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    Default - FORMULA 1 Season 2007 - (RAIKONNEN WINS)

    There is considerable time left in the start of the season but there are a lot of news coming through. So, just like last time we had a single thread about F1 2006 season I am starting this thread for the 2007 Season. This will allow all of us to discuss things at one place.

    My request to all the F1 fans, please post F1 2007 related stuff here.
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    =====================================Mclaren Unhappy
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    McLaren were naturally unhappy with today's announcement from FIA President Max Moseley that he would be appealing FIA's decision to exonerate McLaren who were accused of spying on Ferrari. The following statement is from McLaren...

    "Following a thoroughly misleading press campaign by Ferrari and pressure from the Automobile Club D’ Italia, the FIA has asked the FIA International Court of Appeal to consider the unanimous decision made by the World Motor Sport Council on 26th July 2007.

    "Having considered in great detail the full submissions of both Ferrari and McLaren, the World Motorsport Council determined that there was no evidence that any information, passed by a Ferrari team member to a McLaren employee, had been brought into the organisation or provided any benefit whatsoever to the McLaren programme.


    "McLaren is not aware of any new information or arguments that have arisen since the meeting of the World Motor Sport Council and therefore assumes that these same materials will now be considered by the FIA International Court of Appeal. Whilst this is both disappointing and time-consuming, McLaren is confident that the FIA International Court of Appeal will also exonerate McLaren and we will in the meanwhile continue to focus on our current World Championship programme."

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    McLaren hits back at FerrariThursday, 02, August, 2007, 00:59


    McLaren has accused Ferrari of spreading false and misleading information about its role in the spy saga so as to tarnish its reputation and destabilise its world championship challenge.

    In addition, the British team has responded to its Italian rival’s allegations that it has cheated by claiming that Ferrari won the season-opening Australian Grand Prix with an illegal car.

    Stung by recent statements from Ferrari and the Italian motorsport federation, and dismayed by the FIA’s decision to refer the espionage case to its Court of Appeal, McLaren published a detailed monologue on Wednesday evening intended to “set the record straight”.

    The letter, written by Ron Dennis and addressed to the president of the Italian motorsport authority Luigi Macaluso, presents McLaren’s version of events in public for the first time.

    Dennis reveals that his team was made aware of technical irregularities with Ferrari’s cars in March after Ferrari’s high-ranking employee Nigel Stepney tipped off McLaren’s chief designer Mike Coughlan.

    But he insists that this disclosure constituted “whistle-blowing” and was in no way connected to the 780-page dossier containing secret Ferrari information later found at Coughlan’s house – of which McLaren says it had no knowledge until July 3.

    The information Stepney furnished in March concerned two contentious aspects of the Ferrari F2007: its rear wing separator and a floor attachment mechanism.

    As a result McLaren requested a clarification of the rules from the FIA, which subsequently introduced more stringent bodywork regulations that forced Ferrari to redesign its floor.

    “As far as we are aware, Ferrari ran their cars with this illegal device at the Australian Grand Prix, which they won,” Dennis writes.

    “Ferrari only withdrew the floor device after it was confirmed to be illegal by the FIA.

    “Were it not for Mr Stepney drawing this illegal device to the attention of McLaren, and McLaren drawing it to the attention of the FIA, there is every reason to suppose that Ferrari would have continued to race with an illegal car.”

    Despite defending Stepney’s “whistle-blowing”, Dennis says McLaren was concerned that he might be harbouring a grudge against Ferrari and therefore instructed Coughlan to avoid further contact with him.

    Coughlan was given the go-ahead to meet Stepney on April 28 – outside of working hours – after he convinced his superiors that it was the only way to stop Stepney from continuing to air his grievances about Ferrari.

    Dennis says McLaren believed that this meeting had settled the matter and knew of no more conversations between the two men until July 3.

