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    Default - FORMULA 1 Season 2007 - (RAIKONNEN WINS)

    There is considerable time left in the start of the season but there are a lot of news coming through. So, just like last time we had a single thread about F1 2006 season I am starting this thread for the 2007 Season. This will allow all of us to discuss things at one place.

    My request to all the F1 fans, please post F1 2007 related stuff here.
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    MCLAREN SUX...a bunch of cheats...FERRARI RULZ!...long live the spirit of micheal schumacher
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    If ever i have seen a case of " The Pot Calling The Kettle Black " this has to be the best example.

    A nice race at Monza for once. Usually it`s a one stop race and it`s decided in the pits. Hardly ever see anyone passing on track. Don`t know if Kimi was asleep or if his neck was bothering him so much or whether the ferrari drivers have problems seeing in their mirrors as has been suggested because of their position.

    Massa`a title hopes are over, even the mathematical ones he had. Ferrai have to back Raikkonen now for whatever little chance he has.
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    Hamilton: spy saga could ruin title hopes

    McLaren's championship leader Lewis Hamilton recognised on Sunday that a spying controversy could destroy his Formula One title hopes.

    The governing International Automobile Federation (FIA) meets in Paris on Thursday to hear new evidence in a long-running saga over leaked Ferrari technical information that ended up at McLaren.

    If found guilty of using the information to their advantage, something that was not proven at a first hearing in July, McLaren could be kicked out of this and next year's championship.

    "If you sit down and think about it, I could have what I've worked for and what all the team have worked for, we could have it taken away from us," Hamilton told Britain's ITV television at the Italian Grand Prix.

    "And when you really think about that, you think 'Wow' I could be out of a job next weekend and then what happens?

    "It was just going so well and then you just get this big knife that cuts off your blood line," continued the 22-year-old British rookie, who leads double world champion teammate Fernando Alonso by three points.

    While McLaren savoured their first one-two at Monza, Ferrari's home track, the hearing on Thursday hung heavily over the race.

    McLaren started the day with a statement suggesting that the Italian authorities had deliberately tried to disrupt their preparations for the race by notifying senior team members before qualifying on Saturday that they were under legal investigation.

    Hamilton, who finished second behind Alonso after both started on the front row, had total confidence in his team but his love of the sport had been tested.

    "I never actually thought I'd be sitting here saying I hate something about Formula One, but the politics and people wanting to be bigger than others is just incredible," he said.

    "I would say to you all that (team boss) Ron (Dennis) has always been very, very loyal to me, he has always given me the opportunity and he has always been such a great man to me. I have never had any reasons to not believe him.

    "He is going through a time right now where I think some people are trying to bring him down and right now the best thing for me is to give him support," added Hamilton, who has been supported by McLaren and Dennis for the past decade.

    The Briton also told a post-race news conference just how much winning the title would mean to him.

    "It probably means quite a lot more than it would to any other driver because it's my rookie year and I definitely didn't expect to be challenging for the world championship or leading it," he said.

    "It would be great for us to win the constructors' championship and the drivers' championship just to show that, even with all those issues and problems, nothing can bring us down and that we are unstoppable."
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    @foosa...whooo ..whose michaeil schumacher?
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    I have been a but busy for the last few days, so I couldn't post during the race. Mclaren were just superior here at Monza this week and if it goes like this they will be the 2007 champions. I feel sorry for Massa who was first cheated at the first corner and then he had to retire.

    Despite being a Ferrari fan, my moment of the race was when Hamilton overtook Kimi Raikkonen at the first corner, that was just brutal.

    Mclaren team have got a fantastic car to finish it off. Bravo.
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    schumacher who ? ahh i think you are talking the person mentioned in James Allen`s new book. The guy who got very famous for his parking ability at Monaco
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    JRASCASSEGATE REVISITED
    ames Allen's recently released biography, Michael Schumacher: The Edge of Greatness, dissects the career of Formula 1's most successful exponent and reappraises the man behind the tabloid stereotype.

