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    Default - FORMULA 1 Season 2007 - (RAIKONNEN WINS)

    There is considerable time left in the start of the season but there are a lot of news coming through. So, just like last time we had a single thread about F1 2006 season I am starting this thread for the 2007 Season. This will allow all of us to discuss things at one place.

    My request to all the F1 fans, please post F1 2007 related stuff here.
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    Prodrive-McLaren negotiations collapse

    Prodrive's negotiations with McLaren-Mercedes for a partnership in next year's Formula One World Championship have collapsed, autosport.com has learned.

    Prodrive have been pursuing a deal with the Woking-based outfit for a supply of customer cars, and just a few weeks ago Prodrive boss David Richards said the only hurdle left to overcome in the negotiations is the new Concorde Agreement.

    However, sources have told autosport.com that McLaren F1 CEO Martin Whitmarsh notified his staff yesterday that the team are no longer pressing ahead with their plans for a partnership with Prodrive.

    Neither McLaren nor Prodrive would comment on the matter.

    It is not clear yet why the negotiations fell through. Nevertheless, it comes just days after the FIA announced Prodrive will face a Court of Appeal hearing later this month over their entry, following legal questions from rivals Williams.

    McLaren boss Ron Dennis said at last weekend's Chinese Grand Prix that the team had not signed a deal with Prodrive, and could not do so without complete clarity over their entry.

    "We have not entered into any contract with any team at this moment of time," he said. "If a team wishes to enter the 2008 World Championship and that team does not have complete clarity as to whether it is or is not permitted to enter then it is a matter for that team and certainly not for McLaren."

    As recently as the Belgian Grand Prix, Richards revealed that a deal for car and engines had been agreed - although he never named McLaren specifically.

    "We are there, but there are lots of issues surrounding the validity of the Concorde Agreement," Richards told autosport.com about the progress with his team.

    "It is those sorts of things that leave question marks at the moment, and they need to be resolved. Every other aspect of it is cleared up."

    Despite Whitmarsh's statement, Prodrive sources insist that they have not yet completely given up on reviving the McLaren deal.

    Should that not be possible, however, then Prodrive may still have opportunities elsewhere - with Renault having been favourites for a supply deal at one point.

    In an interview with the Times newspaper in August, Richards said that McLaren were one of three teams that Prodrive were speaking to at the time.
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    @UncleKracker
    I know it and its an obvoius thing in any sports team tries its best knowledge about the game but their are things that have to b consider some of them are mentioned here as
    1) Both the rival team have new drivers this season while mclaren have both drivers new to their setup this season and ferrari have one who have to under stand each other at different the tracks.
    2) All teams calculate there strategy on the basis of simulation none of the strategy have been design for the race on the given day its a long hard work of race engineers to design a race strategy.
    3) If you have seen all the races this season the commentators are saying that alonso and hamilton both are two different breed of drivers, alonso is near to the likes of kimi and hamilton to the likes of MS.
    I hope i have clear the point if not i will clear it in the future and no hard feelings.
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    Who are these commentators?
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    Commentators are Steve Slater and Chris Goodwin and two of the new makeshift commentators during the abscence of Chris Goodwin on StarSports and some commentators on the Supersports coverage during the race coverage.Well I think you don't understand the meaning what I said about Hamilton as MS and Alonso as Raikonnen is simple MS is one of the drivers who adopts the new circuit far more easily then anyother of his era just like him Hamilton is also good at new circuits in his first year of F1 career while Alonso and Kimi both are aggressive drivers but struggle on adopting new circuits. Alonso have to face his team politics as Ron Dennis clearly said at the end of Shanghai GP they are driving against the wrong driver during the race guess who is driver they racing against. Yes he was Alonso because they know Alonso is far more closer to the title then Kimi. Ron Dennis not want Alonso the next world Champion because he cause him the Constructor title.
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    hami == MS ROFLMAO
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    It means you have not see this seasons races seriously or you don't understand the comments make by the commentators during the race.
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    MS and FA has more similarities than hami.

    even JPM and JV were compared to arton senna because of thr aggressive style. thou i never watched senna.

    kimi was compared to mika.