    He categorically refutes the allegation that any other McLaren employees knew that Coughlan had been given confidential Ferrari data by Stepney, and insists Coughlan kept this material at his house for ulterior motives.

    “I emphasise that these documents were found at Mr Coughlan’s home,” Dennis writes.

    “No Ferrari documents were found at McLaren’s offices.

    “Since Ferrari discovered that Mr Coughlan had the Ferrari documents at his home, it has gone to extraordinary lengths to try to maximise the damage to McLaren, no doubt hoping to gain some advantage for the world championship.

    “In particular, Ferrari has alleged, without any justification, that other McLaren staff were aware of what Mr Coughlan had done and that McLaren made some use of the documents.

    “Ferrari has no evidence whatsoever for these offensive and false allegations and presented no such evidence to the World Motor Sport Council.

    “The Council quite correctly rejected these allegations.”

    Dennis accuses Ferrari of deliberately blurring the distinction between the earlier “whistle-blowing” incident and Stepney and Coughlan’s subsequent collusion.

    “These [latter] events are quite separate from Mr Stepney’s whistle-blowing in March 2007, because during this period Mr Coughlan was acting secretly, in breach of his contract with McLaren, and for his own private purposes, quite conceivably as part of a scheme to leave McLaren and join another team together with Mr Stepney,” Dennis writes.

    “As regards Ferrari’s allegation that other McLaren staff were aware of what Mr Coughlan had done, in its statements to the press, Ferrari has tried to confuse the March 2007 whistle-blowing by Mr Stepney (which McLaren did know about) with the events on and following 28 April 2007 (which Mr Coughlan kept completely secret).

    “Let me make it clear: McLaren did know about the whistle-blowing matters in March 2007 – indeed it reported these matters to the FIA.

    “However that has nothing to do with what Mr Coughlan did on and after 28 April 2007.

    “McLaren management and staff had no knowledge whatsoever about that.”

    Dennis admits that two McLaren staff, including managing director Jonathan Neale, were shown single pieces of paper which Coughlan claims were taken from the Ferrari dossier – but denies that they either used them or had any idea of their provenance.

    “In short these instances did not alert Mr Taylor or Mr Neale that Mr Coughlan had taken possession of the Ferrari documents,” Dennis writes.

    “Neither they nor any other member of McLaren staff had any idea what Mr Coughlan had done.”

    Dennis is adamant that McLaren was not only unaware of Coughlan’s collusion with Stepney, but did not benefit inadvertently from the information he had gleaned.

    “Mr Coughlan himself is categoric that he made no use of the Ferrari documents in the McLaren car,” Dennis writes.

    “Mr Coughlan’s job related to the management of drawing production by the design staff and their sign off prior to issue to our production facilities.

    “He did not have responsibility for the performance enhancement of the car.”

    Dennis says McLaren conducted “a very thorough physical and electronic search” which established that “none of the Ferrari documents were at McLaren as opposed to at Mr Coughlan’s home, and that there is no possibility that any of the information in those documents could have been used on any development on the McLaren car.

    “At the hearing, McLaren demonstrated clearly to the satisfaction of the World Motor Sport Council that no use whatsoever has been made of any of the contents of the Ferrari documents in the McLaren car.

    “Accordingly, Ferrari’s continued allegations in the press that McLaren has made use of the Ferrari Documents are entirely false.”

    Finally, Dennis disputes Ferrari’s claim that it was not given a proper opportunity to put its case, pointing to a memorandum circulated to the WMSC (and leaked to the Italian press) and several interventions during the hearing itself.

    “Ferrari fully participated in the hearing before the Council,” Dennis contends.

    “I therefore simply do not understand what basis there is for Ferrari’s claim that it was denied an opportunity to put its case.

    “It put its case both in writing and orally.”

    In his closing remarks Dennis accuses Ferrari of dragging the sport through the mud through “grossly misleading statements” about McLaren’s actions.