    One of the defining images of Schumacher's career, which highlighted the flawed nature of his genius, was of course the 'parking incident' at Monaco's Rascasse corner during his final season.

    The following excerpt from the book captures the drama of that seismic afternoon and sheds new light on the reaction of Schumacher's rivals – including an extraordinary declaration of intent from Fernando Alonso...

    The game is up: only Rascasse corner to go, no chance to make up that amount of time. He’s desperate now. Pole position is vital at Monaco and Fernando Alonso’s going to take it from him.
    Michael Schumacher knows how symbolic this is, the younger driver pushing the older one out, just as he had tried to do to Ayrton Senna 12 years earlier.

    Not only that, but Mark Webber, Kimi Raikkonen and Giancarlo Fisichella are also threatening his position – he could end up on the second or third row of the grid.

    Instinct takes over.

    The brakes lock up, blue smoke swirls outwards from the tyres. He turns into the right-hand Rascasse corner oddly, the car skews left and slows, there is a pause, then very gently the car hiccups forward into a stall. The nose stops a few feet from the barriers.

    No contact is made, but the marshals are on to it immediately, waving yellow flags to slow the following cars, among them Alonso’s, as they approach Rascasse.

    The drivers have no alternative but to back off. Alonso’s lap is ruined, so are Webber’s, Fisichella’s and Raikkonen’s. The qualifying session ends.

    Schumacher’s time is fastest. He has pole position, but what price will he pay for winning at all costs?

    * * *

    In the Monaco pit lane, Alonso’s boss at the Renault team, Flavio Briatore, is raging, seeking out every television crew he can find to cry foul.

    “It’s a disgrace,” he thunders. “He is taking everyone for a ride. Someone who is a seven-times world champion wants us to believe that he didn’t do it on purpose? It’s fairyland. It was unsporting and against everything.”

    Briatore is not finding too many people who disagree with him.

    With the storm brewing over Schumacher’s actions, the press conference would prove to be a must-see event.

    In the car taking the drivers to the television interview were Schumacher, Alonso and Webber.

    Recalls Webber: “I didn’t think too much about it at the time when I came into Rascasse and saw the car blocking the track. I just pitted, lap done.

    “I was in the weighing area and Michael said to me, ‘I can’t believe I’m still on pole’ and he was whooping it up and celebrating with Sabine Kehm, his assistant. He was really excited.

    “I started to think, ‘That’s odd, it’s not a great way to get pole, after all.’ It wasn’t all adding up for me.

    “We got in the car, Michael, Fernando and I. Fernando was totally pissed off, Michael was happy, putting on this face. The atmosphere was frosty. No one said anything.

    “When we arrived, as Michael sprang out of the car and ran up the stairs, Fernando said to me, ‘He stopped on the track deliberately, you know?’ and I said, ‘Fair enough, mate.’

    “I hadn’t seen anything on video at this point, but I was thinking that it was bit odd how this was shaping up.”

    * * *

    The interview started and the first question got straight to the point: “Michael, what happened at Rascasse?”

    “I locked up the front wheel and went wide,” answered Schumacher, his face open and untroubled.

    Beside him sat Alonso, who maintained a quiet dignity throughout the next half hour or so but whose face wore an unmistakeable mask of darkness and anger.

    On the other side of Schumacher was Webber.

    Michael continued: “I wasn’t sure what was going on after this because of the positioning of the cars and so on, so I was not aware and in the end I checked with the guys what the situation was, where did we end up, because I didn’t expect to be sitting here right now in this position and they said P1, so I was glad considering what had happened.”

    This was not the polished English Schumacher was used to delivering at such moments. His mind was clearly running through a lot of conflicting ideas and thoughts at the same time. He lost his fluency.

    He knew all too well what people would be thinking.

    Only he knew whether he had parked his car deliberately in the middle of the road to stop Alonso from beating him, but if he had done, he was not about to admit it or to apologise.

    That is not Schumacher’s way.

