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    Default - FORMULA 1 Season 2007 - (RAIKONNEN WINS)

    There is considerable time left in the start of the season but there are a lot of news coming through. So, just like last time we had a single thread about F1 2006 season I am starting this thread for the 2007 Season. This will allow all of us to discuss things at one place.

    My request to all the F1 fans, please post F1 2007 related stuff here.
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    ^^ ya and still again if u take the stats MS won more races than the cry baby(alonso)....
    A fan is a fan like UncleKracker but please....
    before criticiseing look who r u talking to for the guy cries whether he wins or not and whenever he is outpaced by his ROOKIE teammate....
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    say all u wanttttt ferrari fans...the bottom line is mclarens are leading in both the constructor n drivers championship...anything 2nd will always be considered a loser...say watever u want to console ur depressed state of mind u knoe it v.well ur soo called fav team has let u down.
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    @ sub7er
    when was the last time mclaren won a championship
    there was news in the press mclarens were being charged for
    having confidential Ferrari documents.......
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    Ferrari boss merciless as spy hearing starts


    Montezemolo wants disloyal behaviour exposed

    26/07/07 13:28


    Luca di Montezemolo on Thursday made it abundantly clear whose side he is on as McLaren faced the FIA's World Motor Sport Council on spy charges.

    As the emergency meeting kicked off this morning, the Ferrari President was quoted as saying by La Gazzetta dello Sport: "My body is in Maranello but my thoughts are in Paris."

    "We absolutely must expose disloyal behaviour in Formula One.
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    McLaren Chairman Ron Dennis, unfamiliarly dressed in a tailored suit, was swamped by reporters and cameramen as he arrived at Place de la Concorde, as was his Ferrari counterpart Jean Todt a few moments later.

    Bernie Ecclestone and FIA President Max Mosley soon followed.

    An outcome is expected on Thursday afternoon.

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    Breaking News:

    McLaren Mercedes escape penalty
    Insufficient evidence for the WMSC
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    F1's governing body on Thursday announced that McLaren will not be penalised following a meeting of the World Motor Sport Council in Paris.

    A statement, however, revealed that the 26 Council members did find Ron Dennis' outfit guilty of breaching the International Sporting Code for possessing confidential Ferrari information.

    'However, there is insufficient evidence that this information was used in such a way as to interfere improperly with the FIA Formula One World Championship,' it read.

    But the FIA also said McLaren face exclusion from the 2007 and 2008 championships if it is 'found in the future that the Ferrari information has been used' improperly.

    The statement also said alleged spies Nigel Stepney and Mike Coughlan will now be pursued by the FIA's legal department and could be banned from international motor sport for a lengthy period.

    A relieved McLaren Chairman Ron Dennis told AFP on leaving the hearing: "The punishment fits the crime."

    World Motor Sport Council – Statement
    An extraordinary meeting of the World Motor Sport Council was held in Paris on 26 July, 2007.
    The following decision was taken:

    “The WMSC is satisfied that Vodafone McLaren Mercedes was in possession of confidential Ferrari information and is therefore in breach of article 151c of the International Sporting Code. However, there is insufficient evidence that this information was used in such a way as to interfere improperly with the FIA Formula One World Championship. We therefore impose no penalty.

    “But if it is found in the future that the Ferrari information has been used to the detriment of the championship, we reserve the right to invite Vodafone McLaren Mercedes back in front of the WMSC where it will face the possibility of exclusion from not only the 2007 championship but also the 2008 championship.

    “The WMSC will also invite Mr Stepney and Mr Coughlan to show reason why they should not be banned from international motor sport for a lengthy period and the WMSC has delegated authority to deal with this matter to the legal department of the FIA.”

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    @kizzi...sirjeee plzzz read ma last post again...MCLARENS r leading the points table...the news regarding mclarens possesing confidential ferrari data is again a baseless attack on mclaren...ferrari just cant handle the truthh that mclarens r beating them fair n square.
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    AIK TO CHOREE UPAR SE SEENA ZORI. LOL

    It is proved that Mclaren had Ferrari's documents in their possession. But what is still to be proven with the help of more evidence that Mclaren had used that information for their advantage. Which ofcourse they have. So, dont be too happy too early.
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    Mclaren may face a two year ban, if it is proved that they had used the information for their advantage. They certainly have done so. From an insane car in 2006 to Ferrari matching reliability in 2007, wow, from zero to hero. Something is fishy.
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    @ kizzi thanx
    @ sub7er
    Sir if u follow F1 u should know that its not over just yet.... they are leading but u know luck is on their side and the contribution from their rookie driver....
    Last season it was alsmost known tht MS will b champ but 1 blown engine did the damage..
    ofcourse its ferrari tech. McLaren just had their 9th life this time man.
    and for @sub7er we all know that they are leading with the ferrari tech remember that.
    I wouldnt like to see mclaren disqualified, then there will b no fun in beating em..
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    its so funny to read they use ferrari tech, their name should be 'Vodafone Mclaren Mercedes Ferrari' LOLzzzz
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    Ferrari reacts to WMSC findings
    To continue legal action through the courts
    26/07/07 18:40

    'Today’s decision legitimises dishonest behaviour'


    The following is a statement from Ferrari in which the team comment on the findings of the World Motor Sport Council with regard to McLaren Mercedes.