    “The reason McLaren was not penalised is that the World Motor Sport Council rightly concluded that it should not be blamed for Mr Coughlan’s actions,” he writes.

    “It based its decision on solid facts and not false innuendo.

    “McLaren’s reputation has been unfairly sullied by incorrect press reports from Italy and grossly misleading statements from Ferrari.

    “This is a fantastic world championship and it would be a tragedy if one of the best world championships in years was derailed by the acts of one Ferrari and one McLaren employee acting for their own purposes wholly unconnected with Ferrari or McLaren.

    “We believe that the Ferrari press releases, the leaks to the Italian press and recent events have been damaging to Formula 1 as well as McLaren.

    “The world championship should be contested on the track not in courts or in the press.

    “We will naturally present our case before the FIA Court of Appeal as we strongly believe McLaren has done nothing wrong.

    “It is our belief that justice will prevail and that McLaren will not be penalised.”
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    No abusive language please [Mod Edit]
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    soo wat do u guys have to say abt this..dont u just feel ashamed of urselves..lol aheem u knoe whom im talking abt..lol
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    First of all try not to use such language, I don't want this thread to be deleted.

    Now coming to Mr. Dennis's letter. OK if this was whistle blowing and not any illegal or unethical thing then why did Mr. Dennis fire Mike Coughan? I mean, he only worked with Nigel Stepney to attract FIA's attention to the Ferrari team, as Ron himself says that this "Whistle blowing" should be encouraged. Again, why was Coughan fired?
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    maybe coughan was an inside man for ferrari...all these yrs he was lettin mclaren down...n ferrari maybe had em lined up for a situation like now when they knew it was inevitable that mclarens are unbeatable soo the only way ferrari cud sabotage mclarens championshp chances wud be thru loser tactics like these...n since u knoe mclaren ant a cheat team like the red scarlet they fired em the very moment they found out that something was fishy going on...now the whole truth is slowly revealing n ferrari will soon be screwd for its lack of sportsmanship....lol
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    @nS ...sorrie got a lil too xcited earlier..ma apologise didnt mean to offend neone!
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    consipiracy theories banane me hamare bhai dair nai kerte
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    kia kareh redbull bhai kabhee garoor nahee kiaa..lol..i mean jab hamera ferrari fans apne taraf sehh mclaren koo mclaren mercedes ferrari keh sakteh hein tuu dont u think i have the rite to have a say..hmm where were u when all these ppl were making up stories abt mclaren having stolen this n that from ferrari...!
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    ===============
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    Luigi Macaluso responds to Ron Dennis


    Leaving the answers to the court of appeal…
    02/08/07 22:37


    McLaren Team Principal and CEO Ron Dennis yesterday wrote a lengthy letter to Italian motorsport boss Luigi Macaluso. The President of ACI-CSAI this evening responded. A transcript of his letter is reproduced below.

    Mr Ron Dennis...
    [Address]

    2 August 2007

    Dear Mr Dennis,

    Article 151c of the International Sporting Code

    I refer to your letter of 1 August 2007.

    It is apparent from your letter that there is a distinct difference between McLaren’s view of events and that of Ferrari. It therefore seems appropriate for the matter to be reviewed by the International Court of Appeal as decided by the FIA President, Mr. Mosley.

    It is not my role nor would it be appropriate for me to answer your various points. It will be for the Court of Appeal to do so.

    In any event, I would limit myself to stress that McLaren was found in breach of Article 151c of the International Sporting Code, but nevertheless escaped any penalty. As Mr Mosley indicated in his letter of 31 July 2007, it is important for the World Championship that the correct outcome is reached.
    It is clearly in the interest of the sport that the appropriate precedent for dealing with events such as these is set.

    At the hearing of the World Motor Sport Council on 26 July 2007, Ferrari was legally represented but attended the meeting merely as an observer. It accordingly did not have sufficient opportunity to present to the Council or ask questions of key individuals involved in this matter in order to test their evidence. A hearing before the International Court of Appeal will allow Ferrari an opportunity to present its evidence and arguments in detail.