    Did the engine stall, he was asked? “No, initially not and I tried to engage reverse but it didn’t engage and I didn’t really want to back up just by myself without knowing what was coming and finally it stalled.

    “I need to check why the engine stalled because there was no reason why it should stall, but I think that after a certain time if the engine is running like that, it switches itself off. I guess that is what happened.”

    The three drivers then moved to the main media centre for the general press conference. Before them sat 150 journalists.

    Schumacher had been in this position countless times in his career, but he never felt comfortable, as he later reflected: “The game with the media was very difficult for me.

    “A half-hour press conference stretched me more than a whole race. That’s just not my world. I’m not much of an actor and everyone’s always trying to read things into you. I cannot produce emotions on the touch of a button, I don’t want to.”

    And this time he appeared less comfortable than usual.

    The first bullet was fired, albeit gently, by Anne Giuntini, the tiny Frenchwoman who has covered F1 for the prestigious French daily sports paper L’Equipe for many years.

    In 1996 she had conducted a long interview with Schumacher in which he had opened up more than in practically any other interview he has done.

    “I have talked to some drivers who say it is too big, what happened today, to be credible, maybe a bit of a shame if it is true,” she said.

    Schumacher looked slightly taken aback, but maintained his calm. “It would be a shame if it is true, absolutely, but I think it is as usual what you do in certain moments. Your enemies believe one thing and the people who support you believe another thing and that is what our sport is all about.”

    “It is not a question of friends or enemies, it is a question of sport,” replied Giuntini coldly.

    “I explained to you what really happened and if you want to believe this you believe and some people may not believe this but unfortunately this is the world we live in.”

    Schumacher was then asked straight out if he had cheated. His face hardened.

    “No, and I don’t know why you ask such a bad question. I think it is pretty tough. If you were to drive around here at Monaco you would probably not ask this question.”

    Sitting alongside him, Webber noticed a sudden change in Schumacher’s demeanour.

    “Michael’s left hand was shaking,” he said. “He wasn’t comfortable at all. At that point you just knew that the glazed face had come over him. He was putting on a show from then on, he looked across at Sabine a few times.

    “He was in the hot seat. When it’s all under control it’s slick, but when a few cracks come in then it can go badly wrong with him, then it’s not convincing at all.”

    Alonso spoke little during the press conference. He was asked at one point if he thought less of Schumacher because of what had happened.

    “I have my opinion and I won’t say it here,” was the curt reply.

    * * *

    There was no shortage of ‘names’ around the paddock on that Saturday in Monaco, willing to give their opinions.

    Most vocal of all was Keke Rosberg, the 1982 world champion, whose son Nico was in his first season of F1. Rosberg was from the flamboyant era of the sport, not in the same league as Schumacher as a driver, but a colourful embodiment of the free spirit which leads men to race cars.

    “Does he think we are all fools and idiots?” he fumed.

    “It was the cheapest, dirtiest thing I have ever seen in Formula 1. He should leave Formula 1 and go home. I hope he is man enough now to get out of the Grand Prix Drivers’ Association and never mention safety again in his life. He’s a cheap cheat.”

    Sir Jackie Stewart, three times a world champion, was more worldly in his appraisal: “It was a very agile mind management job. But it was too blatant. It reflects on him and Ferrari,” he said.

    * * *

    That night Mark Webber was having dinner with his father and girlfriend in the hotel when Alonso approached their table.

    “What are we going to do if Michael doesn’t get a penalty?” asked the Spaniard.

    “He’s got to, mate,” replied Webber. “Looking at the footage, it’s ridiculous, they have to do something.”

    Alonso wasn’t so sure.

    “I want to lie down in front of his car,” said Alonso sternly. “I’m going to pull up on the grid, get out of my car and lie in front of his.”

    Knowing Alonso, he would have done exactly that. He felt that he was not just racing against another driver in another team. Like many of the drivers, he felt, rightly or wrongly, that the way the sport appeared to look after Ferrari made the playing field uneven.

