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    Default - FORMULA 1 Season 2007 - (RAIKONNEN WINS)

    There is considerable time left in the start of the season but there are a lot of news coming through. So, just like last time we had a single thread about F1 2006 season I am starting this thread for the 2007 Season. This will allow all of us to discuss things at one place.

    My request to all the F1 fans, please post F1 2007 related stuff here.
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    About Massa, that was really very sluggish stuff from Ferrari. They used to be the quickest to modify their strategies and they are famous for their pit performance. Stupid mistake. Anyway, tomorrow's race will be good to watch. Massa will be charging throughout.
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    yooohhooo! ferrari need to b working hard tomorow since the next few races will be the most decisive!
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    let see what will happen
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    Dennis: Hamilton triggered incident
    McLaren team boss Ron Dennis absolved Fernando Alonso of any blame in today's qualifying incident - and revealed it was actually Lewis Hamilton who triggered the pitstop hold-up.
    Speaking to reporters after qualifying in McLaren's traditional media briefing, Dennis began by explaining the events in today's session and how they unfolded.

    "We have various procedures within the team, and prior to practice we determine how it is going to be run, what our strategy is, and how that's going to be enacted on the circuit," Dennis said.

    "There are some procedural issues there on qualifying. One of the things that you'll have seen several times over the course of this season is long periods of time where the car has gone down to the end of pitlane and sat for a long time.
    "In this situation, we are timed to when we can dispatch the car based on when the car reaches a given temperature, and then we know how long we can hold it at the pitlane.

    "The cars are dispatched as soon as possible. In this instance, Lewis's car got up to that temperature first, so we sent Lewis, then we sent Fernando, and the fuel burn characteristics [mean that] there is a small advantage which we play from driver to driver according to the nature of the circuit.

    "In this instance, it was Fernando's time to get the advantage of the longer fuel burn. The arrangement was, OK, we're down at the end of the pitlane, we reverse positions in the first lap.

    "That didn't occur as arranged. That was somewhat disappointing and caused some tensions on the pitwall.

    "We were, from that moment on, out of sequence because the cars were in the wrong place on the circuit and that unfolded into the pitstops.

    "It complicated the situation into the result, which was Lewis not getting his final timed lap. So this really started from that position, and from our drivers not swapping position to get the right fuel burn in order to arrive at the point where we cut the end result to the end.

    "Now, as you have often asked the question, and let me make it a very honest answer: it is extremely difficult to deal with two such competitive drivers. There are definite pressures within the team. We make no secret of it.

    "They are both very competitive, and they both want to win, and we are trying our very hardest to balance those pressures. Today we were part of a process where it didn't work, and the end result is more pressure on the team.

    "But what you hear is the exact truth of what happened, and we will manage it inside the team through the balance of the season.

    "Obviously Lewis feels more uncomfortable with the situation than Fernando. That's life, that's the way it is, and if he feels too hot to talk about it then that's the way it is.

    "But what I've done is, I have given you an exact understanding of what took place today. And it's just pressure, competitiveness, and that's the way it is. We've just got to get on and deal with it, but we're not hiding from it.

    "We're sat on the front row of the most difficult Grand Prix to win as regards to overtaking, and therefore we want to get on with the race."

    Dennis turned to Alonso, who was sat next to him, and asked "Have I explained it accurately?" to which Alonso signalled the thumbs-up.

    Explaining further the situation with Hamilton, Dennis said: "They were out of sequence because Lewis should have slowed and let Fernando past. And he didn't. He charged off. That's how we got out of sequence.

    Asked why, then did Alonso sit ahead of Hamilton in the pit box for some ten seconds, Dennis replied: "He's under the control of his engineer. He determined when he goes. That's the sequence. And if you think that was a deliberate thing, then you can think what you want. I have given you exactly what happened."

    Dennis would not reveal what transpired between himself and Hamilton over the radio as the session ended, but said: "I was quite firm on the radio, and he was reasonably firm back. We were both firm with each other. But that's life.

    "You're looking, understandably, for a sound-bite, a headline. But I am giving you what happened, clearly. I have told you, precisely, the truth.

    "What happened, ultimately, and the consequences of what happened, cost one of our drivers the opportunity of having another lap to get on pole position. That's a fact. He (Hamilton) is not going to be happy about it. But that's what happened. Don't make it more than what it is. We try to run these things tight, and we got it wrong."

    Despite that, Dennis admitted he took Alonso's physiotherapist with him to parc ferme because he feared both drivers would need to be calmed down.

    "I took Fabrizio with me because I am only one person," Dennis said. "I didn't know what level of temperature the drivers were going to be when they came out of the cars, and I wanted Fabrizio to keep Fernando calm, and I was keeping Lewis calm.

    "What we didn't want is things said in the heat of the moment that we would subsequently regret. We were both trying to calm both drivers down.

    "Listen, as upset as both of the drivers were, they didn't say things that increased the pressure. They didn't increase the pressure, and basically, we tried to calm it all down.

    "That's what we tried to do. It was as simple as that."

    Asked about his reaction at the end of the session, when he was seen slamming his headphones on the pitwall, Dennis explained that despite the all-McLaren front row result, he was frustrated by the errors made through the session.

    "OK, we are first and second, but we didn't do what we should have done as a team," Dennis said. "It wasn't the clean operation that I would have liked it to be, because it didn't unfold the way we meant it to unfold. It's as simple as that.

    Dennis had to leave the media briefing, as he was called to the stewards' office, as they review the incident and decide if any penalties should be applied.

