFM ATF)

    Your box may seem like its working - but quite soon the torque converter lockup clutch will start to shudder and produce noise like a deep humming rumble - thats called chatter. Driving like that will end the life at half interval - you then can rebuild the trans or sell the car as "jenyan" as everyone else in Pakistan does.

    You wont be the first to do this - many people around the world have used generic DX ATF in place of JWS3309 and have faced a rebuild bill later - For info sake - price out a NEW torque converter for your car - its price is amusing.

    In transmissions that dont have partial lockup torque converter function the CVT fluid works but results in strong shift as the clutches bite immediately rather than smoothly. The dexron rated fluids provide a smoother shift - they were blended to do so.

    You might as well use plain hydraulic oil in the gearbox - it will work - (you might think its awesome too) but instead of the transmission working a life of 320,000 kms it might be well under 140,000 when a rebuild is required.

    I rebuilt several dozen of such gearboxes in Pakistan where owners used the piece of crap warco branded type A ATF in their automatics specced for dexron 2 or higher. The results were flaked clutches, worn drums, flaked brake bands, jiggly bearings and general havoc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    you are using cvt fluid in a shifting transmission?

    the CVT fluid is devoid of any friction modifiers for wet clutches which are required in later toyota boxes which are specced for Toyota T-IV (JWS3309) or Toyota WS (low viscosity HFM ATF)

    Your box may seem like its working - but quite soon the torque converter lockup clutch will start to shudder and produce noise like a deep humming rumble - thats called chatter. Driving like that will end the life at half interval - you then can rebuild the trans or sell the car as "jenyan" as everyone else in Pakistan does.

    You wont be the first to do this - many people around the world have used generic DX ATF in place of JWS3309 and have faced a rebuild bill later - For info sake - price out a NEW torque converter for your car - its price is amusing.

    In transmissions that dont have partial lockup torque converter function the CVT fluid works but results in strong shift as the clutches bite immediately rather than smoothly. The dexron rated fluids provide a smoother shift - they were blended to do so.

    You might as well use plain hydraulic oil in the gearbox - it will work - (you might think its awesome too) but instead of the transmission working a life of 320,000 kms it might be well under 140,000 when a rebuild is required.

    I rebuilt several dozen of such gearboxes in Pakistan where owners used the piece of crap warco branded type A ATF in their automatics specced for dexron 2 or higher. The results were flaked clutches, worn drums, flaked brake bands, jiggly bearings and general havoc.
    toyota poured t-iv and said its good. But during automatically shift gears, i can feel a bit little jerk with noise. But since i am using this cvt fluid, the problem solved and during driving its hardly known that car is shifting gears or not. Moreover i got 1km/l additional mileage. This is i obsereved keenly. Same story i Have previously mentioned in my older posts too.
    In less than 1 year time, i have driven 12k yet and everything seems as fine as silk.
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    The transmission is self learning, it will automatically tune itself to shift correctly which is a bit mild on every shift. The clutch material is not compatible with CVT fluid as it sheds a lot of graphite as normal usage, that is why toyota T-IV turns black in a few thousand kms.

    Its your car and your money and if you are happy to be obtuse go ahead. keep on driving it like that.

    If your transmission is shifting so smooth that you cannot feel it shift - your clutches are heating up due to excess slip (this was one of the reasons the highly friction modified ATF (JWS3309) was specced in the first place) for your car.

    As I said you wont be the first one. This act has been seen a no. of times.
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    @Xulfiqar bhai is there any automobile specialist you would suggest going to in lahore? someone you know who's knowledgeable and can be trusted

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    I am using ZIC A 10W40 oil for past few years in all of my cars ...but now i want to change the brand which is definately not a problem.....i just need one info...
    How may imported oils are being officially distributed in pakistan....and by officially i mean 100% officially like ZIC, Caltex, Shell and Total having official corporate offices in Pakistan....
    I am thinking of going for Liqui Moly. they have one website ~~: Liqui Moly Pakistan : ~~ but on their official wesite http://www.liqui-moly.de pakistan in not included in the list so i am assuming that pakistans website in made by someone importing LM to Pakistan and not having any link to the origional companay. Please shed light on this and clear my confusion...
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    Liqui Moly website is not authentic neither do Liqui Moly has an office in Pakistan but yes they do have authorized dealer in Pakistan who are based in Islamabad....Few days back I had email correspondence with Liqui Moly Germany and they confirmed this to me.....So it is safe to buy from Liqui Moly dealer in Isb and lahore....