    It was this same feeling which led Alonso to declare at Monza later that year, “I no longer consider F1 to be a sport,” after Ferrari made a protest against him for blocking their driver, Felipe Massa, during qualifying and the stewards gave him a 10-place grid penalty.

    But on this occasion in Monaco Alonso’s fears turned out to be unfounded.
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    Enjoy the video :-)

    How to park while in Monaco by michael schumacher.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCJt9lGmxFM
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    FIA: McLaren have queried Renault

    The FIA has confirmed that it has been approached by McLaren with questions about rivals Renault, just days before the World Motor Sport Council hearing into Formula One's spy saga.

    There has been mounting speculation since the Italian Grand Prix that part of McLaren's defence arguments in Thursday's hearing will revolve around the fact that if they are punished then rival teams like Renault should be as well.

    Sources have also suggested to autosport.com that other teams may also have been mentioned as well as Renault, although this has not been confirmed.

    The exact nature of McLaren's query about Renault is not known, but there are rumours it is focused around a technical element on the car rather than any specific involvement in the spy controversy.

    The FIA has now confirmed that McLaren's lawyers have indeed been in touch with them to discuss the Renault matter, but the sport's governing body has made it clear that it will have no relevance to the Paris hearing.

    An FIA spokesman told autosport.com: "We have noted the speculation and we can confirm that McLaren lawyers have recently brought to our attention certain matters regarding Renault F1.

    "But we can also confirm that the team (Renault) does not form any part of our investigations into McLaren's alleged breach of Article 151C of the International Sporting Code.

    "The FIA has reminded McLaren that the World Council hearing in Paris on Thursday will focus solely on the new evidence in that investigation.

    "To the extent required, any other matters will be dealt with as part of an entirely separate process. Renault F1 are aware of this and are happy to cooperate fully."

    Renault boss Flavio Briatore was quoted in the Italian media today as saying that he was confident they would not get dragged into the spy case on the back of the speculation about McLaren's complaints.

    "We told the FIA what we had, so there's no problem," he told Gazzetta dello Sport. "I don't know what Dennis refers to, he's throwing stones a bit everywhere. We are calm, no problem at all."

    The FIA hearing in Paris will hear new evidence in the McLaren case, believed to revolve around an email exchange between Fernando Alonso and Pedro de la Rosa, with rivals Ferrari also expected to present their own submissions about the matter.

    McLaren have been advised on legal grounds not to comment about the case before the hearing
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    Analysis: McLaren on a rollercoaster ride
    Ron Dennis likened his Italian Grand Prix weekend to a "difficult, emotional rollercoaster" and even as he said it, the McLaren boss knew that the stomach-churning ride was far from over.

    Among many twists and turns, another vertiginous drop awaits at a hearing of Formula One's governing body in Paris on Thursday.

    The meeting of the International Automobile Federation World Motor Sport Council, the FIA's top sporting body, will consider new evidence against McLaren in a long-running spying controversy with Ferrari.

    If found to have benefited from a dossier of Ferrari technical information seized from the home of their suspended chief designer Mike Coughlan, McLaren could be kicked out of this and next year's championship.

    The elation of the Mercedes-powered team's one-two at Monza, their first in Ferrari's backyard, could turn to despair.

    Even if that worst case scenario does not happen, there are many who suspect that the championship leaders will be stripped of some or all of their constructors' points.

    What happens to the drivers, with 22-year-old British rookie Lewis Hamilton leading Spanish double world champion teammate Fernando Alonso by just three points in the standings with four races to go, is another burning question.

    The irony for Dennis, a self-made multi-millionaire who started out as a mechanic with Cooper-Maserati in 1966, is that all this is happening just when there should be so much to celebrate.

    After failing to win a race last year, McLaren have taken seven of the 13 Grands Prix to date and have two great drivers jousting in one of the most thrilling championships in years.

    Dennis, caught wiping away tears as well as champagne in a rare show of emotion after Sunday's win, has seen the integrity of his team questioned as they spiral from crisis to crisis. His own future at the helm has been called into doubt.