    On his return, the McLaren chief summed up the pitstop hold-up: "When the engineer is controlling when the car goes out he has a GPS system.

    "Every car is shown on the GPS system. It is standard procedure because you don't want to send your car out in traffic. He's looking at the GPS and he's looking at the gap.

    "There's 15 seconds to the gap. So you hold the car, the gap is coming round, so you do a countdown: 15, 14, 13 and so on. The gap determines when the car is released. That's why you see the car stationary because the countdown is going on to the gap.

    "The lollipop was out of sequence, and it was definitely not right. The lollipop man is basically looking at the car behind him and the engineer is watching the GPS system. We didn't do a good job.

    "This whole thing started from the beginning of practice with two competitive drivers. The stewards understand the situation, they want to listen to the tapes, and they will review everything we said."
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    As for Massa, unlikely he can charge through. This is not silverstone. The places he will make up are mostly at the start and in the pitstops. He might pass a couple of drivers` but its unlikely to be anything we saw at silverstone.
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    Why was Massa soo much off the pace? Could be mechanical problem?
    Seems like Ferrari can not get handle on their fuel strategy. Last race Kimi, this race Massa.
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    maclaren have done good in thier relibility issue

    but ferrari has taken there place now
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    maybe it is just bad luck of Kimi
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    I agree, it will be something extra-ordinary if Massa could repeat Silverstone.
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    Alonso demoted to sixth on grid

    Fernando Alonso has been demoted to sixth on the grid for the Hungarian Grand Prix after he was deemed to have impeded the chances of his McLaren team-mate Lewis Hamilton taking pole position.

    Alonso and the team's actions forced Hamilton to wait in the McLaren pit as the pair stacked up prior to their final qualifying runs.

    And while the world champion made it back on track in time to record his pole lap, Hamilton missed the cut despite dominating the session until that point.

    The 22-year-old was forced to settle for second, but will now start at the front of the grid.

    McLaren has also been informed that it will not be eligible to score constructors' points from Sunday's race from either car.

    Team principal Ron Dennis told reporters after qualifying that the mix-up began because Hamilton didn't follow team orders instructing him to allow Alonso past during the fuel-burning phase of Q3, thus throwing the McLarens out of sequence.

    Alonso also staunchly defended his position, arguing that he was simply following the instructions of his engineers.

    The FIA stewards requested radio transmissions from the team and interviewed both drivers and team personnel before coming to the decision some eight hours after qualifying ended.
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    McLaren stripped of potential points

    The stewards of the Hungarian Grand Prix have also penalised the McLaren team, saying the outfit will not be awarded any constructors points in tomorrow's race.

    This comes along with a five-place demotion for Fernando Alonso, who has lost his pole position and will start tomorrow's race in sixth place.

    The stewards said they did not accept the team's explanations nor Alonso's for the incident in today's qualifying, which saw the Spaniard hold up his teammate Lewis Hamilton, causing the Briton to lose the opportunity to run another flying lap.


    McLaren appeal stewards' decision

    McLaren have appealed the stewards decision to dock any constructors points they may score in tomorrow's Hungarian Grand Prix.

    The Woking-based outfit were penalised by the stewards after an incident in qualifying today saw Fernando Alonso hold up teammate Lewis Hamilton for several seconds, which cost the Briton a final flying lap.

    The stewards rejected the team's explanations for the hold-up and said they would not be able to score any constructors' championship points in tomorrow's race at Budapest.

    The stewards also relegated Alonso to sixth on the grid, although this penalty is not appealable under the Formula One regulations.

    McLaren will now race under appeal tomorrow, with the race results remaining provisional until a hearing is scheduled in the International Court of Appeal.



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    All set for Hamilton then. Now, the start will be more interesting. You have one Massa at 14th one Alonso at 6th. WOW! that would be awesome to watch. By the way, I am overjoyed by reading that Mclaren will lose all their points tomorrow. The whole 18 points that they would certainly have scored. YEAH!!!
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    I suspect Raikkonen is running quite heavy, If he can clear Heidfeld at the start it could become interesting `cause the option tyre is very marginal. It might all be decided on who makes the correct calls on tyres tomorrow. I think Hamilton is running light even compared to team mate Alonso.
    The results will all be provisional anyway.
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    Yeah, may be he is heavily fueled. He also did more laps than both Hamilton and Alonso during the last Qualifying session which suggest he bunred atleast two lap's more fuel than both the Mclaren guys.
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    GUESS:

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    Congrats to all Mclaren fans!!...
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    just look at the dirty tactics.
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    I think Alonso cheated.

    What happened to Fisichella ? I heard even his act was being investigated by stewards for holding up Yamamoto of Spyker Team. I also saw in the Last Corner a Red Bull slowed down too much thus Fischicella had to jump on the brakes and that compeletely ruined Yamamoto's Lap.

    Massa did not run out of fuel as his engine was still running but his drive was gone. They did not refuel him when they pushed him back into the pits. Ferrari this year is just not reliable. Period.
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    @supercars yes sir!! that is why he got penalized

    Look what is happening to mclaren(cheaters) now so funny..
    now no mclaren fan will show up
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    wait till u see the race alonso will be blazing pastttt everyone...hopefull we wud see good competition b.w hami n alonso.. im predicting an easy victory for mclarens unless kimi has something to do wid it..dayem f1 stewards depriving mclaren of the 18 points..nehow mclaren will still remain ahead after today raceee soo it doesnt really matter!
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