    Based on today’s decision of the FIA World Council:

    The Vodafone McLaren Mercedes team has been found to be in breach of article 151c of the F1 Sporting Regulations and to have therefore behaved in “a fraudulent manner and therefore in a manner prejudicial to the interests of competition or motor sport in general,”
    The World Council has nevertheless decided that, in the absence of any definite proof that information that is the property of Ferrari has been effectively used on the Vodafone McLaren Mercedes car competing in the current championship, it can impose no sanction without further evidence.

    Ferrari notes that Vodafone McLaren Mercedes has been found guilty by the FIA World Council.

    It therefore finds it incomprehensible that violating the fundamental principle of sporting honesty does not have, as a logical and inevitable consequence, the application of a sanction. Today’s decision legitimises dishonest behaviour in Formula 1 and sets a very serious precedent.

    In fact, the decision of the World Council signifies that possession, knowledge at the very highest level and use of highly confidential information acquired in an illicit manner and the acquiring of confidential information over the course of several months, represent violations that do not carry any punishment. The fact that Vodafone McLaren Mercedes was in possession of such information was discovered totally by accident and, but for this, the team would continue to have it. This is all the more serious as it has occurred in a sport like Formula 1 in which small details make all the difference.

    Ferrari feels this is highly prejudicial to the credibility of the sport. It will continue with the legal action already under way within the Italian criminal justice system and in the civil court in England.

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    they can't run away so easily..
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    @comtrak

    "its so funny to read they use ferrari tech, their name should be 'Vodafone Mclaren Mercedes Ferrari' LOLzzzz"

    LMAO.. as in Spyker Ferrari?
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    ^^ yep
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    @sub7er

    did u just said "Fair and square" :O
    dear read the news first and then reconsider ur statement.

    LOL @ "Fair n Square"
    Almost everyone in Pakistan is doing corruption to the extent they can. Our leaders are doing at the level they can do. So why should we complain?

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    when i read unclekrackers post i wanted to write a counter unclekraker post ........... (dont want people to run away of this thread)
    but now i see members are taking interest in this thread and thats what ive always wanted an active f1 thread on pakwheels

    so as long as we dont get personal and hurt each others feelings all goes good

    in-fact ive seen another thread going on covering motogp.
    when i have time i will speak to JAG to have a separate section for motor-sports fans
    where we can have threads race by race..........
    if you people have any suggestion put them here!


    I know sub7er in person he is a very good friend of mine.some time back i asked him to join pakwheels but nawab sahib would always tell me its a waste of time ....now he has been bitten by the pakwheels bug ....
    one day in class i was bored, sub7er was sitting beside me i was drawing a picture of a ferrari .. he looked in my register and said "tum zaroor us (K*@%#$#^%$$$&TAY) Schumacher kay fan hongay) i started laughing.... ever since we have argued on ferarri vs mclaren... Supremacy
    we have watched alot of races together ....
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    we have a special ritual after every race
    if Ferrari wins i call him and put my phones reciever near my tv set when the Italian anthem is being played
    while sub7er does the opposite for mclaren

    my point is have fun but dont create a hostile attitude towards any member


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    ^^ rightly said.

    Infact, I had read your reply to UncleKracher.

    I too was forced to give a reply in a tone that matches his. But I also thought that all should be done in a friendly manner.
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    @ kizzi

    thanx its been really long time since i posted here on PW n specially on F1 forum. i'm lovin the season n missing schumi
    Almost everyone in Pakistan is doing corruption to the extent they can. Our leaders are doing at the level they can do. So why should we complain?

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    @kizzi

    yeh ur right...but the problem is that these guys should have been the investigators at the World Motor Sport Council because they haven’t found anything incorporated from the ferrari doc's in mclaren's cars....but these guys have found it while they r in karachi... how amazing!!.

    this is just die hard ferrari fanship nothing else...
    I distrust those people who know so well what god wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires...

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    @ nightsurfer
    lol
    i completely nderstand your feelings i would have done the same

    cannot talk much about last weeks race did not get to see it was to tired ....


    @ m11
    whose that in you avatar


    i respect your point of view
    i completely understand that no one can control what individual do...
    but take this for an example
    if an employee does a fraud in a bank .... the investigators will firsts interrogate the manager as to why wasnt there a proper check on that employee...
    i hope you get my point


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