    Yours sincerely

    Luigi Macaluso
    The President of ACI-CSAI

    CC/ Mr. Max Mosley (President FIA)
    Mr. Jean Todt ( CEO Ferrari SpA)
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    @sub7er

    No offence taken.

    B.T.W where are all the other fans? Any news from @kizzi?
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    Kimi Pics here post ur's also

    https://www.pakwheels.com/forumreply_az_TopicID!53010~ForumID!1~pw.html
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    @ns...kizzi is a lil busy with uni & the repairin of his car..u knoe he had this accident few weeks bak, his car was sorta totalled from da boot! nehow he will surely be back on da weekened for the race!
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    Yeah, bad happened that morning. He organized the whole event perfectly but it ruined it in the morning. I hope his car gets back to tip top condition soon.
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    2007 Hungarian GP - Hungaroring - Friday First Free Practice Session
    Pos Driver Nat Team Laps Time Gap To 1st
    1. Robert Kubica PL BMW 25 1:22.390
    2. Felipe Massa BR Ferrari 18 1:22.519 0.129 0.129
    3. Kimi Räikkönen FIN Ferrari 21 1:22.540 0.021 0.150
    4. Fernando Alonso E McLaren-Mercedes 18 1:22.585 0.045 0.195
    5. Lewis Hamilton GB McLaren-Mercedes 19 1:22.654 0.069 0.264
    6. Nick Heidfeld D BMW 24 1:22.891 0.237 0.501
    7. Nico Rosberg D Williams-Toyota 19 1:22.983 0.092 0.593
    8. Jenson Button GB Honda 20 1:23.294 0.311 0.904
    9. Rubens Barrichello BR Honda 20 1:23.601 0.307 1.211
    10. Ralf Schumacher D Toyota 27 1:23.802 0.201 1.412
    11. Anthony Davidson GB Super Aguri-Honda 13 1:24.102 0.300 1.712
    12. Jarno Trulli I Toyota 30 1:24.318 0.216 1.928
    13. Alexander Wurz A Williams-Toyota 12 1:24.321 0.003 1.931
    14. David Coulthard GB Red Bull-Renault 17 1:24.474 0.153 2.084
    15. Heikki Kovalainen FIN Renault 18 1:24.733 0.259 2.343
    16. Sebastian Vettel D Toro Rosso-Ferrari 26 1:24.905 0.172 2.515
    17. Giancarlo Fisichella I Renault 19 1:24.920 0.015 2.530
    18. Vitantonio Liuzzi I Toro Rosso-Ferrari 20 1:24.976 0.056 2.586
    19. Takuma Sato J Super Aguri-Honda 13 1:25.307 0.331 2.917
    20. Mark Webber AUS Red Bull-Renault 14 1:25.584 0.277 3.194
    21. Adrian Sutil D Spyker-Ferrari 29 1:26.332 0.748 3.942
    22. Sakon Yamamoto J Spyker-Ferrari 30 1:28.118 1.786 5.728