    First there was the deteriorating relationship between Hamilton and Alonso, who had hoped to be number one but instead found himself upstaged by the novice.

    Then there was the debacle of Hungary, with the team stripped of 15 constructors' points after Alonso impeded Hamilton in qualifying.

    Last weekend there was a $50,000 fine for the use in Hungary of a gearbox that had not passed a crash test and the appearance of Italian magistrates in the paddock to notify senior McLaren management that they were under investigation.

    McLaren cannot claim they have not made mistakes. Even if Coughlan was acting as a rogue element for his own benefit, there is no denying that he had 780 pages of highly confidential Ferrari information.

    What is in question is how deep that went into the team, despite McLaren's assurances that none was incorporated into their cars.

    The personalities of key players, and historic rivalries and animosity, add another twist to the drama.

    It is no secret that FIA President Max Mosley, whose easy aristocratic charm masks a steely determination, and fellow-Briton Dennis do not come high on each other's Christmas card lists.

    "Many Formula One insiders believe that the issues surrounding the stolen Ferrari technical data are emblematic of the strained personal relationship between Dennis and Max Mosley," was how experienced commentator Alan Henry put it in the Guardian newspaper on Tuesday.

    Dennis was asked at Monza whether he felt McLaren were being victimised. The 60-year-old avoided the question, careful not to lend credence to any suggestion of a vendetta. He made clear also that he would not be forced into retirement.

    In the past, paddock wags have suggested that FIA stands for 'Ferrari International Assistance' and triple champion and former team owner Jackie Stewart alluded to that perceived influence.

    "The FIA have historically been very close to Ferrari and closer to them than anyone else," he told Reuters.

    "It seems that some of the most powerful people in this sport are more aligned to Ferrari than anybody else."

    Rival team owner Frank Williams was more circumspect: "I won't use the word witch-hunt, but there is enormous tenacity to find out what happened," he said of the governing body's handling of the enquiry.

    An FIA spokesman said such comments were to be expected but referred back to the evidence.

    "This enquiry was triggered by a letter of complaint from Ferrari which was, in turn, triggered by the extraordinary discovery of 780 pages of their most confidential technical information in the hands of McLaren's chief designer," he said.

    "Under the circumstances, the suggestion that the FIA's ongoing investigation is about anything other than the pursuit of sporting fairness demonstrates a blinding refusal to accept the basic facts.
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    WINDSOR'S WISDOM
    Peter Windsor has been at the centre of the F1 paddock for 30 years, during which time he has been a journalist, commentator and Williams team manager. He is currently Grand Prix editor of F1 Racing magazine.

    Will the spy saga blow over, or will it do lasting damage to Formula 1 (the way doping scandals have tarnished cycling, for example)?

    I hate to sit on the fence but I really think you can see this from two sides.

    On the one hand, scandals like this do not sit well in corporate board rooms; certain blue-chip sponsors may thus re-think their F1 involvement.

    And, as Sir Jackie Stewart pointed out in Monza, the very up-front nature of the F1 teams – their glitzy motorhomes, their glitzy people – make it very difficult to hide the dirty washing.

    The linen has always been dirty in F1…it’s just that not too many people ever got to see it. Until now. It’s a bit like JFK vs Bill Clinton: Clinton was the one who was caught.

    On the other hand, F1 as an industry does not have a Public Relations department (in the way, for example, that the NASCAR has a PR department).

    There’s a reason for this – and it is that the F1 power-brokers feel that any publicity is good publicity and that the teams are the source of everything public, good or bad.

    Historically, this policy has worked: drivers die and TV ratings improve. Scandals break…and people are talking.

    This policy may not pacify the blue-chip companies but the seedier sponsors are not complaining at all.


    After winning his second world championship with Renault, Fernando Alonso said that three titles would be enough for him. Do you think he might walk away from F1 at the end of the season if he achieves that target?

    I think he could do a Niki Lauda – he could take a year off and then return with another team.

    However, I’d like to see the question that preceded Fernando saying that three world titles is enough.