    not hami, but everyone now copies MS pr-thingi.
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    i agree wid redbull on da fact that kimi driving style is pretty similar to mika hakkinen, but u cant compare alonso wid MS...they r 2 completely different drivers with different stye of driving, i'd still rate alonso as a superior driver then ms..i knoe it arguable..but hey didnt he prove that last yr..lol
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    @genius yess hami maybe like ms or tries to emulate him..but its too early to sayy...the answer to this question lies 2-3 yrs down road..
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    before going to anyrace drivers r on simulators for several hours
    so they are aware of the tracks twists and turns
    put jarno trulli in a Ferrari or Mclaren he will be as equally good as the top runners


    have been busy these days just saw the chinese gp today on super sports 6
    the title is going for a 3 way battle
    massa will be happy to help kimi coz he is out of the fite
    but the fact is both mclaren drivers will be fighting wid each other, mclaren will go to the brazillain gp wid more pressure then Ferrari


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    A1GP - Ferrari power for 2008
    A six-year engine supply deal concluded
    11/10/07 10:30


    In a short statement issued this morning from Maranello, Ferrari announced that it has concluded a 'technological collaboration' with the A1GP series to supply engines from next season. In addition, the Italian manufacturer will consult on he design and manufacture of next A1 chassis. Zytek Engineering currently build and service the 3.4 litre V8 engines.

    "Partnering with a world-class organisation like Ferrari will officially position A1GP one of the most significant motorsport series’ in the world," stated A1GP Chairman Tony Teixeira. "Ferrari will bring immense value to our brand and in our opinion there is no better partner to progress the series. We will be meeting with our commercial partners over the next few weeks to discuss the opportunities this partnership presents.
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    The partnership with Ferrari extends to an exclusive licensing agreement for all A1GP merchandise to use the Ferrari name and phrase ‘Powered by Ferrari’ from January 2008.

    Ferrari statement
    "Ferrari announces it has reached a technological collaboration agreement with the A1GP World Cup of Motorsport. The agreement covers the supply of engines and consultancy relating to the designing of the chassis for the cars that will compete in this series to 2014. The agreement will also be extended to a second series, the A2GP, for which testing will begin starting in 2009."

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    Alonso commits to Renault return in 2008
    Contract and exit strategy to be determined


    Fernando Alonso has signed a letter of intent to rejoin Renault starting next January (2008), according to emerging reports.

    Germany's Bild newspaper said the document is the precursor to a definitive three-year contract (2008-2010), but only if the reigning world champion can successfully negotiate an end to his current McLaren deal.

    Alonso is currently under contract to McLaren also for 2008, with an option to continue in 2009.

    The news of Alonso's likely return to Renault follows reports that Toyota was offering the Spaniard a record retainer to switch to the Japanese car giant for 2008.


    The German magazine Sport Bild said the Cologne based team was prepared to fork out (US) $150 million for a three year deal; a comparable amount of money to that earned by Michael Schumacher at Ferrari towards the end of his illustrious career.

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    JPM bangs into camera and collie? stopin him, funny vdo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFnnwdlerJM


    Montoya Schumacher Imola 2004 press conf.
    JPM calls MS blind and stupid

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOW-jngVoT4


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    BMW power, aaah

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    JMP vs MS
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    Juan Pablo Montoya have fun with BMW M5
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    yutube search yeilded these on top
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    @ns...interesting new abt alonso!
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    Guys do check out the A1 GP thread. Adam Khan is back and he is in the news!
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    Alonso, Hamilton, Raikkonen - who is destined for glory?

    For the first time in over 20 years, three drivers will fight it out for motorsport’s ultimate prize at the final round of the season this weekend. Lewis Hamilton is clear favourite, thanks to a four-point lead over McLaren team mate Fernando Alonso, but the odds rarely tell the whole story.

    After one of the most troubled title defences in living memory, Alonso will not give in without a struggle; and then there is Kimi Raikkonen, waiting to pounce, Ferrari very much at the top of their game.

    Lewis Hamilton

    Why he’ll win…
    He’s ahead: despite his error at the Shanghai pit entrance, consistency has been key to Hamilton’s campaign and his lead means he needs the fewest points from Brazil to take the crown. If he can finish immediately behind Alonso - even if the Ferraris are ahead - he will be champion.