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    Quote Originally Posted by anc View Post
    Liqui Moly website is not authentic neither do Liqui Moly has an office in Pakistan but yes they do have authorized dealer in Pakistan who are based in Islamabad....Few days back I had email correspondence with Liqui Moly Germany and they confirmed this to me.....So it is safe to buy from Liqui Moly dealer in Isb and lahore....
    What about the one in Faisalabad o_O? And yes, LM Pakistan Website is fake.
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    I amnot sure if they are authorized dealers or not....you can call Liqui Moly dealer in Islamabad and inquire from them directly about faisalabad one....

    Shop no 20 Anique Arcade I-8 Markaz Islamabad ph; 051-4862502

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    most brands in Pakistan operate like a bulk shop being filled from Dubai. Its not a good situation.
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    Is this a good quality oil from Total?
    QUARTZ 9000 FUTURE 5W30 Quartz 9000 fully synthtic oil is suited to provide improved fuel economy, designed for fuel economy retention and improve engine oil robustness API SN GF5

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    Quote Originally Posted by faiz.aslam.121 View Post
    What about the one in Faisalabad o_O? And yes, LM Pakistan Website is fake.
    For mind's satisfaction, you should drive to Lahore and here we have LM's direct dealer. The contact details, pictures, etc. some gentleman already posted in the separate thread. Yes the website seems fake. But driving Lahore would be better. Last time I drove to Lahore-Faisalabad-Lahore just in 25L fuel in my passo. These days driving charm on motorway is very lovely too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodMan7 View Post
    For mind's satisfaction, you should drive to Lahore and here we have LM's direct dealer. The contact details, pictures, etc. some gentleman already posted in the separate thread. Yes the website seems fake. But driving Lahore would be better. Last time I drove to Lahore-Faisalabad-Lahore just in 25L fuel in my passo. These days driving charm on motorway is very lovely too.
    I hate driving on Motorway- makes me sleepy. Well driving to Islamabad is a different thing though.
    I think the one in Faisalabad is genuine... i am going there again next week for another bottle of 5w-40. @125rider, whatcha think?

    And i can do FSD-LHE-FSD in about 21 liters of fuel...maybe better if i keep speed under 100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faiz.aslam.121 View Post
    I hate driving on Motorway- makes me sleepy. Well driving to Islamabad is a different thing though.
    I think the one in Faisalabad is genuine... i am going there again next week for another bottle of 5w-40. @125rider, whatcha think?

    And i can do FSD-LHE-FSD in about 21 liters of fuel...maybe better if i keep speed under 100.
    May know your Car, covered mileage, already consuming oil and change intervals ?

    Tip for driving on the motorway: Eat very less when driving on motorway. Most of the time we feel sleep because our stomach is filled with lot of food & calories, and hence it gives sleeping feeling when driving on long routes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodMan7 View Post
    May know your Car, covered mileage, already consuming oil and change intervals ?

    Tip for driving on the motorway: Eat very less when driving on motorway. Most of the time we feel sleep because our stomach is filled with lot of food & calories, and hence it gives sleeping feeling when driving on long routes.
    Suzuki Swift, covered mileage till today 11,659km. Liqui Moly synthoil 5w-40, Genuine oil filter, Leepon air filter and tire pressure is 33 front 30 rear!

    And i do drive with a light-foot. I change gears at 2500 RPMs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by faiz.aslam.121 View Post
    Suzuki Swift, covered mileage till today 11,659km. Liqui Moly synthoil 5w-40, Genuine oil filter, Leepon air filter and tire pressure is 33 front 30 rear!

    And i do drive with a light-foot. I change gears at 2500 RPMs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bk7690 View Post
    @Xulfiqar bhai is there any automobile specialist you would suggest going to in lahore? someone you know who's knowledgeable and can be trusted
    i also have great wish to meet the same person who have sound knowledge about car engines. But i think zulfiqar is from karachi and chances for him are less to advise such person to contact in lahore while he is in usa since ~3 years.
    Nevertheless, i will keep watching the replies particularly about it.
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