    This doesn’t ring true to me as a pro-active statement formulated purely by Fernando. He’s too young and too competitive to say something like that.


    Kimi Raikkonen’s Monza crash was attributed to his losing control over a bump, and yet no one else crashed at that point in either the test or the race weekend. Did that surprise you?

    Yes it did – and I still wonder about the whole thing.

    I wonder how Kimi could have known instantly that he had locked an inside rear due to an unfortunate braking/downshift moment. How could he know that? He was travelling at about 180 mph at the time…

    I was standing by Felipe’s car at the time and I can tell you that no checks were made to his car before they sent him out again. I thought this was strange.

    We have to remember that the new Roggia chicane kerbs had been installed that morning.

    I think the most telling thing was Kimi’s TV interview after the race. When asked why he had been avoiding the kerbs at the second chicane, he said: “We didn’t know what happened to Felipe’s car so we decided not to take any risks…”

    Makes you wonder whether those kerbs had something to do with Kimi’s problem on Saturday.


    It’s becoming clear that McLaren has the car to beat. How has the team (a) achieved such a dramatic turnaround on its 2006 form, and (b) turned the tables on Ferrari since Barcelona?

    In reply, I can only suggest that you refer to various editions of F1 Racing last winter, when we predicted categorically that Ferrari would go into decline in 2007 and that McLaren would win the world championship.

    In the post-Newey era, team players like Neil Oatley and Patrick Lowe were always going to harness the best of everything at McLaren and eliminate the waste; Fernando Alonso was always going to give the team a new direction; and Lewis Hamilton – again as predicted – was always going to win races in his maiden season.

    What did people think?

    Did they honestly think that Kimi Raikkonen was going to jump into Michael’s car and win a World Championship?

    Did they think that Felipe Massa had learned nothing from Michael?

    Did they think that all the good people from the Michael era were going to stick around and continue to do exactly the same job?

    Did they think that Renault, with Giancarlo Fisichella as their “spearhead”, were going to be as competitive as they were with Fernando?

    As I said a few weeks ago, Ferrari have lost a lot of aero testing time over the past couple of months.

    My Italian contacts also tell me that there has been – and still is - a “wholesale departure of white-collar aero guys” from Maranello.

    Ferrari will always win races in the course of any season. Michael [Schumacher] showed them how to win championships.

    Now he has gone – and the system is slowly changing as a result. What does that tell you?

    Ferrari are big enough to regroup and recruit, of course… but it won’t be the same.


    How good is Sebastian Vettel, and are we going to see a tug-of-love for the young German’s services between BMW and Red Bull?

    Very, very good.

    Anyone who saw him through the Suzuka esses last year (when he drove on Friday for BMW Sauber) would have to put him up there in Robert Kubica territory.

    He has great feel for gentle-firm and for keeping the car “flat”.

    As for his future, I hope he just sticks around at BMW.

    He is young enough to await his turn. Red Bull have done nothing to convince me that they know to get the best from young drivers.
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    LATEST: McLaren hit with point deductions


    Thursday September 13, 2007
    Singapore (espnstar.com) - The 'spygate' saga comes to a conclusion with McLaren losing all their points in the constructor's standings and fined USD 100million for their troubles. Their drivers will keep their points.


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    McLaren loses all constructors' points

    The FIA World Motor Sport Council has disqualified McLaren from the 2007 constructors' championship and fined the team $100 million, but Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso can continue to battle for the drivers' crown.

    After a day of deliberations at the hearing in Paris, the governing body decided to punish the team for breaking the sporting regulations by possessing confidential Ferrari data.

    But while the decision to exclude McLaren from the constructors' contest hands that title to Ferrari, McLaren's drivers have not received any penalty.

    Hamilton and Alonso's battle for the world championship will therefore continue unaffected in the remaining four rounds.

    The team's $100 million fine is the largest in motorsport history.

    McLaren will also have to present its 2008 car for examination by the FIA before the start of next season.