    Pressure: in many ways he’s not really under any - if he wins he’s the first rookie champion; if he loses he’s still had the greatest rookie season in Formula One history - and, be it Alonso or Raikkonen, he will have lost to one of the most highly-rated drivers of the modern era.

    Team spirit: while no one - even Alonso - doubts McLaren will continue to treat their drivers equally in terms of equipment and strategy, Hamilton knows that most in the organisation would almost certainly prefer to see him to win the title - a pretty substantial weapon to have in your armoury, especially when your main rival is also your team mate!

    Why he won’t win…
    Inexperience: Alonso has won two world championships, Raikkonen has come close to winning two. For Hamilton, it’s virgin territory. Yes, he’s taken titles before, but never under the intense pressure and media scrutiny that accompanies Formula One. Indeed, could his China gaffe be the first sign that he is starting to crack? On top of that he has never raced at Interlagos.

    Pressure: in other ways, he is under intense pressure - pressure that has intensified immensely since his error in China. It is coming at him from all quarters, either directly or indirectly - from his rivals; his team; the media; himself; and, arguably most of all, from genuine Formula One fans around the world who, after a season seemingly dominated by off-track politicking, desperately want to see the Hamilton fairytale come true.
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    Fernando Alonso


    Why he’ll win…


    When the going gets tough: the media may have over-egged the situation, but there is no denying that Alonso is a pretty isolated figure at McLaren, and few in the paddock expect him to continue with the team next season. You might think such a situation would de-motivate a driver, but in Alonso’s case he almost seems to thrive on it. This time last year he was complaining that Renault were not giving him adequate support in his championship battle with Michael Schumacher, claiming he often felt ‘alone’ within the team. It didn’t stop him putting in devastating drives when they were most needed - notably his victory in Japan, which all but secured his second drivers’ title.

    Risky business: if Alonso really is convinced that McLaren are on Hamilton’s side he may decide he has nothing to lose in being ultra aggressive, both on the track in his driving, and off it with the mind games that inevitably accompany a title decider. If he can get under Hamilton’s skin and convince his team mate that he cannot afford to play things conservatively - which in reality he can to a degree - then he knows he is more likely to force him into another rookie error. In this respect, Alonso’s isolation within the team is almost an asset - it means he will remain an unknown quantity to Hamilton, who can never be sure quite what the double champion has hidden up his sleeve.

    Why he won’t win…

    He’s not leading: Alonso has never come from behind to win a championship. In 2005 he had a healthy margin over Raikkonen throughout the year and wrapped up the title with two rounds to spare. Things were closer last year - he was level with Michael Schumacher heading to the penultimate race - but he never actually dropped behind the German.

    He’s already lost: as McLaren have discovered, Alonso is a hard man to read. If he genuinely believes that Hamilton is destined for the title, could it be that he has already given up hope? Numerous comments attributed to the Spaniard in the press suggest he believes the title has already been decided off the track. The sign of a beaten man? Or perhaps just one trying to out-psyche his team mate?
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    Kimi Raikkonen


    Why he’ll win…

    Third time lucky: Raikkonen has been here before. He may not have won a title, but he’s been runner-up twice, in 2003 and 2005. In ‘03 he missed out by just two points, after pushing Michael Schumacher all the way to the wire. Such experience stands him in good stead - you can rely on Raikkonen to give it his all - and not to crack under pressure. On top of that he likes coming from behind - just look at his fearless fight through the field at Fuji recently.

    His team mate: with Felipe Massa out of the championship running, past form suggests Ferrari will do everything in their power to make sure his main role is a supporting one to Raikkonen’s charge for victory in Brazil. Definitely a luxury Alonso and Hamilton won’t be enjoying!

    Why he won’t win…

    Reliability: relative to McLaren, Ferrari’s has been pretty weak this season and just one more problem - in either qualifying or race - would put Raikkonen out of contention.

    He’s too far behind: he trails Hamilton by seven points and Alonso by three, which means not only does Raikkonen almost certainly need to win in Brazil - ideally with Massa second - he also needs some serious misfortune to come his rivals’ way. Even if he leads home a Ferrari one-two, with Alonso finishing third, Raikkonen would need Hamilton to come home no higher than sixth to steal the title.
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