    2007 Hungarian GP - Hungaroring - Friday Second Free Practice Session
    Pos Driver Nat Team Laps Time Gap To 1st
    1. Fernando Alonso E McLaren-Mercedes 29 1:20.919
    2. Heikki Kovalainen FIN Renault 39 1:21.283 0.364 0.364
    3. Lewis Hamilton GB McLaren-Mercedes 32 1:21.338 0.055 0.419
    4. Nico Rosberg D Williams-Toyota 40 1:21.485 0.147 0.566
    5. Nick Heidfeld D BMW 37 1:21.517 0.032 0.598
    6. Kimi Räikkönen FIN Ferrari 29 1:21.589 0.072 0.670
    7. Felipe Massa BR Ferrari 29 1:21.620 0.031 0.701
    8. Giancarlo Fisichella I Renault 36 1:21.698 0.078 0.779
    9. Jarno Trulli I Toyota 35 1:21.857 0.159 0.938
    10. Robert Kubica PL BMW 37 1:21.906 0.049 0.987
    11. Ralf Schumacher D Toyota 29 1:21.912 0.006 0.993
    12. Alexander Wurz A Williams-Toyota 35 1:21.987 0.075 1.068
    13. Mark Webber AUS Red Bull-Renault 28 1:22.325 0.338 1.406
    14. David Coulthard GB Red Bull-Renault 33 1:22.483 0.158 1.564
    15. Anthony Davidson GB Super Aguri-Honda 41 1:22.510 0.027 1.591
    16. Jenson Button GB Honda 47 1:22.550 0.040 1.631
    17. Takuma Sato J Super Aguri-Honda 42 1:22.556 0.006 1.637
    18. Rubens Barrichello BR Honda 29 1:22.727 0.171 1.808
    19. Vitantonio Liuzzi I Toro Rosso-Ferrari 42 1:23.136 0.409 2.217
    20. Sebastian Vettel D Toro Rosso-Ferrari 39 1:23.148 0.012 2.229
    21. Adrian Sutil D Spyker-Ferrari 34 1:23.673 0.525 2.754
    22. Sakon Yamamoto J Spyker-Ferrari 29 1:26.307 2.634 5.388
    Almost everyone in Pakistan is doing corruption to the extent they can. Our leaders are doing at the level they can do. So why should we complain?

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    i'll miss the qualifying tomorrow as i'll be busy somewhere else
    Almost everyone in Pakistan is doing corruption to the extent they can. Our leaders are doing at the level they can do. So why should we complain?

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    Dont worry mate. It will surely be repeated in the night. I am also worried about tomorrow as my cable guy has this insane habbit of replacing StarSports by StarCricket every now and then.
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    QUALIFYING

    04-Aug-07 17:27 Auto Racing 2007 FORMULA ONE QUALIFYING (AUTO RACING)
    HUNGARORING, HUNGARY Hungarian Grand Prix Qualifying 013


    05-Aug-07 02:30 Auto Racing 2007 FORMULA ONE QUALIFYING (AUTO RACING)
    HUNGARORING, HUNGARY Hungarian Grand Prix Qualifying 010

    05-Aug-07 050 Auto Racing 2007 FORMULA ONE QUALIFYING (AUTO RACING)
    HUNGARORING, HUNGARY Hungarian Grand Prix Qualifying 010

    RACE

    05-Aug-07 16:30 Auto Racing RACE DAY (AUTO RACING)
    Hungarian Grand Prix 010

    05-Aug-07 17:30 Auto Racing 2007 FORMULA ONE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP (AUTO RACING)
    HUNGARORING, HUNGARY Hungarian Grand Prix 01:30

    05-Aug-07 190 Auto Racing CHEQUERED FLAG (AUTO RACING) Hungarian Grand Prix 00:30


    06-Aug-07 03:30 Auto Racing RACE DAY (AUTO RACING)
    Hungarian Grand Prix 010

    06-Aug-07 04:30 Auto Racing 2007 FORMULA ONE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP (AUTO RACING)
    HUNGARORING, HUNGARY Hungarian Grand Prix 01:30

    06-Aug-07 060 Auto Racing CHEQUERED FLAG (AUTO RACING) Hungarian Grand Prix 00:30

    06-Aug-07 090 Auto Racing RACE DAY (AUTO RACING)
    Hungarian Grand Prix 010

    06-Aug-07 100 Auto Racing 2007 FORMULA ONE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP (AUTO RACING)
    HUNGARORING, HUNGARY Hungarian Grand Prix 01:30

    06-Aug-07 11:30 Auto Racing CHEQUERED FLAG (AUTO RACING) Hungarian Grand Prix 00:30
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