    The team is due to address the media in Paris within the next hour.
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    sad to hear about mclaren it was such a great team

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    McLaren loses all constructors' points

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    The FIA World Motor Sport Council has disqualified McLaren from the 2007 constructors' championship and imposed the largest fine in motorsport history – but Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso can continue to vie for the drivers' crown.


    After nine hours of deliberations at the hearing in Paris, the 26-member World Council panel decided to punish the Woking-based team for breaking the sporting regulations through possessing confidential Ferrari data.


    But while the decision to exclude McLaren from the constructors' contest hands that title to Ferrari, McLaren's drivers have escaped a penalty.


    Hamilton and Alonso's battle for the world championship will therefore continue unaffected in the remaining four rounds.


    The fine of $100m (£49.2 million) will be offset against the television income the team would have earned had it been eligible for constructors' points, but is nevertheless unprecedented in its scale.


    “The WMSC has stripped Vodafone McLaren Mercedes of all constructor points in the 2007 FIA Formula One World Championship and the team can score no points for the remainder of the season," the FIA said in a statement.


    “Furthermore, the team will pay a fine equal to $100m, less the FOM income lost as a result of the points deduction.


    “However, due to the exceptional circumstances in which the FIA gave the team’s drivers an immunity in return for providing evidence, there is no penalty in regard to drivers’ points."


    McLaren will also have to present its 2008 car for examination by the FIA before the start of next season.


    “The WMSC will receive a full technical report on the 2008 McLaren car and will take a decision at its December 2007 meeting as to what sanction, if any, will be imposed on the team for the 2008 season,” read the statement.


    The FIA added that no McLaren representatives will be allowed on the podium should one of its drivers win any of the season's remaining races.


    And it said the full reasons for the verdict will be issued tomorrow (Friday).
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    McLaren defer decision over appeal

    McLaren will decide over the weekend if to appeal the World Motor Sport Council decision today to strip the team of their constructors standing and fine them with $100 million USD.

    Speaking at a team press conference following the announcement of the WMSC decision, McLaren F1 CEO Martin Whitmarsh stated they will first study the reasoning behind the heavy penalty before making a decision on a possible appeal.

    The FIA said it will publish the WMSC's full decision tomorrow.

    "We believe we've got the grounds for an appeal," Whitmarsh said. "But of course we're going to wait for the findings of the FIA, which we believe are going to be published tomorrow, and we'll consider those carefully before we make that decision."

    Prior to that, McLaren chief Ron Dennis gave his statement to the press, emphasizing again his that his team did not use confidential information from Ferrari.

    "The most important thing is that we go motor racing this weekend, the rest of the season and every season," Dennis said. "This means that the drivers can continue to compete for the (drivers) world championship.

    "However, having been at the hearing today, I do not accept that we deserve to be penalised or our reputations damaged in this way.

    Today's evidence given to the FIA by our drivers, engineers and staff clearly demonstrated that we did not use any leaked information to gain a competitive advantage.

    "Much has been made in the press and in the hearing today of emails and text messages to and from our drivers.

    "The WMSC received statements from Fernando Alonso, Lewis Hamilton and Pedro de la Rosa stating categorically that no Ferrari information had been used by McLaren, and that they have not passed any confidential data to the team.

    "The entire engineering team, in excess of 140 people, provided statements to the FIA confirming that they had never received or used Ferrari information.

    "We have never denied that the information from Ferrari was in the personal possession of one of our employees, in his home. The issue is, was this information used by McLaren?

    "This is not the case and has not been proven today."

    Dennis reiterated that ex-Ferrari engineer Nigel Stepney and former McLaren chief designer Mike Coughlan - the two men at the heart of this spying saga - acted for selfish reasons and not with the intention of assisting McLaren.

    "We are also continually asked if McLaren didn't use the information, what was the reason for Stepney and Coughlan collecting all this data about Ferrari?" Dennis commented.

    "We can only speculate as neither Coughlan nor Stepney gave evidence at today's hearing, but we do know that they were both seeking employment with other teams, as already confirmed by both Honda and Toyota."

    Dennis also referred to the WMSC's decision to defer any decision on possible sanctions in 2008 after reviewing the team's car for next year.

    "There will be no issue for the 2008 season, as we have not at any stage used any intellectual property of any other team," Dennis stated.

    "We have got the best drivers and we have the best car, and we intend to win the world championship."
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    Mercedes 'shocked' by FIA verdict


    Mercedes motorsport head Norbert Haug has said the FIA decision to penalise McLaren has come as "an extreme shock" to the team.

    The British squad have been kicked out of the 2007 constructors' championship race and fined a record $100 million in the spying controversy involving leaked information from Ferrari.

    McLaren partners Mercedes voiced their surprise at the verdict and suggested they would appeal the verdict.

    "This judgment comes as an extreme shock for all team members and, as demonstrated by the reactions of large parts of the public, the media and Formula One viewers, is a shock for large segments of the public as well," said Haug.

    "We will now fight with all our resolve in order to give a proper response on the circuit, as we last did in Monza, and to get justice before the court."
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    Q & A with Dennis and Whitmarsh

    Q: Do you feel you're the only team in Formula One who deserve to be punished for this sort of incident?

    Martin Whitmarsh: "The starting point is, we do not believe that we should have been punished in this way. And I think today we should just concentrate on this situation, not what's happening to other teams."

    Q: Do you think FIA president Max Mosley's attitude has changed from the last World Motor Sport Council meeting (in July)?

    Ron Dennis: "I have no comment on that."

    Q: What was the new evidence submitted in today's hearing?

    Dennis: "The evidence today was primarily email traffic between our drivers. And in one instance - Mike Coughlan."

    Whitmarsh: "As we've said earlier, these were a few emails, and the drivers have stated categorically that no information was passed to the team."

    Dennis: "And of course the team had no knowledge of this email traffic at any stage."

    Q: How damaging financially is the punishment to McLaren?

    Dennis: "Firstly, effectively, we will still have as an offset the revenue from the points earned to date. That will effectively half the size of the cheque we have to sign, if we ultimately accept this fine.

    "But as you can see if you read our accounts, we turn over roughly $450-500 million USD a year, and we are debt-free, so obviously we are a very strong company with phenomenal growth.

    "I jokingly asked [Mercedes motorsport director] Norbert [Haug] if he was going to chip in half, but we haven't really come to a conclusion on that negotiation."

    Q: And does today's verdict make you consider your own future?

    Dennis: "My personal future was never in question as far as I was concerned. I'm very committed to this company, I'm very passionate about motor racing, and I have absolutely no intention of retiring.

    "I've made a firm commitment to Martin (Whitmarsh) to succeed me as CEO, and that decision - whenever it's taken - will not have any bearing on today's affair or any other issues this year."

    Q: How is this going to affect the future of your drivers?

    Dennis: "We have multi-year contracts with both of our drivers, and there has been no discussion about varying them.

    "We have two of the best drivers in the world, and our commitment to winning races is undiminished. That's what we exist to do - to win races.

    "And if there is any variation to those contracts, it will be by mutual agreements."

    Q: Do you have a feeling that the FIA has held double standards in this decision?

    Dennis: "I'm not going to make any comment as to the FIA's findings other than the fact that we are firmly of the opinion that we definitely do not concur with their findings.

    "But until we have all the details from the FIA, it is impossible for me to have a position on it.

    "They've issued [a statement about] the penalties but they haven't issued the actual findings, and it would be wholly inappropriate for me to make any comment until we have those findings."
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    @spiderman...yaa u said it man..its a black day@!...wtf did ferrari buy out the FIA motor sport council ? penalty is just too harsh!
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    y the hell hami and FA not penalised, if mclaren used ferrari data, in turn, thr drivers benefited from it, thr points should be reduced depending on how much ferrari data was actually used.

    allowing hami and FA carring points gained with illegal car, is unfair to all other drivers, including kimi and massa, who might be 1 2, if this had not happened.
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